I-134

[okspider 0]

Ok. My brother is my joint sponsor. I am unemployed as of late and I have a couple of questions.

1. What is needed for my supporting documents of the I-134? I made a little list myself and I know some things may or may not be needed. Can anyone tell me how accurate this is?

Tax Transcripts for the last 3 years

Most Recent Pay stubs

statement from officer of the bank with details regarding the account

statement from employer

This is the list i have compiled from various readings and the form itself. How accurate is this? Do I need more?

ALSO since I am unemployed and the Embassy in Copenhagen needs me to fill out the I-134 too what should I include?

Thanks SO much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[okspider 0]

anyone?

[okspider 0]

anyone?

Oh man someone has to know

[MM_MS 0]

Your list looks good. Double-check the VJ Guides and visit the DOS site to verify.

With respect to your brother as a co-sponsor, please forgive my proverbial raining on your parade. Below is information I did NOT receive after meeting with two different immigration attorneys. I learned this on VJ.

The I134 is a legalling binding document with the U.S. government which stipulates - many people miss this - that the petitioner/sponsor(s) will reimburse the U.S. government for all assistance provided to the beneficiary over 40 quarters => TEN YEARS. And here's the kicker: even if/when the couple is divorced.

The petitioner/sponsor assumes full ownership that debt, not the beneficiary ... unless the beneficiary becomes a naturalized citizen, dies, or cancels the current petition. Imagine that after spending a huge amount of money, time, and emotional investment in a relationship that (for argument sake) ultimately ends in divorce. Followed by your having to reimburse the government for all support your "ex-" receives from the U.S. government ... up to ten years of disbursements. You're raising kids, have rent/mortgage payments, regular monthly bills, and now the repayment of your ex's government support checks.

I know, worst case scenario ... but it's not an unlikely scenario. A little food for thought.

Ok. My brother is my joint sponsor. I am unemployed as of late and I have a couple of questions.

1. What is needed for my supporting documents of the I-134? I made a little list myself and I know some things may or may not be needed. Can anyone tell me how accurate this is?

Tax Transcripts for the last 3 years

Most Recent Pay stubs

statement from officer of the bank with details regarding the account

statement from employer

This is the list i have compiled from various readings and the form itself. How accurate is this? Do I need more?

ALSO since I am unemployed and the Embassy in Copenhagen needs me to fill out the I-134 too what should I include?

Thanks SO much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[okspider 0]

Your list looks good. Double-check the VJ Guides and visit the DOS site to verify.

With respect to your brother as a co-sponsor, please forgive my proverbial raining on your parade. Below is information I did NOT receive after meeting with two different immigration attorneys. I learned this on VJ.

The I134 is a legalling binding document with the U.S. government which stipulates - many people miss this - that the petitioner/sponsor(s) will reimburse the U.S. government for all assistance provided to the beneficiary over 40 quarters => TEN YEARS. And here's the kicker: even if/when the couple is divorced.

The petitioner/sponsor assumes full ownership that debt, not the beneficiary ... unless the beneficiary becomes a naturalized citizen, dies, or cancels the current petition. Imagine that after spending a huge amount of money, time, and emotional investment in a relationship that (for argument sake) ultimately ends in divorce. Followed by your having to reimburse the government for all support your "ex-" receives from the U.S. government ... up to ten years of disbursements. You're raising kids, have rent/mortgage payments, regular monthly bills, and now the repayment of your ex's government support checks.

I know, worst case scenario ... but it's not an unlikely scenario. A little food for thought.

Ok. My brother is my joint sponsor. I am unemployed as of late and I have a couple of questions.

1. What is needed for my supporting documents of the I-134? I made a little list myself and I know some things may or may not be needed. Can anyone tell me how accurate this is?

Tax Transcripts for the last 3 years

Most Recent Pay stubs

statement from officer of the bank with details regarding the account

statement from employer

This is the list i have compiled from various readings and the form itself. How accurate is this? Do I need more?

ALSO since I am unemployed and the Embassy in Copenhagen needs me to fill out the I-134 too what should I include?

