Some n00b questions...

[pushbrk 13,003]

Maybe I missed something but if your fiance(e) makes more than enough money to support the two of you then what is the sponsorship concern?

Yes, there seems to be a disconnect here, Mark. You, the foreign fiance, needs one qualified sponsor. If your fiancee earns over the required 125% of the appropriate poverty level, she's the sponsor. Current income is the most important. She does not have to meet the requirement all three years. She could have started a new permanent job recently, as long as the Consular officer believes the income is sustainable. Generally that is a pretty easy standard to meet if the job requires any skills at all.

[M4rinus 1]

Maybe I missed something but if your fiance(e) makes more than enough money to support the two of you then what is the sponsorship concern?

Yes, there seems to be a disconnect here, Mark. You, the foreign fiance, needs one qualified sponsor. If your fiancee earns over the required 125% of the appropriate poverty level, she's the sponsor. Current income is the most important. She does not have to meet the requirement all three years. She could have started a new permanent job recently, as long as the Consular officer believes the income is sustainable. Generally that is a pretty easy standard to meet if the job requires any skills at all.

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HUH !!??

This might need to be repeated back to me veeeeerrrryyy slowly ...

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She is a student.

Hopefully to graduate her triple major in december.

She does work about 35 hours right now but thats low income and partially not taxed.

She will get a good job soon and then she will probably be able to make enough to live up to the expectations.

From what Ive been told and thought I read and heard etc. Your supposed to have, or have a sponsor who has, an income of at least 125% of minimum wage, of which you payed tax over for the last 3 years or more.

(Can anyone from the USA tell me how much of an hourly wage that is anyway ? Consider a normal 40 hour week ?)

Isnt that what we need ?

Or maybe I misinterpreted what she told me, because thats why thats our main concern.

Either the problem is diffrent from what im telling you now, or she/we are worried for nothing ...

You also said : as long as the Consular believes the income is sustainable...

Will he ??

When will he ?

Is that an expectation or a certainty (more or less) because I want to play this as safe as I have in my power ...

[payxibka 10,047]

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From what Ive been told and thought I read and heard etc. Your supposed to have, or have a sponsor who has, an income of at least 125% of minimum wage, of which you payed tax over for the last 3 years or more.

Not necessarily true... this is consulate specific and many consulates only care about the latest year and/or current earnings capacity.... Is any information resident on this topic on the consulate website you will be interviewing at?

[M4rinus 1]

not as far as I could find so far... although the actual marriage in the US information page gave an error, so im not sure yet...

but you know how it goes with information. Everyone has an opinion or interpretation and eventually you miss the forest for the trees.

you guys are so helpful

i so so so so hope youre right about this because its our top concern, since I feel were not suspicious looking people and we actually have a relationship, etc.

Although I cant find ALL my plain tickets... and calling went through another service so her number doesnt show on my bills. ...

so is it true you shouldnt send more then 5 pictures ? or is that a more or less ?

And is there an example of the answer to Q18 of the I129F anywhere ?? because i tend to romanticise what i write versus what they might want : a summary.

[payxibka 10,047]

so is it true you shouldnt send more then 5 pictures ? or is that a more or less ?

And is there an example of the answer to Q18 of the I129F anywhere ?? because i tend to romanticise what i write versus what they might want : a summary.

Include as many pictures you think are needed to support your petition. This might be accomplished with only 1 or 2 pictures. It is your call.

Q18. We were introduced on the internet and shortly thereafter I travelled to Amsterdam during July 2006 where we met.

It can be that simple...

[M4rinus 1]

Q18. We were introduced on the internet and shortly thereafter I travelled to Amsterdam during July 2006 where we met.

It can be that simple...

:lol:

Its a little more 'hollywood romantic style' movie quality type story here. B)

its supposed to also state other times you 'met' right ?? like on trips and vacations etc ?

so they dont want our complete love-biography ?? they dont know what theyre missing I think...

[payxibka 10,047]

Q18. We were introduced on the internet and shortly thereafter I travelled to Amsterdam during July 2006 where we met.

It can be that simple...

:lol:

Its a little more 'hollywood romantic style' movie quality type story here. B)

its supposed to also state other times you 'met' right ?? like on trips and vacations etc ?

so they dont want our complete love-biography ?? they dont know what theyre missing I think...

