Free lunches at school

[Ban Hammer 13,644]

This is a bit O/T - but thought I throw it out there anyway.

If you work for BP at their corporate offices - you get a free meal every day.

they're busy poisoning the lake anyways.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

This is a bit O/T - but thought I throw it out there anyway.

If you work for BP at their corporate offices - you get a free meal every day.

they're busy poisoning the lake anyways.

That frickin Bush. Yeah thats it. Its Bushes fault! YAY!

[kisschick1976 0]

what about if you can afford the kids when you have them but then somewhere down the line life happens and you might not be able to afford the kids??...

i suppose you've heard of insurance?

When did they start selling 'suddenly becoming poor' insurance? I swear, there's an insurance for everything these days.

[Fandango 1,440]

I do know that AFLAC lil duck is great

Seriously tho...for accidents it's GREAT.

ETA: kisschick...you lost 66 lbs?!>!?!?!?! WAY TO GOOOOOOOOOO!

Where's the piccies? ;P

Edited August 27, 2007 by LisaD

[Missbollinger 1]

I read a statement here that said it was a relief just knowing the program was there just in case they needed it. How the hec can you get any releif from knowing something exists? Counceling is in order here.

Have you ever been in the position where the proverbial rug gets pulled from under you? You go from being an affluent family with no financial worries to the ###### what do we do now? Even with planning and saving nothing could have prepared us for the ####### we went through the last year. NOTHING and I mean nothing prepared us for it. One minute you have insurance a baby on the way, groceries paid for out of your housekeeping and BOOM. No insurance, you don't qualify for help because you're not a citizen yet. EVERY little and I seriously mean every little helped. We learnt a huge lesson in being humble last year. The charities we donated to all these years were the ones we had to turn to. To make the house payment and utilities. Sure we could have sold the house for a loss, moved into an apt that would have been the easy way. We held on to the home we had built together, the sweat, blood and tears we didn't want to give up. I can't count how many times I broke down and just cried. Never did I ever imagine it could happen to us. Our relationship was pushed to the limits, at one point we weren't even sure we would make it.

I tell you, some of you don't realize how good you have it until you experienced what we did as a family. Don't get me wrong, I was where you all on the high and mighty throne are now at one point. I NEVER thought I would need assistance in any way. I worked from when I was 14 onwards. Provided for myself and for the dead beat first husband. All I can say is watch yourselves because you never know when the shoe is on the other foot and you're the ones left scrambling trying to hold everything together. Feed your families and keep a roof over your heads.

[Missbollinger 1]

I do know that AFLAC lil duck is great

Seriously tho...for accidents it's GREAT.

ETA: kisschick...you lost 66 lbs?!>!?!?!?! WAY TO GOOOOOOOOOO!

Where's the piccies? ;P

We had short term disability insurance through AFLAC unfortunately it doesn't cover a company locking out 2700 employees or medical bills when you don't have insurance apprently.

[Missbollinger 1]

I want to apologize if I seem flippant but after being through the wringer I don't have much compassion for people getting on their high horses about something they apprently have no clue about. I'm sorry people abuse the system but lets penalize all those people out there that need or might need the system to actually help them because they're not as fortunate. Its called being humble go eat some pie!

[kisschick1976 0]

I do know that AFLAC lil duck is great

Seriously tho...for accidents it's GREAT.

ETA: kisschick...you lost 66 lbs?!>!?!?!?! WAY TO GOOOOOOOOOO!

Where's the piccies? ;P

Here

I've hit a bit of a plateau lately, I hope I can get back on track and lose another 20 before the wedding.

ETA: *looks at timeline* ok scratch that, maybe another 10

Edited August 27, 2007 by kisschick1976

[Fandango 1,440]

Kisschick...you really do look FANTASTIC! Keep up the great work!!!

MissBolinger - I'm really sorry with what you've gone through, and I can only say that I hope you and your family have found better times now. But to assume that those opposed to the abuse of the system have never had hard times is wrong.

I wound up $1 million in debt after having brain and spinal surgery. Because I was hit by a guy driving on the wrong side of the road who only carried 10k worth of coverage. Obviously, my job went bye bye...there was no AFLAC at the time, and let's just say that it was a very hard time all around. We all have our own cross to bear.

My grandfather used to say 'I used to feel sorry for myself cos I had no shoes. Then I saw a man with no feet.'

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

I read a statement here that said it was a relief just knowing the program was there just in case they needed it. How the hec can you get any releif from knowing something exists? Counceling is in order here.

