Some n00b questions...

[M4rinus 1]

I know my first post is a new thread.

That is something im not used to doing, but before all my questions were answered in other peoples questions etc.

My name is Mark and Im 24 years old.

Im from the Netherlands and my fiancee is Amy, 23 years old and a US citizen.

Weve been together for over 2 years now and though I havent 'officially' popped the question, we are planning to get married.

Thats why Ive been digging into everything there is to know about the immigration process.

First I thought of entering as a tourist, but after reading around here and there, I decided that the K1 is the way to go.

Since its the honest way to go, and the most respectful one towards everyone here that shares their experience, of which I benefit so much.

Since it stresses her out a lot to deal with paperwork, etc, Im the one who figures the whole thing out for us.

I do get stuck in some details here and there, and although I wont ask them all at once, because I dont have my checklist with me, Ill ask them a little spread out.

The first questions I have are :

- My fiancee's full name is Amy Robin Faith Elisabeth Bakke

Do we put her third and fourth name in the additional name section on the forms ??

- I noticed some saying that the evidence has to be provided as a second step, after you sent in the I-129F package,

but this website states the collection of evidence WITH the package... what is true ??

(I get confused sometimes with what happens when in the process. Packages, checkups, forms, evidence, NOA's.

The flowchart is sort of TOO detailed for a brief description.)

- Is there also a G325A example form for the US citizen ? I could only find the foreign fiancee version on this site.

- The USCIS site AND the visajourney download of the I-129F form, give me a barcode error before showing the file, while opening.

Is that a problem ? Is that form not one I should use ?? I dont want to use an old, corrupted of sample form. I want to get this right straight away.

Sorry if you already answered these questions before.

Believe me, ive read hundreds of threads and pages here, and I did not come across these answers yet.

Mark

[Otto 83]

The first questions I have are :

- My fiancee's full name is Amy Robin Faith Elisabeth Bakke

Do we put her third and fourth name in the additional name section on the forms ??

Yes - List full names on forms where possible - list Amy as first,Robin as middle and of course Bakke as last whenever entire name is not possible.

- I noticed some saying that the evidence has to be provided as a second step, after you sent in the I-129F package,

but this website states the collection of evidence WITH the package... what is true ??

For the I-129f Petition there are two stages where evidence will be needed. Initially any evidence with the package has to do with both of your identities (birth certificates, passports, etc) and proof of having met in person in the last two years. Down the road, when the petition is approved and sent to the embassy/consulate, there is further evidence that is needed (besides your medical, and police certificate, etc) which has to do wit proof of on-going relationship.

(I get confused sometimes with what happens when in the process. Packages, checkups, forms, evidence, NOA's. The flowchart is sort of TOO detailed for a brief description.)

- Is there also a G325A example form for the US citizen ? I could only find the foreign fiancee version on this site.

There is only one G325A - it is for both of you - it's a biographical form, meaning you simply enter your/her information.

- The USCIS site AND the visajourney download of the I-129F form, give me a barcode error before showing the file, while opening.

Is that a problem ? Is that form not one I should use ?? I dont want to use an old, corrupted of sample form. I want to get this right straight away.

It's not a problem - the Download section is a link directly to the USCIS forms site, so they're the same form.

Sorry if you already answered these questions before.

Believe me, ive read hundreds of threads and pages here, and I did not come across these answers yet.

Mark

Hope this helps a little...

[M4rinus 1]

- My fiancee's full name is Amy Robin Faith Elisabeth Bakke

Do we put her third and fourth name in the additional name section on the forms ??

Yes - List full names on forms where possible - list Amy as first,Robin as middle and of course Bakke as last whenever entire name is not possible.

On the G325A it says : 'All other names used' Does that apply to this ?? Does that box require those other 2 names ??

Also my name on passport is Marinus Arie, but I go by Mark... does that count for this section as well ??

- I noticed some saying that the evidence has to be provided as a second step, after you sent in the I-129F package,

but this website states the collection of evidence WITH the package... what is true ??

For the I-129f Petition there are two stages where evidence will be needed. Initially any evidence with the package has to do with both of your identities (birth certificates, passports, etc) and proof of having met in person in the last two years. Down the road, when the petition is approved and sent to the embassy/consulate, there is further evidence that is needed (besides your medical, and police certificate, etc) which has to do wit proof of on-going relationship.