I would wait and sell the movie rights to someone else rather than give it to the USCIS of free. I would simply be concise and factually accurate... nothing more nothing less.

[TracyTN 237]

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HUH !!??

This might need to be repeated back to me veeeeerrrryyy slowly ...

----

She is a student.

Hopefully to graduate her triple major in december.

She does work about 35 hours right now but thats low income and partially not taxed.

She will get a good job soon and then she will probably be able to make enough to live up to the expectations.

From what Ive been told and thought I read and heard etc. Your supposed to have, or have a sponsor who has, an income of at least 125% of minimum wage, of which you payed tax over for the last 3 years or more.

(Can anyone from the USA tell me how much of an hourly wage that is anyway ? Consider a normal 40 hour week ?)

Isnt that what we need ?

Or maybe I misinterpreted what she told me, because thats why thats our main concern.

Either the problem is diffrent from what im telling you now, or she/we are worried for nothing ...

You also said : as long as the Consular believes the income is sustainable...

Will he ??

When will he ?

Is that an expectation or a certainty (more or less) because I want to play this as safe as I have in my power ...

To be clear, the 'requirement' is not 125% of minimum wage, but rather 125% above the poverty level, which is shown here:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...p;#entry1102133

[M4rinus 1]

ok, that clears things up.

And that explains why i had a hard time finding this kind of overview.

Still means she will need a job that pays enough.

Now where could I go to figure out if we do or do not need an additional sponsor ?

Because in the dutch thread on these boards they say, for the K1 you dont even need to make 125% of poverty level, thats not untill after we are married and file for an AOS.

so still plenty of confusion there...

[payxibka 10,047]

Now where could I go to figure out if we do or do not need an additional sponsor ?

Because in the dutch thread on these boards they say, for the K1 you dont even need to make 125% of poverty level, thats not untill after we are married and file for an AOS.

so still plenty of confusion there...

No confusion. You will see 125% commonly suggested here on the board (because if you are at or above you should not have problems). However, there is no specific mandate for the 125% of the poverty level for a K-1 and I-134. This income thing like I said before, is consulate specific. The info in the Dutch thread in that regard is correct. Some consulates will accept 100%. Some consulates want 125%. Some consulates the number is something completely different. The best source is people who have gone before you or the consulate itself.

[TracyTN 237]

ok, that clears things up.

And that explains why i had a hard time finding this kind of overview.

Still means she will need a job that pays enough.

Now where could I go to figure out if we do or do not need an additional sponsor ?

Because in the dutch thread on these boards they say, for the K1 you dont even need to make 125% of poverty level, thats not untill after we are married and file for an AOS.

so still plenty of confusion there...

Editing cos I was basically repeating fwaguy.

The 125% above poverty level IS a requirement for AOS, so I think most folks try to meet the requirement for the K1 so that they won't have to worry about it again at AOS time.

So if your fiancee does not meet the 125% over the poverty line (which you can glean from the link above), then I'd start seriously looking to secure a cosponsor now - even though you don't 'technically' need it at the K1 stage.

Edited August 21, 2007 by TracyTN

[M4rinus 1]

oooooOK...

So that sounds positive... im still a little insecure about it, but I guess that will fade.

Although digging into the positivity of this information I did come to wonder the following :

I have to go to another interview after I got married.

This time with my SO.

Thats where you need need need the money thing to be in order.

Thats where you pay most money to date.

But does that mean that they can still deny me after I get my K1 and my money and my wedding in order ??

What kind of interview is it ?

Is it with bulldog officers that want you gone, like the kind you would get if you would enter as a tourist and then marry and stay ?

Or are they just nice people who are part of a formality ??

