The Birthright Citizenship Act of 2007

[Heracles 417]

I guess the framers meant if you give birth on a particular piece of property owned by the government you have rights to it.

How fkcin absurd is that?

Automatic citizenship wasnt the objective of their statements. Hopefully our voices will overide the pandering.

The 14th Amendment wasn't written by the original framers of the constitution. Nor was the 2nd, but that was added shortly afterwards.

It has been taken out of context. Nonetheless, common sense would say something written in the 18 century may need to be amended to reflect the 21st century issue.

[natty bumppo 297]

I guess the framers meant if you give birth on a particular piece of property owned by the government you have rights to it.

How fkcin absurd is that?

Automatic citizenship wasnt the objective of their statements. Hopefully our voices will overide the pandering.

The 14th Amendment wasn't written by the original framers of the constitution. Nor was the 2nd, but that was added shortly afterwards.

Same can be said about the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc .... and your point about the 2nd is ... you don't like it ??

[Dan J 277]

I guess the framers meant if you give birth on a particular piece of property owned by the government you have rights to it.

How fkcin absurd is that?

Automatic citizenship wasnt the objective of their statements. Hopefully our voices will overide the pandering.

The 14th Amendment wasn't written by the original framers of the constitution. Nor was the 2nd, but that was added shortly afterwards.

You understand my point! Hiding behind the interpretation of it says even more. Its not rocket science.

Your welcome to your interpretation, but so far, the courts haven't been on your side. Its the interpretation of the courts that matters. Do you want to go back to the words of the second amendment or the current interpretation of it?

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

I guess the framers meant if you give birth on a particular piece of property owned by the government you have rights to it.

How fkcin absurd is that?

Automatic citizenship wasnt the objective of their statements. Hopefully our voices will overide the pandering.

The 14th Amendment wasn't written by the original framers of the constitution. Nor was the 2nd, but that was added shortly afterwards.

It has been taken out of context. Nonetheless, common sense would say something written in the 18 century may need to be amended to reflect the 21st century issue.

Booyah, he knows it! Hiding behind an interpretation that he can twist out of context to make his point. The interpretation will be changed and the leg that he stands on will be removed.

[Heracles 417]

much ado about nothing...typical poitical bullsh!t....it will not get enough votes in the house much less senate..

this has been the law in the constitution, since this country began...and to change it..is nothing but a knee jerk reaction to failed policies of this country

That attitude is what is keeping America in the dark ages.

Thank God Australia chose a hybrid of the US / UK legal system and constitution. Therefore they do not have to put up with this red tape, aka is it constitutional, #######.

You keep saying how great Australia is, what are you still doing here?

You know what I love about like minded left wing Americans. You talk a big game about being socialist and wealth distribution etc. But when you are given an example of another nation who is doing this and actually much better than any democrat ever will; You guys cannot take it.

Like the time Michale Moore was rolled when he said Aus, Canada, UK etc have free healthcare but a doctor replied that it is not free any actually paid for through much higher taxes. The fool then wanted to debate with the doctor and basically acted as if he, the doctor, was the idiot.

Isn't democracy about participation and working to improve government? Or should we, because another country might be doing those things, leave and immigrate to that country?

Working to improve government lol. How is that, by constantly beating on the not constitutional drum. I have seriously never ever heard of any other country, in the world, beat around the 'not constitutional' bush so much. I have also been here long enought to realise there are very few people left who give a ###### about 'America' anymore. Plus that very few actually care to listen to the other person or look at someone who is doing something better and learn from them.

The country is literally falling apart. Billions in debt. Does not know who the hell is here anymore yet some are still arguing that anyone should be allowed to have an anchor baby here..

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

The right to bear arms is solely for the porpose to keep the government in check.

Keep in mind the word militia was simply a word from the period of time it was written.

Edited August 31, 2007 by CarolsMarc

[Dan J 277]

I guess the framers meant if you give birth on a particular piece of property owned by the government you have rights to it.

How fkcin absurd is that?