Thanks SO much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks much. It's so funny how everytime I post a question and say my brother is my joint sponsor how EVERY person posts something about this. My brother and I know what it is to have a co-sponsor. You however did not word this correctly and had I not known I would have probably lost my mind with worry about something that made no sense. What you should have told me.. Is that I and my brother/(co sponsor) should understand that the I-134 is a legal binding contract between the sponsor and the beneficiary. And that if something were to happen that he is legally responsible for my spouse or ex-spouse for that matter (for 10 years). I liked your proverbial raining on my parade but I did not ask what it meant to have a co-sponsor and if I had you would have given me confusing fuddled information that I would have had to make another post about because you wrote it completely wrong. Thank you for your response. I will have to go back to my old stanby of I have a question.... and YES my co-sponsor is aware of what a co-sponsor is.

[anitacastillo 0]

There is more info on this board about I-134 -- do a search.

The I-134 allows the sponsor to qualify either via 1) income or 2) assets.

If your brother meets the 125% of poverty for all members of his household plus your fiance on his income alone (proved with recent tax return, including W-2s plus a recent employer letter) then assets are not used. Assets are why you provide bank stmts/letter or house ownership, etc.

You also have to complete a I-134, even though you do not meet the requirements.

Meanwhile, why don't you get a job? Sounds like you are unemployed by choice .... Your fiance will not be able to work in the US immediately -- who will pay the expenses of the two of you?

[MM_MS 0]

<snip> My brother and I know what it is to have a co-sponsor. You however did not word this correctly and had I not known I would have probably lost my mind with worry about something that made no sense. What you should have told me.. Is that I and my brother/(co sponsor) should understand that the I-134 is a legal binding contract between the sponsor and the beneficiary. <snip>

The I-134 is NOT "... a legal binding contract between the sponsor and the beneficiary." Befuddled is an apt description! The beneficiary does not sign the document, right? How then could it possibly be an agreement between sponsor and beneficiary??

The I-134 is the form filled out by the petitioner and sponsor(s) as a means to provide proof to the US government that the sponsor(s) can and will support the beneficiary ... and meet the other obligations stipulated.

Given your reply, it comes as no surprise that you didn't receive many replies.

Your list looks good. Double-check the VJ Guides and visit the DOS site to verify.

With respect to your brother as a co-sponsor, please forgive my proverbial raining on your parade. Below is information I did NOT receive after meeting with two different immigration attorneys. I learned this on VJ.

The I134 is a legalling binding document with the U.S. government which stipulates - many people miss this - that the petitioner/sponsor(s) will reimburse the U.S. government for all assistance provided to the beneficiary over 40 quarters => TEN YEARS. And here's the kicker: even if/when the couple is divorced.

The petitioner/sponsor assumes full ownership that debt, not the beneficiary ... unless the beneficiary becomes a naturalized citizen, dies, or cancels the current petition. Imagine that after spending a huge amount of money, time, and emotional investment in a relationship that (for argument sake) ultimately ends in divorce. Followed by your having to reimburse the government for all support your "ex-" receives from the U.S. government ... up to ten years of disbursements. You're raising kids, have rent/mortgage payments, regular monthly bills, and now the repayment of your ex's government support checks.

I know, worst case scenario ... but it's not an unlikely scenario. A little food for thought.

Ok. My brother is my joint sponsor. I am unemployed as of late and I have a couple of questions.

1. What is needed for my supporting documents of the I-134? I made a little list myself and I know some things may or may not be needed. Can anyone tell me how accurate this is?

Tax Transcripts for the last 3 years

Most Recent Pay stubs

statement from officer of the bank with details regarding the account

statement from employer

This is the list i have compiled from various readings and the form itself. How accurate is this? Do I need more?

ALSO since I am unemployed and the Embassy in Copenhagen needs me to fill out the I-134 too what should I include?