Also this is what I had so far for my I-129F Q18 :

In February 2005, Amy Robin Bakke was attending a DTS by Youth for Christ in Scotland for 6 months. There she met Rianne Alderliesten, a close friend of Marinus Arie Schot. After she left Schotland, at the end of July 2005, she went to the Netherlands to visit Rianne and her family. In those days she met Marinus. We immediatly fell in love. Amy was scheduled to leave the Netherlands a couple of days later. Marinus immediately booked a ticket to go and visit her for a week, October 14th - 22nd 2005. We called almost daily in the months prior to Marinus visit and have been doing so ever since. In the week of Marinus visit the relationship only grew stronger and soon after Marinus arrived back in the Netherlands, he booked another ticket to go and visit her again, February 11th - 25th 2006, this time for two weeks. That summer Amy came to visit Marinus in the Netherlands to meet his family and friends. In the 3 weeks she was visiting Marinus, July 18th - August 11th 2006, we also made a trip to Paris, France together. Marinus then visited Amy again for little over 2 weeks during Christmas and New Years , December 25th 2006 - January 11th 2007. Amy then visited Marinus again for 3 months, May 11th - August 9th 2007. That is when they've gotten engaged to be married in Venice, Italy; We went there while we were on a trip to Medulin, Croatia. He currently plans to visit Amy again for about a month, near the holidays, around December 2007 - January 2008.

Would something like that do ?

Too much ? Not enough ? Different ?

Edited August 22, 2007 by MarkSchot

[Krikit 1,165]

Waaaaaaaayyy too much information. Like fwaguy says, keep it short and to the point. Such as.... "Initially met in July 2005 during fiancée's visit to friends in the Netherlands."

[pushbrk 13,003]

oooooOK...

So that sounds positive... im still a little insecure about it, but I guess that will fade.

Although digging into the positivity of this information I did come to wonder the following :

I have to go to another interview after I got married.

This time with my SO.

Thats where you need need need the money thing to be in order.

Thats where you pay most money to date.

But does that mean that they can still deny me after I get my K1 and my money and my wedding in order ??

What kind of interview is it ?

Is it with bulldog officers that want you gone, like the kind you would get if you would enter as a tourist and then marry and stay ?

Or are they just nice people who are part of a formality ??

Also this is what I had so far for my I-129F Q18 :

In February 2005, Amy Robin Bakke was attending a DTS by Youth for Christ in Scotland for 6 months. There she met Rianne Alderliesten, a close friend of Marinus Arie Schot. After she left Schotland, at the end of July 2005, she went to the Netherlands to visit Rianne and her family. In those days she met Marinus. We immediatly fell in love. Amy was scheduled to leave the Netherlands a couple of days later. Marinus immediately booked a ticket to go and visit her for a week, October 14th - 22nd 2005. We called almost daily in the months prior to Marinus visit and have been doing so ever since. In the week of Marinus visit the relationship only grew stronger and soon after Marinus arrived back in the Netherlands, he booked another ticket to go and visit her again, February 11th - 25th 2006, this time for two weeks. That summer Amy came to visit Marinus in the Netherlands to meet his family and friends. In the 3 weeks she was visiting Marinus, July 18th - August 11th 2006, we also made a trip to Paris, France together. Marinus then visited Amy again for little over 2 weeks during Christmas and New Years , December 25th 2006 - January 11th 2007. Amy then visited Marinus again for 3 months, May 11th - August 9th 2007. That is when they've gotten engaged to be married in Venice, Italy; We went there while we were on a trip to Medulin, Croatia. He currently plans to visit Amy again for about a month, near the holidays, around December 2007 - January 2008.

Would something like that do ?

Too much ? Not enough ? Different ?

How about...

Introduced by mutual friend in (City) Month/Year and again in City/month/year and City/month/year as well as X# of times subsequently.

Then show evidence the two of your were in the same country on any dates you mention specifically. (You don't need evidence you were in your home country.) Only mention dates and places you can show evidence of. You need only show evidence of one meeting in the 24 months preceding the filing of the petition. Two or three is the maximum number of dates I would mention specifically.

Mark, It would do you a world of good to start by reading the "Guides". The picture would probably be much more clear to you with an overview as a starting point.

Edited August 22, 2007 by pushbrk

[M4rinus 1]

I did read the guides

and print them out

and underlined them

Its just ... I want to do this right

I wouldnt be able to live with myself if I would have been able to prevent a fatal mistake

Also al lot of the questions I asked have been answered, but the answered were as suspected contradictory with things that i already read diffrently somewhere else.

When it comes to the Q18 part

Arent you supposed to let them know how weve met over the past 2 years ??

Thats what I did, didnt I ?