Free lunches at school

[William33 110]

Viewing the forest from the trees, in the overall US budget sense; any child in need of food is a good investment of my tax dollar.

Issues related to the parents? Not part of the equation, as the child had no choice in the matter.

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

Viewing the forest from the trees, in the overall US budget sense; any child in need of food is a good investment of my tax dollar.

Issues related to the parents? Not part of the equation, as the child had no choice in the matter.

Exactly

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

This is a bit O/T - but thought I throw it out there anyway.

If you work for BP at their corporate offices - you get a free meal every day.

[rebeccajo 14]

This is a bit O/T - but thought I throw it out there anyway.

If you work for BP at their corporate offices - you get a free meal every day.

Even if you have a manicure or had sex the night before?

[Marilyn. 340]

how is self control going to take care of birth control ??

or are you saying that poor people shouldn't have sex??

Last I checked an orgasm can be had without penetration. Alas no babies and still havin fun. New horizons Marilyn. The hands are wonderful things to use with a partner during sex.

so are you listening, you poor people??..... no more sex for you!!!

[Marilyn. 340]

as a kid growing up our family hit a few rough patches.. granted we never went on welfare or anything but we had plenty of friends and neighbors who helped us out... bringing us groceries etc....

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

and your solution is to ban the programme rather than try to educate?

Makes perfect sense...

Educating parents to feed their kids? #######. Great a "new program" How to feed your kids, Totally absurd. Very typical response from someoneone who is driven only by emotion.

Driven by emotion!? :lol: :lol:

What are you driven by Marc? Take a look back at your posts in this thread.... You'll find far more 'emotion' there than in the post you highlighted above.

I should have been clearer I guess. Decisions should not be made based on emotions.

Ok - but then what is your basis for wanting this program to be scrapped? Based on what you've said so far it sure isn't based on anything specific or factual. Making a decision based solely on rhetoric is about emotion, not logic.

My basis for (scrapping) a fine bit of rhetoric that word, would'nt you say? I prefer the words not needed! When a person some how can find the means to pay for their kids food when school is not in session and then when school starts they some how have no means to pay, is utter non-sense.

I can cook a better meal than any school can. And I do make my boys lunches when I have them on school nights. It's a known fact that 80 to 90% of all fruit and veggies in a typical school lunch goes in the garbage. I see alot of sympathy for the kids which is fine, never is there follow up comments on the responsibility of the parents.

Thank goodness some of you werent around when this country was in its infancy. My mom was raised in an orchard during the depression, her story alone is enough for me to understand where I dont want to be.

Now go have your FREE lunch. After all you DESERVE it. Right!

I don't want a free lunch. Neither do I want to scrap it (and no - one word is not rhetoric) on the basis of an anecdotal (this would be rhetorical) diatribe about your childhood. Rather like people who look back on the 1960's as some sort of golden-age while conveniently ignoring the many, significant problems of that era.

I wasnt talking about you! Your assumptions say alot. Your usage of the word "scrap" shows your stance on the subject. The use of the word "diatribe"is also negative in nature,AKA rhetoric. Your anonymity also shows a Psychological need to stay hidden. Whats with that? Do you have a name?

Teaching dependancy in any fashion or form will only lead to disaster.

The human race and its accomplishments were built on success, not dependancy. Maybe some of you don't mind your 35 year old adult-child kikin back with their x-box 360, askin when dinner is gonna be ready. Its your choice but please,stay outta my wallet.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

This is a bit O/T - but thought I throw it out there anyway.

If you work for BP at their corporate offices - you get a free meal every day.

Even if you have a manicure or had sex the night before?

:lol: This has been one of the most enlightening and entertaining threads I've ever read.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

how is self control going to take care of birth control ??

or are you saying that poor people shouldn't have sex??

Last I checked an orgasm can be had without penetration. Alas no babies and still havin fun. New horizons Marilyn. The hands are wonderful things to use with a partner during sex.

so are you listening, you poor people??..... no more sex for you!!!

Marilyn, I love your recipes! In all seriousness. You have got to be kidding.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Viewing the forest from the trees, in the overall US budget sense; any child in need of food is a good investment of my tax dollar.

Issues related to the parents? Not part of the equation, as the child had no choice in the matter.

Yep,lets avoid the parental aspect of it.

