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"About 2.8 million illegal immigrants who have been in the country for more than two years but less than five would have three years to return to a port of entry along the border, such as El Paso, cross the border and apply for one of 450,000 green cards that will be available each year. Kennedy said the whole process could take less than a day, and the immigrants could then return to their U.S. homes. However, Republican aides warned that there would be no guarantees, and that some of those immigrants could get stuck across the border."

This portion of the plan was drafted by Senator Rick Santorum’s 8 year-old son, Billy* and is based on both popular playground game “Red Rover Red Rover” and that thing where you tell your little sister that there’s a surprise for her on the front lawn and then lock the door when she goes to look.

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So immigration has become a big problem this year, because it’s an even-numbered year, and even-numbered years are the ones where immigrants, hippies, gay-marriers, and baby-killers all act up for various reasons.

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Char, that would have been my biggest problem with the law. Essentially, the only difference between Javier and the illegals who would have gotten green cards is that he was caught. Basically, they are being rewarded for being lucky enough not to get caught like he did. That one burns me a bit. But I guess it's not a problem now. Doesn't look like the law's going to happen, right?

I would think if they were going to do something like that, they need to do something about those who had been punished for that same crime.

As for your situation, Char, I have no words. It just disgusts me to no end what's happening to you. To be honest, every time I think about how ugly and messed up our situation is, thinking about what you've been through puts things into perspective. If the country owes anyone something, it's you.

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Basically, they are being rewarded for being lucky enough not to get caught like he did. That one burns me a bit.

burns you that he got caught? :mellow:

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Basically, they are being rewarded for being lucky enough not to get caught like he did. That one burns me a bit.

burns you that he got caught? :mellow:

Frances,

It's clear to me what Melissa meant. I'm sure it's just as clear to you.

Trying to start a flame war?

God bless you if you are!

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Basically, they are being rewarded for being lucky enough not to get caught like he did. That one burns me a bit.

burns you that he got caught? :mellow:

Frances,

It's clear to me what Melissa meant. I'm sure it's just as clear to you.

Trying to start a flame war?

God bless you if you are!

it's a serious question...had he not got caught, he might be able to benefit from this ... *shrug*

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Basically, they are being rewarded for being lucky enough not to get caught like he did. That one burns me a bit.

burns you that he got caught? :mellow:

Frances,

It's clear to me what Melissa meant. I'm sure it's just as clear to you.

Trying to start a flame war?

God bless you if you are!

it's a serious question...had he not got caught, he might be able to benefit from this ... *shrug*

Whatever, Frances. You were picking on Melissa. But if that means a good ol fashioned flame-war, I'm all for it :P

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Whatever, Frances. You were picking on Melissa. But if that means a good ol fashioned flame-war, I'm all for it :P

Ari...in her own words...

Essentially, the only difference between Javier and the illegals who would have gotten green cards is that he was caught.
To me that sounds like she would find their situation enviable (law pending).

And I can't say that going through all this wouldn't make you desperate sometimes to just say screw it, this is nonsense...I wish he'd just stayed. THAT'S human nature. It's the desperation and frustration...but then you think, but who wants to look over their shoulders their entire life and not be able to return home....

I'm honestly not loknig for a flame war...sorry to disappoint...I'm just a curious sort...ok, I'll shut up now. zipping.gif

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Frances, to explain myself what burns me is that for the same crime we got jail, they would get a green card! Sorry, but that's not fair.

You're right. It's not.

yup

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Frances, to explain myself what burns me is that for the same crime we got jail, they would get a green card! Sorry, but that's not fair.

You're right. It's not.

yup

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I have a close friend who fled communist Romania in the late 1980's, in the middle of the night, and was taken prisoner in Yugoslavia. He accepted that though, and knew it would happen before he would be allowed any sort of asylum. He accepts that he was a prisoner because he committed a crime of crossing a border illegally....this fiasco now just burns him up. He struggled to get to the US, and had to be without his wife and 3 children for 5 years before he could bring them over here, and of course after the communist regime fell... but he really IS living the American dream now...

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I personally look at it like speeding. A lot of us have broken the law and gone 70 when the speed limit is 65. Some of us were caught and got a ticket, and some of us weren't. Now they raised the speed limit to 70 and all those that were going 70 already won't ever get a ticket-they will just keep driving.

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