LPR's Face Deportation With New Green Card Rule

[desert_fox 32]

Does that mean they will also go through the FBI checks?

I would hope so. And if they find that you committed some felony 10 years ago that made you removeable under the law in effect at that time, and they didnt take action because they werent notified, etc., now is their opportunity to get him/her out of here.

[Kez/JWolf 6]

They are not having to re-apply for LPR status they are only having to get a new greencard....

Kez

If their status can be revoked when they get the new greencard then there is no difference.

Each and every Greencard holder could have their status revoked if the US government decided that was what they wanted to do....

The only way to be sure that you can live in the US is to become a us citizen.... as citizenship can only be revoked if you commit a serious crime, like treason or murder...

The US government will always have the right to change who can live in this country and we are all at risk of them changing the law....

Kez

[Sheriff Uling 3]

we will have to pay every 10 years to renew our greencards if we do not become a citizen, so why should others not have to do the same....

Because they were given green cards with no expiration dates from the get go. They should be grandfathered in.

It's inconvenient at worst, but, on the surface, it appears to be a necessary evil. There should be no grandfathering for something like this. Not when it comes to immigration. I know it's something else to deal with (especially the additional charge) and I empathize with all that must comply. However, in the end, it appears to be the right and fair thing to do.

Edited September 1, 2007 by Sheriff Uling

[Killer_Clown_2009 0]

The moral is ... don't trust the US government, become a USC so they have less of a chance to screw you.

[Jenn! 918]

The moral is ... don't trust the US government, become a USC so they have less of a chance to screw you.

Yup, I think that just about sums it up.

[mawilson 2,133]

The only way to be sure that you can live in the US is to become a us citizen.... as citizenship can only be revoked if you commit a serious crime, like treason or murder...

Citizenship cannot be revoked if you commit murder.

Treason is another story.

[Kez/JWolf 6]

Have a read of this......

http://www.newcitizen.us/losing.html

Kez

[mawilson 2,133]

Have a read of this......

http://www.newcitizen.us/losing.html

I see no contradiction with what I said, unless you can show me where it says that murderers can lose citizenship.

[bszoom42 0]

Have a read of this......

http://www.newcitizen.us/losing.html

I see no contradiction with what I said, unless you can show me where it says that murderers can lose citizenship.

Why would you assume he is contradicting you? It could just be he is adding supporting evidence to back up your statement.

[mawilson 2,133]

Have a read of this......

http://www.newcitizen.us/losing.html

I see no contradiction with what I said, unless you can show me where it says that murderers can lose citizenship.

Why would you assume he is contradicting you? It could just be he is adding supporting evidence to back up your statement.

Because he/she was the one who said that citizenship can be revoked if you commit a serious crime, such as murder.

[Kez/JWolf 6]

I read about a convicted murder who served 15 years in a US jail and on his release he was deported to Scotland.... where is family had emigrated from when he was a child... he had been a US citizen since he was in his 20's it was revoked and he was deported....

Kez

[Caladan 19]

Does that mean they will also go through the FBI checks?

I would hope so. And if they find that you committed some felony 10 years ago that made you removeable under the law in effect at that time, and they didnt take action because they werent notified, etc., now is their opportunity to get him/her out of here.

I would be very surprised (though it could happen) that 20 years ago you could be a murderer or rapist and receive a green card. So I'm guessing (just guessing) that most of the crimes that would render people inadmissible are along the lines of the more ridiculous CIMT, so something like a drug conviction that would have been ignored in '79 but a problem post-war-on-drugs.

[rebeccajo 14]

Well, it might be a new rule they have to pay a fee, but I'm not sure it's a new rule about reporting back in to USCIS every ten years.

I'd have to research this further, but I believe even though the cards were issued with no expiry, the immigrant was still required to 're-file' every 10 years. The lack of a card expiration date just didn't help them to remember that.

I recently posted here (to virtually no responses) of a recent situation involving a Canadian immigrant whose children go to the same school as my son. The man has been in the US for 20 years or so and possessed such a card. He recently went for a driver's license renewal and was told 'immigration is looking for you'.

He contacted the Pittsburgh District Office and was advised he was 'okay' (his words) but that he needed to fill out some forms.

So there you have the long arm of the Department of Homeland Security reaching out and touching an immigrant via the WV Department of Motor Vehicles - an agency of the state of WV and in no way under the juris of the federal government.

[Jenn! 918]

Well, it might be a new rule they have to pay a fee, but I'm not sure it's a new rule about reporting back in to USCIS every ten years.

I'd have to research this further, but I believe even though the cards were issued with no expiry, the immigrant was still required to 're-file' every 10 years. The lack of a card expiration date just didn't help them to remember that.

Now that you say that, I think that's true. My best friend's mom, who is a german national who got her green card with no expiry, had a difficult time the last time she traveled internationally. I think she was forced to renew before they would let her leave the country.

[sparkofcreation 0]

The only way to be sure that you can live in the US is to become a us citizen.... as citizenship can only be revoked if you commit a serious crime, like treason or murder...

Citizenship can only be revoked for high treason or accepting a high government position or nobility title with another country's government, or if you lied about something important on your citizenship application (there was a woman in her 90s whose citizenship was revoked last year for lying about being a member of the Nazi Party during WWII). Legally it can also be revoked if you voluntarily apply for citizenship with another country but in practice that never actually happens.

It most definitely canNOT be revoked for murder or any other crime other than high treason.