"I do" becomes "no you don't"

[rhymeswithcandi 0]

Don't even get me started on those things. I get so upset when I hear about stuff like. I think there should be a straight line that the only way you can marry a foreigner is by either applying for a K1 / K3/CR-1. Everything else should be made illegal without any exceptions. I personally do not believe in 'spontaneous' weddings while a non-USC is in the US on some sort of tourist or student visa.

That sure raised my usually low blood pressure now.

This story made me pretty angry too... Illegal immigration in general makes me LIVID because it is the reason all of us have so much red tape in getting to live with our spouses.

I disagree with you though that spontaneous marriages are bogus. That's a crazy accusation and I'm glad they're not illegal

[Steve'sGirl 0]

Just to add a little something here since I get everyone upset with my last post (plus we are all here to express our opinions, I did address anyone personally and did not mean to offend anyone).

I believe (and no, I don't have any statistics to prove it, just my opinion) that if you are really planning a life together you usually don't just 'go for it' without any long-term plans. Getting married is not like buying a pair of shoes that look nice. Marriage is a commitment that has long-term consequences, whether it works out or not. In my opinion (and yes, I'm sorry if I upset someone here again) people who are getting married (mainly while on a tourist visa or VWP) are taking the easy way out and this option is a big loop hole for many who are just getting married for the sake of coming to the US or in some cases, money.

And.. this has nothing to do with ignorance. Why were the K1, K3/CR-1 visas established in the first place? Why not let everyone get married as they like and live wherever they feel like? It's a complex matter and I strongly believe that it should be either one way or another and the grey area should not be an option.

[athena_ny 1]

Just to add a little something here since I get everyone upset with my last post (plus we are all here to express our opinions, I did address anyone personally and did not mean to offend anyone).

I believe (and no, I don't have any statistics to prove it, just my opinion) that if you are really planning a life together you usually don't just 'go for it' without any long-term plans. Getting married is not like buying a pair of shoes that look nice. Marriage is a commitment that has long-term consequences, whether it works out or not. In my opinion (and yes, I'm sorry if I upset someone here again) people who are getting married (mainly while on a tourist visa or VWP) are taking the easy way out and this option is a big loop hole for many who are just getting married for the sake of coming to the US or in some cases, money.

And.. this has nothing to do with ignorance. Why were the K1, K3/CR-1 visas established in the first place? Why not let everyone get married as they like and live wherever they feel like? It's a complex matter and I strongly believe that it should be either one way or another and the grey area should not be an option.

Do you understand spontaneous marriage? Meaning you planned it AFTER you entered. My husband met me after he entered. We planned a small wedding. We had a date.

MANY people on tourist visas are overstays. Student visas are in the country for YEARS. The idea of meeting someone is really that crazy to you? The's asinine.

[JA Tam 7]

Fling stone inna pigpen, whoeva bawl out, ah dem ie lick....

Let's all agree to disagree...It's apparent that common ground will not be achieved in the last posts on this thread.

[LaL 418]

Let's all agree to disagree...It's apparent that common ground will not be achieved in the last posts on this thread.

I think you might be right. That's what happens when emotional opinions are challeneged by what is actually allowed/legal avenues. (as we see all over VJ)

[bora bora 1]

This article makes me mad too. I teach adult ESOL classes a couple times a week and if I had a nickel for every conversation I overhead about visas/immigration/marriage to USCs I wouldn't have to work again - for the rest of my life. One of my students showed us pictures of her trip to visit her sister in NYC. She pointed out her sister in one picture with her husband AND her boyfriend. My student even said that her sister married one guy for the GC, and that the other guy in the picture is her real boyfriend. She said that they took that picture to show immigration that "hey, look, even my sister visiting from FL met my husband." This happened the day of, or day after, our AOS interview. It makes me so pissed! My husband and I went through so much to be together and to hear people talk about AOS interviews as just a way of becoming legal in the country makes me hot !!!

However, I know there is nothing that I can do about it - this is a business. I just try not to get angry. But .

[Caladan 19]

Just to add a little something here since I get everyone upset with my last post (plus we are all here to express our opinions, I did address anyone personally and did not mean to offend anyone).

I believe (and no, I don't have any statistics to prove it, just my opinion) that if you are really planning a life together you usually don't just 'go for it' without any long-term plans. Getting married is not like buying a pair of shoes that look nice. Marriage is a commitment that has long-term consequences, whether it works out or not. In my opinion (and yes, I'm sorry if I upset someone here again) people who are getting married (mainly while on a tourist visa or VWP) are taking the easy way out and this option is a big loop hole for many who are just getting married for the sake of coming to the US or in some cases, money.

And.. this has nothing to do with ignorance. Why were the K1, K3/CR-1 visas established in the first place? Why not let everyone get married as they like and live wherever they feel like? It's a complex matter and I strongly believe that it should be either one way or another and the grey area should not be an option.

Do you understand spontaneous marriage? Meaning you planned it AFTER you entered. My husband met me after he entered. We planned a small wedding. We had a date.

MANY people on tourist visas are overstays. Student visas are in the country for YEARS. The idea of meeting someone is really that crazy to you? The's asinine.

And then, what's more valid? A relationship where they met once in person, or one where they've known each other for years through school and/or work? F

[Jason-Sasha 1]

do you ever wonder how many fraudulent people have passed through VJ? Just makes you wonder.....hmmmmmmm

Yes, I do!