Thanks SO much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks much. It's so funny how everytime I post a question and say my brother is my joint sponsor how EVERY person posts something about this. My brother and I know what it is to have a co-sponsor. You however did not word this correctly and had I not known I would have probably lost my mind with worry about something that made no sense. What you should have told me.. Is that I and my brother/(co sponsor) should understand that the I-134 is a legal binding contract between the sponsor and the beneficiary. And that if something were to happen that he is legally responsible for my spouse or ex-spouse for that matter (for 10 years). I liked your proverbial raining on my parade but I did not ask what it meant to have a co-sponsor and if I had you would have given me confusing fuddled information that I would have had to make another post about because you wrote it completely wrong. Thank you for your response. I will have to go back to my old stanby of I have a question.... and YES my co-sponsor is aware of what a co-sponsor is.

[okspider 0]

There is more info on this board about I-134 -- do a search.

The I-134 allows the sponsor to qualify either via 1) income or 2) assets.

If your brother meets the 125% of poverty for all members of his household plus your fiance on his income alone (proved with recent tax return, including W-2s plus a recent employer letter) then assets are not used. Assets are why you provide bank stmts/letter or house ownership, etc.

You also have to complete a I-134, even though you do not meet the requirements.

Meanwhile, why don't you get a job? Sounds like you are unemployed by choice .... Your fiance will not be able to work in the US immediately -- who will pay the expenses of the two of you?

And I am not unemployed by choice. I stated that I knew I had to complete the I-134. Who will pay for expenses for us? Well I think that is up to me to know how that is going to work. EVEN if I did have a job I would still need a co-sponsor. I am a full time student. I can't work right now. And I am taking off the fall semester to go to Denmark again so I can be with him at our interview. I live with my mom and her husband right now. We will live with her until we get fully on our feet. I know how we are going to survive. I just needed to know since I wasn't employed right now. What documentation do I need to provide? That's all I asked. But thank you for the concern.

<snip> My brother and I know what it is to have a co-sponsor. You however did not word this correctly and had I not known I would have probably lost my mind with worry about something that made no sense. What you should have told me.. Is that I and my brother/(co sponsor) should understand that the I-134 is a legal binding contract between the sponsor and the beneficiary. <snip>

The I-134 is NOT "... a legal binding contract between the sponsor and the beneficiary." Befuddled is an apt description! The beneficiary does not sign the document, right? How then could it possibly be an agreement between sponsor and beneficiary??

The I-134 is the form filled out by the petitioner and sponsor(s) as a means to provide proof to the US government that the sponsor(s) can and will support the beneficiary ... and meet the other obligations stipulated.

Given your reply, it comes as no surprise that you didn't receive many replies.

Your list looks good. Double-check the VJ Guides and visit the DOS site to verify.

With respect to your brother as a co-sponsor, please forgive my proverbial raining on your parade. Below is information I did NOT receive after meeting with two different immigration attorneys. I learned this on VJ.

The I134 is a legalling binding document with the U.S. government which stipulates - many people miss this - that the petitioner/sponsor(s) will reimburse the U.S. government for all assistance provided to the beneficiary over 40 quarters => TEN YEARS. And here's the kicker: even if/when the couple is divorced.

The petitioner/sponsor assumes full ownership that debt, not the beneficiary ... unless the beneficiary becomes a naturalized citizen, dies, or cancels the current petition. Imagine that after spending a huge amount of money, time, and emotional investment in a relationship that (for argument sake) ultimately ends in divorce. Followed by your having to reimburse the government for all support your "ex-" receives from the U.S. government ... up to ten years of disbursements. You're raising kids, have rent/mortgage payments, regular monthly bills, and now the repayment of your ex's government support checks.

I know, worst case scenario ... but it's not an unlikely scenario. A little food for thought.

Ok. My brother is my joint sponsor. I am unemployed as of late and I have a couple of questions.

1. What is needed for my supporting documents of the I-134? I made a little list myself and I know some things may or may not be needed. Can anyone tell me how accurate this is?

Tax Transcripts for the last 3 years

Most Recent Pay stubs

statement from officer of the bank with details regarding the account

statement from employer

This is the list i have compiled from various readings and the form itself. How accurate is this? Do I need more?

ALSO since I am unemployed and the Embassy in Copenhagen needs me to fill out the I-134 too what should I include?