Automatic citizenship wasnt the objective of their statements. Hopefully our voices will overide the pandering.

The 14th Amendment wasn't written by the original framers of the constitution. Nor was the 2nd, but that was added shortly afterwards.

It has been taken out of context. Nonetheless, common sense would say something written in the 18 century may need to be amended to reflect the 21st century issue.

Booyah, he knows it! Hiding behind an interpretation that he can twist out of context to make his point. The interpretation will be changed and the leg that he stands on will be removed.

Good thing judges are not like you, they generally think about the repercussions of their actions and would not likely change the interpretation to fit a minority political idealogy. So good luck at getting that constitutional amendment passed.

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

You have an EU anchor baby, Charles? :o

not that i'm aware of. she gets to renounce that in a few months when she turns 18.

i've also not been back to the netherlands since i left in 1990.

[Dan J 277]

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

The right to bear arms is solely for the porpose to keep the government in check.

Are you part of a well regulated militia?

[natty bumppo 297]

the USA is a Republic ... not a Democracy.

A republic, is a system in which the people choose representatives who, in turn, make policy decisions on their behalf ... this is what we have.

Edited August 31, 2007 by Natty Bumppo

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

Children born to us citizens abroad, don't automatically receive US citizenship, but they do have a right to it.

Nooooo.....they are NATURAL-BORN citizens, which means they are US citizens by birth.

No application for citizenship is necessary.

other than registering the birth with the us embassy.

[Dan J 277]

much ado about nothing...typical poitical bullsh!t....it will not get enough votes in the house much less senate..

this has been the law in the constitution, since this country began...and to change it..is nothing but a knee jerk reaction to failed policies of this country

That attitude is what is keeping America in the dark ages.

Thank God Australia chose a hybrid of the US / UK legal system and constitution. Therefore they do not have to put up with this red tape, aka is it constitutional, #######.

You keep saying how great Australia is, what are you still doing here?

You know what I love about like minded left wing Americans. You talk a big game about being socialist and wealth distribution etc. But when you are given an example of another nation who is doing this and actually much better than any democrat ever will; You guys cannot take it.

Like the time Michale Moore was rolled when he said Aus, Canada, UK etc have free healthcare but a doctor replied that it is not free any actually paid for through much higher taxes. The fool then wanted to debate with the doctor and basically acted as if he, the doctor, was the idiot.

Isn't democracy about participation and working to improve government? Or should we, because another country might be doing those things, leave and immigrate to that country?

Working to improve government lol. How is that, by constantly beating on the not constitutional drum. I have seriously never ever heard of any other country, in the world, beat around the 'not constitutional' bush so much. I have also been here long enought to realise there are very few people left who give a ###### about 'America' anymore. Plus that very few actually care to listen to the other person or look at someone who is doing something better and learn from them.

The country is literally falling apart. Billions in debt. Does not know who the hell is here anymore yet some are still arguing that anyone should be allowed to have an anchor baby here..

What have I argued for thats not constitutional? Anchor babies are constitutional, and will remain so, unless congress and the states change the constitution.

So you don't care, what are you doing in this thread?

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

The right to bear arms is solely for the porpose to keep the government in check.

Are you part of a well regulated militia?

i am - a militia of one! more guns than i can carry

[natty bumppo 297]

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

The right to bear arms is solely for the porpose to keep the government in check.

Are you part of a well regulated militia?

i am - a militia of one! more guns than i can carry

let's make it a militia of two !!

[Heracles 417]

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

The right to bear arms is solely for the porpose to keep the government in check.

Keep in mind the word militia was simply a word from the period of time it was written.

Funny how the left looooooooooooooves to attack the word 'militia' but fails to understand the concept of context during that era. And also fails to apply it to various other amendments.

EG Separation of church and state. Which has now been turned into a anything religious must be burned and taken down. Gezz I wonder how many people where religious back then in comparison to how many where not.. I am also sure they wanted child molesters, porn, violence, drug use, gangs, hatred etc to be protected by various amendments. Clearly these where part of your everyday 18th century lifestyle.