Fiance Disapeared !!

[C and J 1]

It wouldn't let me edit my post, so here's a bit extra...

I, too, hate the people who jump on the age difference band-wagon - my parents (both British) had a 10 year age difference and that had no bearing on their relationship. The relationship they had (past tense, my father passed on) is something I would love Josh's and my marriage to become when we are finally together on a permanent basis. My uncle is 14 years older than my aunt. I am 3.5 years older than Josh. None of those differences make a dot of difference to the people we are or how we interact with our loved ones.

Anyone can be used for a visa... age difference, lifestyle etc are irrelevant if someone wants something badly enough. Not everything has to fit a stereotype. After all, I don't drink tea!

[Kiv 32]

It is so funny that when a MAN talks about virginity, some women get ALL bent out of shape. Why would she give it to you? She gotta give it to somebody, why not me. Its not the holy grail you know. Let me pose a question, how many of you (women) are married to your "first"? I would venture to say maybe a high of 10%, if that. Honestly, preferably I like a woman that has a few notches on her belt. Usually a lot more fun and exciting. Don't want to marry a woman that has notches going around the whole length of her belt either.

Maybe, at the time, she thought I was "the one". Or, she did this to seal the deal to sucker me in. Or maybe it was a little of both. Or the poster is correct and that in the throws of passion, I was so blinded by lust and pleasure that I missed her sprinkling some (fake) blood on my member. Who knows. The fact still remains that I was played. But, I deserved it being the bad U.S. man, wanting to take advantage of this girl and making her my sex slave/maid.

I think all these "maybes" and "what ifs" are hurting you more, is like being pinched for many pins when probably you should feel the pain for only one.

I hope you find out what really happened; that she is fine; that either she contact you or you find her.

[justagirl 0]

speaking from experience? Oh Sh.t that was you in the closet. I remember hearing a noise, but I was too busy too pay it any mind. And come to think about it, I remember seeing some saran wrap under the bed next to a little vile. She must have made a fake hymen too.

I can see you're upset otherwise you wouldn't turn this against me and say that i am speaking from experience...unfortunately for you these things don't get to me the way you think. I was trying to open your eyes a bit and make you realise that this girl did not cheat on you after(you said she did some new things in bed a virgin would not know!!!). So you pick whatever suites you best...you wanna belive she cheted on you that's how she knew those things...fine, whatever rocks your boat and makes you sleep at night. I am just saying that a virgin 20 yrs is like saying to me the hell froze over...but anyway, again you have to make all this about YOURSELF and make yourself look good. It is ok, i just trying to see how this all looks from another perspective. You don't like it so you blame me...you have some growing up to do, you know? you'll see what i was trying to see later and when you'll wanna thank me for it you know where to find me. In the mean time, keep keep your eyes closed then...you are just the perfect fish in the sea.

. She must have made a fake hymen too.

you only show here how little experience you ahve with wemen. You saw a hymen? LOL...Ok then.

[justagirl 0]

. Damn, to think about it, every girl I’ve had a relationship with did most of these things. They all must have been playing me. I’ll be more careful in the future, the next woman that wants to make me a hot meal and bring a cold drink, or expresses a desire to have kids or is nice, I’ll kick her A$$ to the curb cause this is the oldest trick in the book.

Any guys out there in VJ land, I hope you read this. If your girl has done any of these things; you better dump her now, cause she’s only playing you. If she does nothing for you and is a b.tch, she’s a keeper.

This so childish...I'm not saying if she does one of these things she must go. i'm just saying she did them all, at once. Yes, it is a strategy you have to look for in some wemen. I don't understand the grounds you stand on though when you are making these ironic statements. You make yourself look worse...the girl left didn't she? Duhhh

[justagirl 0]

It is so funny that when a MAN talks about virginity, some women get ALL bent out of shape. Why would she give it to you? She gotta give it to somebody, why not me. Its not the holy grail you know. Let me pose a question, how many of you (women) are married to your "first"? I would venture to say maybe a high of 10%, if that. Honestly, preferably I like a woman that has a few notches on her belt. Usually a lot more fun and exciting. Don't want to marry a woman that has notches going around the whole length of her belt either.

Maybe, at the time, she thought I was "the one". Or, she did this to seal the deal to sucker me in. Or maybe it was a little of both. Or the poster is correct and that in the throws of passion, I was so blinded by lust and pleasure that I missed her sprinkling some (fake) blood on my member. Who knows. The fact still remains that I was played. But, I deserved it being the bad U.S. man, wanting to take advantage of this girl and making her my sex slave/maid.

If a woman gives a guy the virginity she obviously loves him very much...i have never met a girl who would run away from the love of her life so fast, especialy if that girl gave herself to that guy for the first time.

This is how i look at things: she ran away from you so fast it's not even funny...There are 3 possible reasons: 1--you harmed her or 2--you were so lousy in the sack she couldn't take it and 3--you were not her first. Whatever suites you best.

again, ironic statements you give. You so missunderstood me. Nobody here, including me acuse you of beeing a bad american...but i do think you are very naive. This is not about what you did, i see you are very focused in blaming others and lifting shoulders on why she left. I am offering you a different perspective just so you don't get dupped again. You wanna make anything of all this...fine. You don't...that's fine too. I have NOTHING against you, Jonkam...i just gathered some info from you and what you said... thought it might help. Aparently not...good luck to you.