Thanks SO much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks much. It's so funny how everytime I post a question and say my brother is my joint sponsor how EVERY person posts something about this. My brother and I know what it is to have a co-sponsor. You however did not word this correctly and had I not known I would have probably lost my mind with worry about something that made no sense. What you should have told me.. Is that I and my brother/(co sponsor) should understand that the I-134 is a legal binding contract between the sponsor and the beneficiary. And that if something were to happen that he is legally responsible for my spouse or ex-spouse for that matter (for 10 years). I liked your proverbial raining on my parade but I did not ask what it meant to have a co-sponsor and if I had you would have given me confusing fuddled information that I would have had to make another post about because you wrote it completely wrong. Thank you for your response. I will have to go back to my old stanby of I have a question.... and YES my co-sponsor is aware of what a co-sponsor is.

Well anywho I wasn't being an a-hole as you took for me to be. I just hate people always explaining about this co-sponsor thing when I don't ask. It was really nice and in my best intrest for you to tell me but it is really starting to irk me because it seems like people are more intrested in implying (indirectly) that I am dumb. And my co-sponsor is dumb. Rather then answering my question (which was stated in a nice manner) So I don't know why I wouldn't get any replies as you stated. I guess I just jumped down the wrong persons throat. I know you were just trying to help. And I just got the I-134 mixed up with the I-184. I know you were just trying to help.. I just even get private messages explaining it to me and I don't need it. Or ask for it.

[okspider 0]

There is more info on this board about I-134 -- do a search.

The I-134 allows the sponsor to qualify either via 1) income or 2) assets.

If your brother meets the 125% of poverty for all members of his household plus your fiance on his income alone (proved with recent tax return, including W-2s plus a recent employer letter) then assets are not used. Assets are why you provide bank stmts/letter or house ownership, etc.

You also have to complete a I-134, even though you do not meet the requirements.

Meanwhile, why don't you get a job? Sounds like you are unemployed by choice .... Your fiance will not be able to work in the US immediately -- who will pay the expenses of the two of you?

And I am not unemployed by choice. I stated that I knew I had to complete the I-134. Who will pay for expenses for us? Well I think that is up to me to know how that is going to work. EVEN if I did have a job I would still need a co-sponsor. I am a full time student. I can't work right now. And I am taking off the fall semester to go to Denmark again so I can be with him at our interview. I live with my mom and her husband right now. We will live with her until we get fully on our feet. I know how we are going to survive. I just needed to know since I wasn't employed right now. What documentation do I need to provide? That's all I asked. But thank you for the concern.

<snip> My brother and I know what it is to have a co-sponsor. You however did not word this correctly and had I not known I would have probably lost my mind with worry about something that made no sense. What you should have told me.. Is that I and my brother/(co sponsor) should understand that the I-134 is a legal binding contract between the sponsor and the beneficiary. <snip>

The I-134 is NOT "... a legal binding contract between the sponsor and the beneficiary." Befuddled is an apt description! The beneficiary does not sign the document, right? How then could it possibly be an agreement between sponsor and beneficiary??

The I-134 is the form filled out by the petitioner and sponsor(s) as a means to provide proof to the US government that the sponsor(s) can and will support the beneficiary ... and meet the other obligations stipulated.

Given your reply, it comes as no surprise that you didn't receive many replies.

Your list looks good. Double-check the VJ Guides and visit the DOS site to verify.

With respect to your brother as a co-sponsor, please forgive my proverbial raining on your parade. Below is information I did NOT receive after meeting with two different immigration attorneys. I learned this on VJ.

The I134 is a legalling binding document with the U.S. government which stipulates - many people miss this - that the petitioner/sponsor(s) will reimburse the U.S. government for all assistance provided to the beneficiary over 40 quarters => TEN YEARS. And here's the kicker: even if/when the couple is divorced.

The petitioner/sponsor assumes full ownership that debt, not the beneficiary ... unless the beneficiary becomes a naturalized citizen, dies, or cancels the current petition. Imagine that after spending a huge amount of money, time, and emotional investment in a relationship that (for argument sake) ultimately ends in divorce. Followed by your having to reimburse the government for all support your "ex-" receives from the U.S. government ... up to ten years of disbursements. You're raising kids, have rent/mortgage payments, regular monthly bills, and now the repayment of your ex's government support checks.

