MORE custody paper now needed after interview

[Heartland 0]

Thank you US Jordan Embassy....

My husbands interview went kinda bad. They required my step daughter there for the interview. She is almost three... what could have been gained by this? THey sat there six and a half hours... Her without a nap.

Then they needed custody papers from the court... and another police clearence which they changed their minds about...

SO we went the court and had papers made up....

AND WE WAITED>>>> and WAITED

Today I got an email stating they have tried and tried to contact my husband.. and we need a paper from his EX wife who abandoned them almost three years ago with my step daughter was only four months old to go back to her country. SHe isnt willing....she lives in malta and cannot go to court and get the paper as her daughter was born "out of wedlock" and doesnt exsist. I said I would pay for her to fly to Jordan and do the papers...

So we are faced with what to do next. I wrote the embassy stating the obvious...

He got a job offer in Saudi for 6000 rials. I dont think it is all that good... Plus I have two teens (girls)

The question is this... do they hate arabs that much that they put them thru such #######? or is it just normal paperwork? the woman I work with is from peru. She got here in four months without a problem...

ANY IDEAS

[aya*abouelnasr 0]

According to the AOL currency converter that is just shy of 16000.00 US dollars. Is this per year? Is the cost of living in SA dirt cheap? Is this going to be sufficient monies to support a household and five people? Just curious as I know nothing about SA.

[doodlebug 3]

I'm so sorry hon. I wish I could help but I don't have any experience in this. Was this a second interview or are you talking about the one in July that he had?

That's not much money at all but maybe Jess can chime in about the cost of living in Saudi once she feels better? $16,000/month or better yet per week would be great but per year, nuh uh. No way for five people if I had to guess.

[Jasman0717 9]

I am sorry things are a struggle right now. Keep your faith in God and pay attention to everything they ask. I wish you and your husband the best

[Donna A 4]

well wendy as u know hassan lived in saudi arabia for almost 10 years. his salary was about $1,600/month and they payed for his apartment. he had enough but he defiantly did not get rich by any means either. personally i dont believe he had too much left over because he got his phone shut off cuz he couldnt afford it. he says things were cheap there expecially gas but if they were so cheap why is he not rich? i dont know if a family of 5 could live there on $16,000/year. maybe but acording to hassan....saudi arabia is no place for a woman. he could hardly adapt their himself and he is from that kind of invironment (kinda) and he knew there was no way i could adapt being american.

as for this paper u need. u just need his ex to send a letter to him stating she gives full rights to your husband to take his daughter to america. she has all knowledge that he will be immigrating to the united states and has her permission to take her with him. just get it certified or whatever they do there in malta. she wont have to go to court in jordan for this matter and send it to him.

im sure she can do that much since she never had a relationship with her to begin with.

really i am dreading this part of the process as we will be going thru it in a couple years. his ex is not going to willingly give him a paper saying she gives custody to him and gives permission to take his daughter to the united states to live. even tho the woman have no rights after age 11 over there i dont see why they should have to sign them over.

Edited August 31, 2007 by donnaal

[*Maureen* 0]

Thank you US Jordan Embassy....

My husbands interview went kinda bad. They required my step daughter there for the interview. She is almost three... what could have been gained by this? THey sat there six and a half hours... Her without a nap.

Then they needed custody papers from the court... and another police clearence which they changed their minds about...

SO we went the court and had papers made up....

AND WE WAITED>>>> and WAITED

Today I got an email stating they have tried and tried to contact my husband.. and we need a paper from his EX wife who abandoned them almost three years ago with my step daughter was only four months old to go back to her country. SHe isnt willing....she lives in malta and cannot go to court and get the paper as her daughter was born "out of wedlock" and doesnt exsist. I said I would pay for her to fly to Jordan and do the papers...

So we are faced with what to do next. I wrote the embassy stating the obvious...

He got a job offer in Saudi for 6000 rials. I dont think it is all that good... Plus I have two teens (girls)

The question is this... do they hate arabs that much that they put them thru such #######? or is it just normal paperwork? the woman I work with is from peru. She got here in four months without a problem...

ANY IDEAS

What a pain! Can your husband get court papers on her behalf and mail them to her by certified mail return receipt and first class mail? and put a prepaid envelope for her to mail back papers. If she refuses to sign, the packet will come back to your husband showing REFUSED and he can show the embassy that she is not participating and at least that he is cooperating with the embassy. I just dont know what else to say to help matters.

