LPR's Face Deportation With New Green Card Rule

[Jenn! 918]

US outlines new measures for green card holders

published: Thursday | August 30, 2007

WASHINGTON, (CMC):

The United States Citizenship and Immigration Services is urging Caribbean and other immigrants with green cards without expiration dates to immediately replace them or face penalties.

The division of the Department of Homeland Security said that these immigrants may have to pay US$370 to replace these cards or face criminal penalties. It said immigrants who repeatedly fail to comply with the new requirement face up to 30 days in jail and a US$100 fine.

The U.S. said about 750,000 green cards with no expiration dates were issued between 1977 and 1989.

"It's a security issue; it's making sure the right person has the right card," said Bill Wright, a spokesman for the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.

With the new requirement, some legal Caribbean immigrants with criminal records who obtained their green cards without an expiration date between 1977 and 1989 may be in a dilemma.

Immigration officials said if they apply for the new green card they may face deportation since, under the 1996 Immigration Law, immigrants are regarded as deportable for crimes, however minor, which occurred years ago.

Under the new measure, immigration officials said even if the immigrant served a prison term or paid a fine for the offence, he or she still faces deportation.

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[mawilson 2,133]

That's f##ked up.

[no name 1]

I knew a Brit guy who had to renew his, as his old one (like in the article) was paper & had no pic or expiry date. He said every time he went thru Customs he got hassled.

[Ban Hammer 13,332]

seen it before.

[Jenn! 918]

That's f##ked up.

I agree!

[Heracles 417]

That's f##ked up.

Why? The rules are the rules. How wrong to ask of someone who has been here from 1977, who is NOT a citizen, to pay $370 to renew his permanent residency visa. Clearly wrong wrong wrong..

[Kez/JWolf 6]

If they have been here for that long they could apply for citizenship.... we will have to pay every 10 years to renew our greencards if we do not become a citizen, so why should others not have to do the same.... and as for those who are worried because the have committed a crime, well you should have thought about that before you did the crime.... sorry no sympathy for them...

Kez

[Jenn! 918]

we will have to pay every 10 years to renew our greencards if we do not become a citizen, so why should others not have to do the same....

Because they were given green cards with no expiration dates from the get go. They should be grandfathered in.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

That's f##ked up.

Why? The rules are the rules. How wrong to ask of someone who has been here from 1977, who is NOT a citizen, to pay $370 to renew his permanent residency visa. Clearly wrong wrong wrong..

For one because the rules changed after they were given the greencard.

With the new requirement, some legal Caribbean immigrants with criminal records who obtained their green cards without an expiration date between 1977 and 1989 may be in a dilemma.

Immigration officials said if they apply for the new green card they may face deportation since, under the 1996 Immigration Law, immigrants are regarded as deportable for crimes, however minor, which occurred years ago.

Under the new measure, immigration officials said even if the immigrant served a prison term or paid a fine for the offence, he or she still faces deportation.

[Caladan 19]

It's like they want people to ignore them for being useless.

[Kez/JWolf 6]

we will have to pay every 10 years to renew our greencards if we do not become a citizen, so why should others not have to do the same....

Because they were given green cards with no expiration dates from the get go. They should be grandfathered in.

So if USCIS were to change the rules say in 2 years time so that anyone who files for AOS based on marriage to a USC will automatically get citizenship instead of a Greencard... if they then said it only applies to people who filed after the change you would all be a bit p1ssed off.... you would all want to be included....

Well you have to take the good with the bad... you cant pick and choose what changes should be grandfathered in just because you might benefit from some but not others....

Kez

[Dr_LHA 3]

If they have been here for that long they could apply for citizenship....

So? Perhaps they don't want citizenship. Its not the goal of every green card applicant to become a US citizen you know. Wanting to live in the USA and wanting to become a US Citizen are two different things.

we will have to pay every 10 years to renew our greencards if we do not become a citizen, so why should others not have to do the same....

Because their Green Cards don't have expiry dates on them? Its pretty pathetic that the US government can just decide that a Green Card that was supposed to be issued permenantly can suddenly become null and void IMHO.

and as for those who are worried because the have committed a crime, well you should have thought about that before you did the crime.... sorry no sympathy for them...

Why? They paid their dues and thought it was all dealt with years ago. Now suddenly they're being deported for minor crimes that may have happened 10-20 years ago, when deportation was not a consequence of being convicted of a crime. Sorry but that is bullshit, if they want to make deportation punishment for crime, fair enough, but applying it retroactively is pure ####### and I have plenty of sympathy for those caught up in this personally.

Edited August 31, 2007 by Dr_LHA

[Dr_LHA 3]

So if USCIS were to change the rules say in 2 years time so that anyone who files for AOS based on marriage to a USC will automatically get citizenship instead of a Greencard... if they then said it only applies to people who filed after the change you would all be a bit p1ssed off.... you would all want to be included....

Personally I'd be glad that I didn't have Citizenship forced upon me. So "you all" doesn't include me in this.

[russ 1]

Because they were given green cards with no expiration dates from the get go. They should be grandfathered in.

Agreed. Changing the rules after the fact is silly. This has come up several times over the last few years. For people that have been here legally for 30 years, most of their lives, this strikes me as a dubious use of USCIS's time.

[Dr_LHA 3]

Because they were given green cards with no expiration dates from the get go. They should be grandfathered in.

Agreed. Changing the rules after the fact is silly. This has come up several times over the last few years. For people that have been here legally for 30 years, most of their lives, this strikes me as a dubious use of USCIS's time.

Its a pretty ruthless way of extracting money from people if you ask me. The $370 for a replacement green card is ridiculous amount of money for little to no work on the part of USCIS. Are we really supposed to believe that the cost of taking someone's photo, fingerprints and printing a new card for them is really more than 1/3rd of the workload on USCIS of doing full AOS application with EAD and AP?

Edited August 31, 2007 by Dr_LHA