I know, worst case scenario ... but it's not an unlikely scenario. A little food for thought.

Ok. My brother is my joint sponsor. I am unemployed as of late and I have a couple of questions.

1. What is needed for my supporting documents of the I-134? I made a little list myself and I know some things may or may not be needed. Can anyone tell me how accurate this is?

Tax Transcripts for the last 3 years

Most Recent Pay stubs

statement from officer of the bank with details regarding the account

statement from employer

This is the list i have compiled from various readings and the form itself. How accurate is this? Do I need more?

ALSO since I am unemployed and the Embassy in Copenhagen needs me to fill out the I-134 too what should I include?

Thanks SO much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks much. It's so funny how everytime I post a question and say my brother is my joint sponsor how EVERY person posts something about this. My brother and I know what it is to have a co-sponsor. You however did not word this correctly and had I not known I would have probably lost my mind with worry about something that made no sense. What you should have told me.. Is that I and my brother/(co sponsor) should understand that the I-134 is a legal binding contract between the sponsor and the beneficiary. And that if something were to happen that he is legally responsible for my spouse or ex-spouse for that matter (for 10 years). I liked your proverbial raining on my parade but I did not ask what it meant to have a co-sponsor and if I had you would have given me confusing fuddled information that I would have had to make another post about because you wrote it completely wrong. Thank you for your response. I will have to go back to my old stanby of I have a question.... and YES my co-sponsor is aware of what a co-sponsor is.

Well anywho I wasn't being an a-hole as you took for me to be. I just hate people always explaining about this co-sponsor thing when I don't ask. It was really nice and in my best intrest for you to tell me but it is really starting to irk me because it seems like people are more intrested in implying (indirectly) that I am dumb. And my co-sponsor is dumb. Rather then answering my question (which was stated in a nice manner) So I don't know why I wouldn't get any replies as you stated. I guess I just jumped down the wrong persons throat. I know you were just trying to help. And I just got the I-134 mixed up with the I-184. I know you were just trying to help.. I just even get private messages explaining it to me and I don't need it. Or ask for it.

I meant I-864

[AUBGER 0]

wow...

I can't believe people can use other people. I m the beneficiary myself and I wish everyone was like me in the sense of God forbid making the cosponsor pay....

Mikey has his parents as co-sponsors and I had the cosponsored I-134 for about a month in my documents now...It never even came to my mind to use them of something is not gonna work..

Are people really profiting from this?

That's so sad

God I guess people have to be very careful before getting married

Good luck to you with the process I'm sure if you chose the right fiance, with co-sponsor or not it's gonna be a happy family

[okspider 0]

wow...

I can't believe people can use other people. I m the beneficiary myself and I wish everyone was like me in the sense of God forbid making the cosponsor pay....

Mikey has his parents as co-sponsors and I had the cosponsored I-134 for about a month in my documents now...It never even came to my mind to use them of something is not gonna work..

Are people really profiting from this?

That's so sad

God I guess people have to be very careful before getting married

Good luck to you with the process I'm sure if you chose the right fiance, with co-sponsor or not it's gonna be a happy family

Some people are really evil!

[MM_MS 0]

Please know that 99.9% of us on VJ don't mean to make anyone feel bad (with the exception of liars and trolls). This is a stressful, awful process. Most of us try to provide information that assists ... without spoon-feeding information which VJers can find on their own. And at the risk of p#!&ing you off, I wonder if VJers aren't PM'ing you privately so that you don't feel ridiculed in the public forum.

What raised some flags - for a good reason or not - is that you have a co-sponsor while you're not in school and you're not working. The CO will be evaluating that. Additionallly, you'll be visiting your fiancee in November (?) rather than getting a job. I'm not passing judgement. Yet, these decisions are considered along with everything else in your K-1. The CO has to make a subjective decision - some COs are reasonable, while others are by the book. I suspect that's why it was suggested that you consider finding work. Getting a job will strengthen your petition. And who doesn't want to push the odds in their favor? Good luck with everything moving forward!