[Fandango 1,439]

I'm not losing any sleep over the people who abuse the system. Anyone who is on welfare is not someone to be envied or for that matter despised. They are not in a privelaged position and the miniscule amount of tax that goes on supporting these people is not going to somehow make me significantly better off if I was to be able to keep it.

There are solutions to these problems, but removing useful benefits, especially those that benefit children, is not the way forward in my opinion.

But that's the thing....the one who abuses the system could be taking it away from others who might be considered 'borderline'

She's right though - WIC specifically states a grocery item and a specific quantity. It can only be exchanged for specific foods.

Then bring up the point and ASK instead of 'I don't want to call you a liar BUT...' Gotta love that word 'BUT'...those three lil letters mean 'disregard everything I just said'

The women who would ask me to take it asked me to either give it to someone else for trade, or PAY MY STAFF WITH THEM.

Ask, don't assume I'm a liar.

And really....like lying on a messageboard 'proves' a point anyways. Cmon now.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Viewing the forest from the trees, in the overall US budget sense; any child in need of food is a good investment of my tax dollar.

Issues related to the parents? Not part of the equation, as the child had no choice in the matter.

Avoiding parental care makes your point moot

This is a bit O/T - but thought I throw it out there anyway.

If you work for BP at their corporate offices - you get a free meal every day.

This is a bit O/T - but thought I throw it out there anyway.

If you work for BP at their corporate offices - you get a free meal every day.

Even if you have a manicure or had sex the night before?

how is self control going to take care of birth control ??

or are you saying that poor people shouldn't have sex??

Last I checked an orgasm can be had without penetration. Alas no babies and still havin fun. New horizons Marilyn. The hands are wonderful things to use with a partner during sex.

so are you listening, you poor people??..... no more sex for you!!!

This is a bit O/T - but thought I throw it out there anyway.

If you work for BP at their corporate offices - you get a free meal every day.

Even if you have a manicure or had sex the night before?

:lol: This has been one of the most enlightening and entertaining threads I've ever read.

When your argument is waining and the foundation in which you stand is weak, laughter is the cure for the children that you speak.

Edited August 27, 2007 by CarolsMarc

[Fandango 1,439]

LisaD probably meant EBT, which is the 'food stamp' benefit that has the little credit-card like appearance and is used like cash at grocery stores. WIC is the mother/infant/child fund, and that is certificate-for-goods.

But on it's own, yeah, WIC-for-nails when it's just not a cash benefit does sound a bit unbelievable. Either Lisa's got her acronyms mixed up (my bet), or she's telling tall tales, or her client at the nail salon was having fun winding up the teenager.

I was the mgr...it happened ALL THE TIME. It wasn't one story from one customer. Now I may not be up on all the forms of assistance, but I was asked to take them and I could trade them on, buy certain foods, or pay my staff with them since 'everyone needs milk'

But hey, if it's easier for some on here to discount my story as bullsh!t as to refuse to acknowledge that this sh!t happens, go ahead. Calling someone a 'possible liar' for no good reason really shouldn't be allowed, but hey....whatever.

[eric&gen 0]

A blow up doll would be a good idea for birth control lol

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

LisaD probably meant EBT, which is the 'food stamp' benefit that has the little credit-card like appearance and is used like cash at grocery stores. WIC is the mother/infant/child fund, and that is certificate-for-goods.

But on it's own, yeah, WIC-for-nails when it's just not a cash benefit does sound a bit unbelievable. Either Lisa's got her acronyms mixed up (my bet), or she's telling tall tales, or her client at the nail salon was having fun winding up the teenager.

I was the mgr...it happened ALL THE TIME. It wasn't one story from one customer. Now I may not be up on all the forms of assistance, but I was asked to take them and I could trade them on, buy certain foods, or pay my staff with them since 'everyone needs milk'

But hey, if it's easier for some on here to discount my story as bullsh!t as to refuse to acknowledge that this sh!t happens, go ahead. Calling someone a 'possible liar' for no good reason really shouldn't be allowed, but hey....whatever.

Lisa D, Ive seen people go to the grocery,stock the fridge of their crack dealer and go home happy. Not holding parents responsible is insane.

I read a statement here that said it was a relief just knowing the program was there just in case they needed it. How the hec can you get any releif from knowing something exists? Counceling is in order here.