Have you ever been in the position where the proverbial rug gets pulled from under you? You go from being an affluent family with no financial worries to the ###### what do we do now? Even with planning and saving nothing could have prepared us for the ####### we went through the last year. NOTHING and I mean nothing prepared us for it. One minute you have insurance a baby on the way, groceries paid for out of your housekeeping and BOOM. No insurance, you don't qualify for help because you're not a citizen yet. EVERY little and I seriously mean every little helped. We learnt a huge lesson in being humble last year. The charities we donated to all these years were the ones we had to turn to. To make the house payment and utilities. Sure we could have sold the house for a loss, moved into an apt that would have been the easy way. We held on to the home we had built together, the sweat, blood and tears we didn't want to give up. I can't count how many times I broke down and just cried. Never did I ever imagine it could happen to us. Our relationship was pushed to the limits, at one point we weren't even sure we would make it.

I tell you, some of you don't realize how good you have it until you experienced what we did as a family. Don't get me wrong, I was where you all on the high and mighty throne are now at one point. I NEVER thought I would need assistance in any way. I worked from when I was 14 onwards. Provided for myself and for the dead beat first husband. All I can say is watch yourselves because you never know when the shoe is on the other foot and you're the ones left scrambling trying to hold everything together. Feed your families and keep a roof over your heads.

You my freind just made my point! Your story is inspirational.

I am certainly not sittin on a throne. I realize how fragile things can be. All it takes is looking at the opposite of what you have. Enjoying the harvest without thinking of the drought is where fools are made.

Good for you, I mean that!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

and your solution is to ban the programme rather than try to educate?

Makes perfect sense...

Educating parents to feed their kids? #######. Great a "new program" How to feed your kids, Totally absurd. Very typical response from someoneone who is driven only by emotion.

Driven by emotion!? :lol: :lol:

What are you driven by Marc? Take a look back at your posts in this thread.... You'll find far more 'emotion' there than in the post you highlighted above.

I should have been clearer I guess. Decisions should not be made based on emotions.

Ok - but then what is your basis for wanting this program to be scrapped? Based on what you've said so far it sure isn't based on anything specific or factual. Making a decision based solely on rhetoric is about emotion, not logic.

My basis for (scrapping) a fine bit of rhetoric that word, would'nt you say? I prefer the words not needed! When a person some how can find the means to pay for their kids food when school is not in session and then when school starts they some how have no means to pay, is utter non-sense.

I can cook a better meal than any school can. And I do make my boys lunches when I have them on school nights. It's a known fact that 80 to 90% of all fruit and veggies in a typical school lunch goes in the garbage. I see alot of sympathy for the kids which is fine, never is there follow up comments on the responsibility of the parents.

Thank goodness some of you werent around when this country was in its infancy. My mom was raised in an orchard during the depression, her story alone is enough for me to understand where I dont want to be.

Now go have your FREE lunch. After all you DESERVE it. Right!

I don't want a free lunch. Neither do I want to scrap it (and no - one word is not rhetoric) on the basis of an anecdotal (this would be rhetorical) diatribe about your childhood. Rather like people who look back on the 1960's as some sort of golden-age while conveniently ignoring the many, significant problems of that era.

I wasnt talking about you! Your assumptions say alot. Your usage of the word "scrap" shows your stance on the subject. The use of the word "diatribe"is also negative in nature,AKA rhetoric. Your anonymity also shows a Psychological need to stay hidden. Whats with that? Do you have a name?

Teaching dependancy in any fashion or form will only lead to disaster.

The human race and its accomplishments were built on success, not dependancy. Maybe some of you don't mind your 35 year old adult-child kikin back with their x-box 360, askin when dinner is gonna be ready. Its your choice but please,stay outta my wallet.

Ummm yeah... I still don't see the substantive reasoning behind any of the above. "Stay outta my wallet" because you're "lazy", "kickin back", "dependent". All I see are a bunch of broad unqualified assumptions about the people whose kids benefit from this program. Amazing how you can render judgment on circumstances and behaviour based on participation in a program.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I read a statement here that said it was a relief just knowing the program was there just in case they needed it. How the hec can you get any releif from knowing something exists? Counceling is in order here.