[okspider 0]

Please know that 99.9% of us on VJ don't mean to make anyone feel bad (with the exception of liars and trolls). This is a stressful, awful process. Most of us try to provide information that assists ... without spoon-feeding information which VJers can find on their own. And at the risk of p#!&ing you off, I wonder if VJers aren't PM'ing you privately so that you don't feel ridiculed in the public forum.

What raised some flags - for a good reason or not - is that you have a co-sponsor while you're not in school and you're not working. The CO will be evaluating that. Additionallly, you'll be visiting your fiancee in November (?) rather than getting a job. I'm not passing judgement. Yet, these decisions are considered along with everything else in your K-1. The CO has to make a subjective decision - some COs are reasonable, while others are by the book. I suspect that's why it was suggested that you consider finding work. Getting a job will strengthen your petition. And who doesn't want to push the odds in their favor? Good luck with everything moving forward!

Well from everything I have read and asked a million questions and searched for hours on end it doesn't even matter that I don't have a job. NOT to mention that any duration of time I worked this year wouldn't even matter because it would not be enough to have to filed taxes which I wouldn't if it was below the level. My brother makes $60,000 a year and only takes care of himself which is why he is a co-sponsor. I guess in SOME way it would be considered red flags but that's why we can have co-sponsors for lifes little curves. And yes I am going to Denmark in November instead of looking for a job because as I stated I have read.. and re-read that it rarely matters. UNLESS I was using government assistance which i am not so yeah. I am not worried.

[rebeccajo 14]

The I-134 is not a legally binding affidavit on the sponsor. Period.

It is not referenced in the INA and therefore is unenforceable. Its purpose with most consulates is a 'boiler plate' form giving them a consistent guide for support of the intending immigrant.

The I864 used at adjustment of status is binding upon the sponsor insofar as the sponsored adjustees use of means-tested benefits. And even in that case, the adjustee has to be prosecuted for misuse of those benefits.

[rebeccajo 14]

Please know that 99.9% of us on VJ don't mean to make anyone feel bad (with the exception of liars and trolls). This is a stressful, awful process. Most of us try to provide information that assists ... without spoon-feeding information which VJers can find on their own. And at the risk of p#!&ing you off, I wonder if VJers aren't PM'ing you privately so that you don't feel ridiculed in the public forum.

What raised some flags - for a good reason or not - is that you have a co-sponsor while you're not in school and you're not working. The CO will be evaluating that. Additionallly, you'll be visiting your fiancee in November (?) rather than getting a job. I'm not passing judgement. Yet, these decisions are considered along with everything else in your K-1. The CO has to make a subjective decision - some COs are reasonable, while others are by the book. I suspect that's why it was suggested that you consider finding work. Getting a job will strengthen your petition. And who doesn't want to push the odds in their favor? Good luck with everything moving forward!

Well from everything I have read and asked a million questions and searched for hours on end it doesn't even matter that I don't have a job. NOT to mention that any duration of time I worked this year wouldn't even matter because it would not be enough to have to filed taxes which I wouldn't if it was below the level. My brother makes $60,000 a year and only takes care of himself which is why he is a co-sponsor. I guess in SOME way it would be considered red flags but that's why we can have co-sponsors for lifes little curves. And yes I am going to Denmark in November instead of looking for a job because as I stated I have read.. and re-read that it rarely matters. UNLESS I was using government assistance which i am not so yeah. I am not worried.

For pity sake people, stop talking about red flags and other nonsense you don't know anything about.

Every individiual is responsible for researching their own case. This research takes a curve once the I129F leaves NVC and goes to the consulate. At that point, all bets are off and every bit of generic garbage you falsely allowed your brain to absorb from reading in the K1 forum goes out the window. EACH CONSULATE IS DIFFERENT and not just different in how they communiciate with the beneficiary, when and how they schedule interviews, and how medical examinations are conducted.

Red flags at one consulate are boring details in another. CO's at some consulates spend 30 seconds asking questions about the bonafide nature of the relationship - some consulates grill the beneficiaries to tears. Some consulates put every beneficiary on Administrative Review and some hardly ever do. Some consulates frown on financial co-sponsorship of the beneficary - some could care less.

Stop trying to scare the be-jesus out of people. Instead instruct them to read up and research where it pertains to them.

Edited September 2, 2007 by rebeccajo