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I was planning my marriage in Egypt and getting all the plans together when a friend of that is also married to an Egyptian told me that the Egyptian government was not allowing Americans coming there to get married anymore because the American embassy would not/could not approve or deny people to get married.Does anyone else know about this?I read it on this website as well. Please let me know if anyone else knows about this or if anything has changed.

http://marriage.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsi...sular/acs12.htm

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Egypt
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Salaams/Hi Everyone

I was planning my marriage in Egypt and getting all the plans together when a friend of that is also married to an Egyptian told me that the Egyptian government was not allowing Americans coming there to get married anymore because the American embassy would not/could not approve or deny people to get married.Does anyone else know about this?I read it on this website as well. Please let me know if anyone else knows about this or if anything has changed.

http://marriage.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsi...sular/acs12.htm

Yes, this is correct and I know first-hand because my fiancee and I tried in June. We even had a paper notarized from Ohio stating that I was an American Christian who according to the American law was legally able to marry. My fiancee is a lawyer in Egypt and was told that if the embassy stamped this paper stating that it was indeed an American document that the ministry would possibly consider it. No such luck, they kept our paper and questioned our relationship and intentions and I'll just comment that it was a very unfortunate situation. The last I looked the change was still the same and has been in effect since April 2007. My fiancee said that when he sat down with the manager at the ministry of justice that he was told that it was due to the large amounts of Egyptian/American marriages that are going on and the end results is divorce. Which if this is true it hurt us good people who are in love. This situation is what put our marriage off and why we are are now on this visa journey. Good luck with your situation and hopefully they will change the requirements soon.

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I had to comment on your comment (bolded). Don't you think that many of the ppl who ended up divorced did love each other (or at least one party was in love) for at least a short time prior to divorce? Nothing is guaranteed. I, personally, agree with the Egyptian gov't decision to make it hard for ppl to get married. We may never know how much fraud it cuts down on but even if it's one instance I'm all for it. It's kinda like when parents forbid things for their child's own good. Sometimes I wish I was forbidden to get myself into this mess. :(

Yes, this is correct and I know first-hand because my fiancee and I tried in June. We even had a paper notarized from Ohio stating that I was an American Christian who according to the American law was legally able to marry. My fiancee is a lawyer in Egypt and was told that if the embassy stamped this paper stating that it was indeed an American document that the ministry would possibly consider it. No such luck, they kept our paper and questioned our relationship and intentions and I'll just comment that it was a very unfortunate situation. The last I looked the change was still the same and has been in effect since April 2007. My fiancee said that when he sat down with the manager at the ministry of justice that he was told that it was due to the large amounts of Egyptian/American marriages that are going on and the end results is divorce. Which if this is true it hurt us good people who are in love. This situation is what put our marriage off and why we are are now on this visa journey. Good luck with your situation and hopefully they will change the requirements soon.
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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Egypt
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I had to comment on your comment (bolded). Don't you think that many of the ppl who ended up divorced did love each other (or at least one party was in love) for at least a short time prior to divorce? Nothing is guaranteed. I, personally, agree with the Egyptian gov't decision to make it hard for ppl to get married. We may never know how much fraud it cuts down on but even if it's one instance I'm all for it. It's kinda like when parents forbid things for their child's own good. Sometimes I wish I was forbidden to get myself into this mess. :(

Yes, this is correct and I know first-hand because my fiancee and I tried in June. We even had a paper notarized from Ohio stating that I was an American Christian who according to the American law was legally able to marry. My fiancee is a lawyer in Egypt and was told that if the embassy stamped this paper stating that it was indeed an American document that the ministry would possibly consider it. No such luck, they kept our paper and questioned our relationship and intentions and I'll just comment that it was a very unfortunate situation. The last I looked the change was still the same and has been in effect since April 2007. My fiancee said that when he sat down with the manager at the ministry of justice that he was told that it was due to the large amounts of Egyptian/American marriages that are going on and the end results is divorce. Which if this is true it hurt us good people who are in love. This situation is what put our marriage off and why we are are now on this visa journey. Good luck with your situation and hopefully they will change the requirements soon.

I don't agree with this at all. These are grown adults it is not for the goverment to step in and say who can and can't get married. If it is about divorce, 50 percent of all US marriages end in divorce not just egypt/us , its not thier place to pass judgement on this and indeed it is a very bad turn of events. At times I have thought what if I just give up on having my fiance with me here and I just move to Egypt, but now thanks to this rule I can't even be legally married to him if I go there, what is that. :o

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It's basically an urfi that is registered with the court in Egypt. My friend had this done. She was told by a lawyer in Egypt that it was legal in the US but turns out it's only legal in Egypt.

You can be married to him legally in Egypt if you want to move there it just wouldn't be recognized here.

What type of marriage would this be?

Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: Egypt
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Alaikum asalam,

My husband and I had what they call an Islamic marriage in Egypt. Our marriage was recognized in Egypt but not here in the USA. This was done with a lawyer and a stamp from the court in Egypt.

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My husband and I had what they call an Islamic marriage in Egypt. Our marriage was recognized in Egypt but not here in the USA.

I thought the U.S. always recognizes marriages which are recognized as legal within the country it was performed?

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My husband and I had what they call an Islamic marriage in Egypt. Our marriage was recognized in Egypt but not here in the USA.

I thought the U.S. always recognizes marriages which are recognized as legal within the country it was performed?

I think the marriage has to be registered with the government to be legal. The Islamic marriage is just the relgious portion, I think.

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I was thinking more about this and the idea came to me that it's business. They knew the fees were going to be raised the end of July, and they knew the amount of marriages that would rush due to the raise in fees so they squeezed the necks of people by issuing the new limits in April. By doing this they are achieving two things. Redirecting the potential marriage partner through the proper channels of immigration by excluding this loop hole and getting more bange for the buck doing so.

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I was thinking more about this and the idea came to me that it's business. They knew the fees were going to be raised the end of July, and they knew the amount of marriages that would rush due to the raise in fees so they squeezed the necks of people by issuing the new limits in April. By doing this they are achieving two things. Redirecting the potential marriage partner through the proper channels of immigration by excluding this loop hole and getting more bange for the buck doing so.

I don't think so. Don't get me wrong the gov't is totally money hungry with those unreasonable fees that won't end up speeding up *anyone's* process and all, but I totally think it's due to the number of fraudulent marriages that are occuring. Of course I have no stats to back that statement up but I'm sure the gov't does. I mean why else meddle in our business like that?

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