[justagirl 0]

When you strated postig i did not realise that you were here asking for sympaties and pats on the back. i thought you actualy posted asking for some answers concerning the "misterious" dissapearence of your fincee. So i did try my best to offer some answears, the way i knew best. Now i do realise though, the reason you are posting here is only for sympaty ONLY...it would have probably been better if i posted something like :' i'm sorry this happened to you...i have no idea how this could have happened. You are an awsome guy, so smart, so kind...how could all this have happened?" If that's what you want to hear, disconsider my past messages and keep only this one in mind. I do ralise now reding your posts that you are trying to put yourself on a pedestal and expect everybody to look at you and wonder.....

That's all i had to say....everybody, pls continue with the patting on the back!. Can't you see Jonkam does not want any answeres?

see ya'

[one...two...tree 2,762]

justagirl and jonkam are the same poster...the same poster that was in the MENA forum awhile ago. Same writing style - she (I'm convinced it's a woman) would carry on conversations with herself that time as well.

Thanks Charles for giving this troll validity by saying they're legit.

Edited August 28, 2007 by Mister Fancypants

[athena_ny 1]

I married my first. Don't regret it yet!

[Ladylethal 12]

justagirl and jonkam are the same poster...the same poster that was in the MENA forum awhile ago. Same writing style - she (I'm convinced it's a woman) would carry on conversations with herself that time as well.

Thanks Charles for giving this troll validity by saying they're legit.

Actually, the user Charles is talking about does seem legit, and the info in this user's posts and timelines match everything said here by the OP. I too believe he's legit.

[LaL 418]

im thoroughly confused.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

justagirl and jonkam are the same poster...the same poster that was in the MENA forum awhile ago. Same writing style - she (I'm convinced it's a woman) would carry on conversations with herself that time as well.

Thanks Charles for giving this troll validity by saying they're legit.

Actually, the user Charles is talking about does seem legit, and the info in this user's posts and timelines match everything said here by the OP. I too believe he's legit.

A clever ruse. This person has been posting on VJ for awhile.

[MKCT 0]

justagirl and jonkam are the same poster...the same poster that was in the MENA forum awhile ago. Same writing style - she (I'm convinced it's a woman) would carry on conversations with herself that time as well.

Thanks Charles for giving this troll validity by saying they're legit.

What's the purpose on talking to yourself...???

I'm sure they are different persons.....There are no trolls here.

--MIRLA.

[Magnolia31 0]

Nobody can say that for sure. It's possible and then again maybe it isn't. You can't say that without a doubt unless there is absolute proof. I believe in evidence and without it, you're innocent. Some of the speculations don't make sense. At this point he doesn't know where she is - she could have went to Arizona for whatever reason. Maybe she hitchhiked ... maybe she got picked up by a psycho. ANYthing is possible.

She tried to mother you to get here- ...some warm home made food, a little home made drinks, a cross arround the neck and some praying at night...some display of unending affection and lovey-dovey smooches, some talks about the highly purpose of having children after children etc...this trick never fails-it's the oldest one in the book and here you go-another one bites the bait and is left starring at the sun.This girl might be in her twenties but she knows what she's doin'---i guess you were right not reporting her missin' after all(she's all there:)).

If you "wee" that special? Are we speaking french now?

I forgot to add something to my post--the fake blood on the sheat she flonted in front of his mesmorising eyes. C'mon, a virgin...RU KIDDING ME? If you wee that special that she kept herself pure for her american in shining visa-sorry i ment armour--she'd be in the curch right now getting married TO YOU!!!

Edited August 28, 2007 by Magnolia31

[Magnolia31 0]

Don't listen to her. Right now you do NOT know what happened at all. Pure speculation with no concrete facts. For all you know, she went to Arizona and planned on returning back to you .. however, she didn't know it was unsafe to hitchhike here and got picked up by a psycho. You NEVER know. As bizarre as it sounds, at this point you just don't know.

Also, her feelings could have been real at the time. Some people are able to change feelings like a drop of the dime. Don't be so hard on yourself - maybe at one point in time her feelings were genuine! There is no way in hell that i would have come here on a K-1 visa, leave and become illegal eventually. I would have at least waited to lift conditions on my visa if i had intentions on leading someone on to get me to the US. <------errr, not my plan BTW! LOL

She tried to mother you to get here- ...some warm home made food, a little home made drinks, a cross arround the neck and some praying at night...some display of unending affection and lovey-dovey smooches, some talks about the highly purpose of having children after children etc...this trick never fails-it's the oldest one in the book and here you go-another one bites the bait and is left starring at the sun.This girl might be in her twenties but she knows what she's doin'---i guess you were right not reporting her missin' after all(she's all there:)).

Your analysis is quite good. It does seem that she did do something like this.

Thanks for pointing it out for me in such a nice way. I had NO idea until you came along that this is what she did. Thanks very much, without your insightful vision I would never have come to this realization. You are so smart, your parents must be very proud.

Women, experienced in the sack or not, know what men like and how to play them. All they gotta do is watch TV. If she was some feminist type, I wouldn’t have been with her in the first place. Damn, to think about it, every girl I’ve had a relationship with did most of these things. They all must have been playing me. I’ll be more careful in the future, the next woman that wants to make me a hot meal and bring a cold drink, or expresses a desire to have kids or is nice, I’ll kick her A$$ to the curb cause this is the oldest trick in the book.

Any guys out there in VJ land, I hope you read this. If your girl has done any of these things; you better dump her now, cause she’s only playing you. If she does nothing for you and is a b.tch, she’s a keeper.

[Magnolia31 0]

justagirl and jonkam are the same poster...the same poster that was in the MENA forum awhile ago. Same writing style - she (I'm convinced it's a woman) would carry on conversations with herself that time as well.

Thanks Charles for giving this troll validity by saying they're legit.

How do you figure they are the same person?