I also see many which makes me think 'that poor USC doesn't know what's gonna hit em'

I dont think there are many members here who are in a "business" relationship. but I cant help but think there are some USCs who will be getting used or played. We'd be naive to think that everyone in VJ was 100% legit. I know many people here would be upset by this revalation, of sorts. But, C'mon.....we've all seen profiles here that just didn't make much sense. Feeling guilty???

[zqt3344 21]

Precisely and well said! And Exactly why I think this getting married while on a tourist visa or whatever visa is just ripe for fraud which will only make it harder on the rest of us following the rules and laws later on in the years to come, I truly feel for all those people that will be getting married now and in the future, it will only become harder and more cost prohibitive.

do you ever wonder how many fraudulent people have passed through VJ? Just makes you wonder.....hmmmmmmm

[zqt3344 21]

So I suppose based on your constant promoting of tourist visa or overstay visa marriages to US citizens your spouse was here in the USA illegally and overstayed his/her visa also? And then we all wonder what is wrong with immigration system, the gray area loopholes need to be closed forever and everyone follow the rules and procedures of one way to marry and then that would end all this fraud, which it is obvious it is going on along with those that are truly legit.

Just to add a little something here since I get everyone upset with my last post (plus we are all here to express our opinions, I did address anyone personally and did not mean to offend anyone).

I believe (and no, I don't have any statistics to prove it, just my opinion) that if you are really planning a life together you usually don't just 'go for it' without any long-term plans. Getting married is not like buying a pair of shoes that look nice. Marriage is a commitment that has long-term consequences, whether it works out or not. In my opinion (and yes, I'm sorry if I upset someone here again) people who are getting married (mainly while on a tourist visa or VWP) are taking the easy way out and this option is a big loop hole for many who are just getting married for the sake of coming to the US or in some cases, money.

And.. this has nothing to do with ignorance. Why were the K1, K3/CR-1 visas established in the first place? Why not let everyone get married as they like and live wherever they feel like? It's a complex matter and I strongly believe that it should be either one way or another and the grey area should not be an option.

Do you understand spontaneous marriage? Meaning you planned it AFTER you entered. My husband met me after he entered. We planned a small wedding. We had a date.

MANY people on tourist visas are overstays. Student visas are in the country for YEARS. The idea of meeting someone is really that crazy to you? The's asinine.

[LaL 418]

So I suppose based on your constant promoting of tourist visa or overstay visa marriages to US citizens your spouse was here in the USA illegally and overstayed his/her visa also? And then we all wonder what is wrong with immigration system, the gray area loopholes need to be closed forever and everyone follow the rules and procedures of one way to marry and then that would end all this fraud, which it is obvious it is going on along with those that are truly legit.

Just to add a little something here since I get everyone upset with my last post (plus we are all here to express our opinions, I did address anyone personally and did not mean to offend anyone).

I believe (and no, I don't have any statistics to prove it, just my opinion) that if you are really planning a life together you usually don't just 'go for it' without any long-term plans. Getting married is not like buying a pair of shoes that look nice. Marriage is a commitment that has long-term consequences, whether it works out or not. In my opinion (and yes, I'm sorry if I upset someone here again) people who are getting married (mainly while on a tourist visa or VWP) are taking the easy way out and this option is a big loop hole for many who are just getting married for the sake of coming to the US or in some cases, money.

And.. this has nothing to do with ignorance. Why were the K1, K3/CR-1 visas established in the first place? Why not let everyone get married as they like and live wherever they feel like? It's a complex matter and I strongly believe that it should be either one way or another and the grey area should not be an option.

Do you understand spontaneous marriage? Meaning you planned it AFTER you entered. My husband met me after he entered. We planned a small wedding. We had a date.

MANY people on tourist visas are overstays. Student visas are in the country for YEARS. The idea of meeting someone is really that crazy to you? The's asinine.

Commenting to members about LEGAL options available to them is NOT "promoting tourist visa or overstay marriages". There are circumstance in which this is a legitimate legal option, and there are circumstances where this would not be. Have you been able to figure out the nuance between the two yet, instead of blanketing them with your "someone took my cookie" rhetoric?

Same misinformation, day after day ZQT.

[rebeccajo 14]

zqt....

Has anyone ever pointed out to you that the mere qualifer 'spouse' creates many 'loopholes' that other immigrants don't have? Like your 'spouse' can get a visa to enter this country IMMEDIATELY without having to wait in line for an immigrant visa number?

It's the title 'spouse' that creates the fraud. You don't have to file for AOS stateside to be a fraudster. Many fraudsters file for visas.

[greeneyedgirlfl 0]

I think the thing that frosts my cookies is that these "criminals" (hey, they're breaking the law, so let's say it how it is) bog down the system and make it longer for us to go through the process...

[Ken y Leidys 20]

I think the thing that frosts my cookies is that these "criminals" (hey, they're breaking the law, so let's say it how it is) bog down the system and make it longer for us to go through the process...

I hear ya. Where's my K-1 !?!

[zqt3344 21]

Amen sister, preach it, more than we care to know, it is going on and a serious problem. Which is why all of us that are legitimate legal law abiding couples get to suffer and pay the price with USCIS and all the steps, sadly the criminals, scammers or fraudsters once again ruin it for the honest, loving couples.

do you ever wonder how many fraudulent people have passed through VJ? Just makes you wonder.....hmmmmmmm