Have you ever been in the position where the proverbial rug gets pulled from under you? You go from being an affluent family with no financial worries to the ###### what do we do now? Even with planning and saving nothing could have prepared us for the ####### we went through the last year. NOTHING and I mean nothing prepared us for it. One minute you have insurance a baby on the way, groceries paid for out of your housekeeping and BOOM. No insurance, you don't qualify for help because you're not a citizen yet. EVERY little and I seriously mean every little helped. We learnt a huge lesson in being humble last year. The charities we donated to all these years were the ones we had to turn to. To make the house payment and utilities. Sure we could have sold the house for a loss, moved into an apt that would have been the easy way. We held on to the home we had built together, the sweat, blood and tears we didn't want to give up. I can't count how many times I broke down and just cried. Never did I ever imagine it could happen to us. Our relationship was pushed to the limits, at one point we weren't even sure we would make it.

I tell you, some of you don't realize how good you have it until you experienced what we did as a family. Don't get me wrong, I was where you all on the high and mighty throne are now at one point. I NEVER thought I would need assistance in any way. I worked from when I was 14 onwards. Provided for myself and for the dead beat first husband. All I can say is watch yourselves because you never know when the shoe is on the other foot and you're the ones left scrambling trying to hold everything together. Feed your families and keep a roof over your heads.

Well said. Experience is a great teacher.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

and your solution is to ban the programme rather than try to educate?

Makes perfect sense...

Educating parents to feed their kids? #######. Great a "new program" How to feed your kids, Totally absurd. Very typical response from someoneone who is driven only by emotion.

Driven by emotion!? :lol: :lol:

What are you driven by Marc? Take a look back at your posts in this thread.... You'll find far more 'emotion' there than in the post you highlighted above.

I should have been clearer I guess. Decisions should not be made based on emotions.

Ok - but then what is your basis for wanting this program to be scrapped? Based on what you've said so far it sure isn't based on anything specific or factual. Making a decision based solely on rhetoric is about emotion, not logic.

My basis for (scrapping) a fine bit of rhetoric that word, would'nt you say? I prefer the words not needed! When a person some how can find the means to pay for their kids food when school is not in session and then when school starts they some how have no means to pay, is utter non-sense.

I can cook a better meal than any school can. And I do make my boys lunches when I have them on school nights. It's a known fact that 80 to 90% of all fruit and veggies in a typical school lunch goes in the garbage. I see alot of sympathy for the kids which is fine, never is there follow up comments on the responsibility of the parents.

Thank goodness some of you werent around when this country was in its infancy. My mom was raised in an orchard during the depression, her story alone is enough for me to understand where I dont want to be.

Now go have your FREE lunch. After all you DESERVE it. Right!

I don't want a free lunch. Neither do I want to scrap it (and no - one word is not rhetoric) on the basis of an anecdotal (this would be rhetorical) diatribe about your childhood. Rather like people who look back on the 1960's as some sort of golden-age while conveniently ignoring the many, significant problems of that era.

I wasnt talking about you! Your assumptions say alot. Your usage of the word "scrap" shows your stance on the subject. The use of the word "diatribe"is also negative in nature,AKA rhetoric. Your anonymity also shows a Psychological need to stay hidden. Whats with that? Do you have a name?

Teaching dependancy in any fashion or form will only lead to disaster.

The human race and its accomplishments were built on success, not dependancy. Maybe some of you don't mind your 35 year old adult-child kikin back with their x-box 360, askin when dinner is gonna be ready. Its your choice but please,stay outta my wallet.

Ummm yeah... I still don't see the substantive reasoning behind any of the above. "Stay outta my wallet" because you're "lazy", "kickin back", "dependent". All I see are a bunch of broad unqualified assumptions about the people whose kids benefit from this program. Amazing how you can render judgment on circumstances and behaviour based on participation in a program.

Pickin and twistin with five sylabols! Your middle name is arent I smart.

Edited August 27, 2007 by CarolsMarc

[KarenCee 3]

Viewing the forest from the trees, in the overall US budget sense; any child in need of food is a good investment of my tax dollar.

Issues related to the parents? Not part of the equation, as the child had no choice in the matter.

This is what I've been trying to say and certain people just don't get it. Why make the child suffer because of the parents who abuse the system?

Viewing the forest from the trees, in the overall US budget sense; any child in need of food is a good investment of my tax dollar.

Issues related to the parents? Not part of the equation, as the child had no choice in the matter.

Yep,lets avoid the parental aspect of it.

And according to you keep those poor kids from having what's probably the best meal of the day for them...the free lunch at school. Yeah, that's real humane Marc.

Time for me to go teach all those poor kids who don't deserve a free meal at school. *sigh*

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

If you work for BP at their corporate offices - you get a free meal every day.

And I could have sworn that if one works there one earned that. Unless they work there for free...