Edited August 31, 2007 by 77Maureen

[AInfante-Saraireh 0]

Oh Wendy, so sorry to hear this. If there is a will, then there definitely is a way. I know there is a delay happening, and to a lot of us right now, but I do not think you will be happy in SA, nor your children. I'm hoping all straightens out quickly so that you two can be together finally in the USA.

Andrea

[lion_lioness 0]

HI Wendy,

I am so sorry this is dragging out like this. My BIL lives in Saudi and it would be really hard to live there, but if it were just you - maybe. However, to try and take your kids there they would hate it I'm sure. Maybe offer this woman compensation of some sort for her time?

I am sorry I don't have anything solid/legal to contribute, but I will be praying for you.

[bszoom42 0]

The question is this... do they hate arabs that much that they put them thru such #######? or is it just normal paperwork? the woman I work with is from peru. She got here in four months without a problem...

This probably isn't a consolation to you, but it feels like the embassies hate MENA & Asia people...

[Ta Ta 1]

Add Africans to that list . I am going through a 3 ring circus since the Dec. 06 interview.

[~Jess~ 0]

According to the AOL currency converter that is just shy of 16000.00 US dollars. Is this per year? Is the cost of living in SA dirt cheap? Is this going to be sufficient monies to support a household and five people? Just curious as I know nothing about SA.

6000 riyals is 1600 usd. the currency exhange is 3.75 riyals to 1 usd....i would assume that it would be monthly. that is george's salary. but we are just two people, though yes i send money, usually big amounts to daemian monthly, but i still have some savings and george has savings so we make it work. when we were in lebanon george was only making 400 usd a month and he made sure i was able to travel to the states whenever i told him i wanted to go, and we were sending money then too....but anyway........

the cost of living really is like the states, except gas is dirt cheap as is car repair and such. george's contract didnt come with arranged housing, nor a family iqama status, hence why im here on a family visit visa waiting to renew and then adjust........his bass salary was 5000 riyals a month but his boss gives him an extra 1000 riyals a mth for housing, george could have found an apartment for 12000 riyals a year (because most housing needs to be paid 6mth or 1yr in advance, as well as satillite service) but he liked the one we are in which is 18000 riyals a year, to have something we both like is worth the extra. he furnished the house with very nice stuff for 8000 riyals and that includes housewares, bedding, etc.

yes the living here is different, especially for a Christian family, but im here in a Muslim country, and i respect their way of life. when its prayer time we stay inside, and of course during ramadan we wont eat outside or anything during the day...obviously its like punishible by beatings and or death yikes..............

i really hope that you can come to a good conclusion for you and your family. and im sorry you are having such a hard time with uscis.

on a side note im still pretty sick, ill post in the daily thread about whats up.....without going into all detail.

[sarah and hicham 3]

I'm sorry to hear that you are having so much trouble.

I always think it's interesting that when something doesn't go perfectly they think that USCIS or the embassy hates the petitioner and the beneficiary. I honestly think that they are just trying to do their jobs and do what they think is right. It's not their fault that some cases are so complicated, ya know?

So I don't think they hate you or Arabs, I think that they are just trying to do what they are supposed to which unfortunately can inconvenience everyone at times.

[Caladan 19]

Embassies are always picky about paperwork for children because most kidnappers are parents making off with their children. Once the kid is across a border, they're very hard to find.

[sarah and hicham 3]

Embassies are always picky about paperwork for children because most kidnappers are parents making off with their children. Once the kid is across a border, they're very hard to find.

I think that them being so thorough is a good thing, and I think every single one of us would want the same thing for our kids if we were in that position.

[Heartland 0]

Hi all...

After writing two letters, explaining EVERYTHING.... It was accepted. Now we wait for more processing and the visa to be issued... Not sure how long but HOPE SOON

sarah: I think that them being so thorough is a good thing, and I think every single one of us would want the same thing for our kids if we were in that position.

Well Normally I would say yes to that... however. His ex wife had abandoned them both since thier daughter was 3.5 months old. I dont think this woman has any rights. She lives in another country. I think there comes a time when you have to LOOK at the situation and say, Each stituation is totally different. If the bio mom lived in the country and had SOME imput, that is different.... however this is not a case of a child being taken away from the mother, or kidnapped, this is giving a child a mother and sisters again...