If that package only requires proof of having met, then why would I include the proof of an ongoing relationship ? Especially if Im going to send that later ? Should I send new material later, or can I apply the same stuff ?? Or do they not need it anymore at all then ??

- Is there also a G325A example form for the US citizen ? I could only find the foreign fiancee version on this site.

There is only one G325A - it is for both of you - it's a biographical form, meaning you simply enter your/her information.

So what do we fill in at the File number box and the heavy bordered box at the bottom ?? because that one states 'applicant' who of us is that ??

- The USCIS site AND the visajourney download of the I-129F form, give me a barcode error before showing the file, while opening.

Is that a problem ? Is that form not one I should use ?? I dont want to use an old, corrupted of sample form. I want to get this right straight away.

It's not a problem - the Download section is a link directly to the USCIS forms site, so they're the same form.

But it still gives me an error. How am I sure that they wont deny it despite it maybe being their fault

Additional questions in blue

Edited August 20, 2007 by MarkSchot

[M4rinus 1]

Also :

Did I miss the overview list of shortcuts somewhere ?

I'd expect it to be somewhere considering how complete this website is...

NOA = notice of action

RFE = Request for evidence

etc

But

SO = ??

EAD = ??

etc

complete list of all shortcuts anywhere ??

[Nagishkaw 510]

You can always order the forms by mail, which is what I did if you are not in a big hurry. It took about a week for them to arrive once I put in my order online.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...00048f3d6a1RCRD

[Otto 83]

Also :

Did I miss the overview list of shortcuts somewhere ?

I'd expect it to be somewhere considering how complete this website is...

NOA = notice of action

RFE = Request for evidence

etc

But

SO = ??

EAD = ??

etc

complete list of all shortcuts anywhere ??

Here you go...click HERE

[TracyTN 237]

Also :

Did I miss the overview list of shortcuts somewhere ?

I'd expect it to be somewhere considering how complete this website is...

NOA = notice of action

RFE = Request for evidence

etc

But

SO = ??

EAD = ??

etc

complete list of all shortcuts anywhere ??

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...page=definition

[Martin 0]

- My fiancee's full name is Amy Robin Faith Elisabeth Bakke

Do we put her third and fourth name in the additional name section on the forms ??

Yes - List full names on forms where possible - list Amy as first,Robin as middle and of course Bakke as last whenever entire name is not possible.

On the G325A it says : 'All other names used' Does that apply to this ?? Does that box require those other 2 names ??

Also my name on passport is Marinus Arie, but I go by Mark... does that count for this section as well ??

- I noticed some saying that the evidence has to be provided as a second step, after you sent in the I-129F package,

but this website states the collection of evidence WITH the package... what is true ??

For the I-129f Petition there are two stages where evidence will be needed. Initially any evidence with the package has to do with both of your identities (birth certificates, passports, etc) and proof of having met in person in the last two years. Down the road, when the petition is approved and sent to the embassy/consulate, there is further evidence that is needed (besides your medical, and police certificate, etc) which has to do wit proof of on-going relationship.

If that package only requires proof of having met, then why would I include the proof of an ongoing relationship ? Especially if Im going to send that later ? Should I send new material later, or can I apply the same stuff ?? Or do they not need it anymore at all then ??

- Is there also a G325A example form for the US citizen ? I could only find the foreign fiancee version on this site.

There is only one G325A - it is for both of you - it's a biographical form, meaning you simply enter your/her information.

So what do we fill in at the File number box and the heavy bordered box at the bottom ?? because that one states 'applicant' who of us is that ??

- The USCIS site AND the visajourney download of the I-129F form, give me a barcode error before showing the file, while opening.

Is that a problem ? Is that form not one I should use ?? I dont want to use an old, corrupted of sample form. I want to get this right straight away.

It's not a problem - the Download section is a link directly to the USCIS forms site, so they're the same form.

But it still gives me an error. How am I sure that they wont deny it despite it maybe being their fault

1) Yes, I will suggest you to put those names ( Faith Elisabeth and Mark ) on the section other names.

2) Ok, you will send your package with COPY of evidence of relationship from the past, boarding passes, pictures, letters, bills toether, whatever but those are copies. On the future you will go to an interview where you need to bring the same evidence that you sent before but the ORIGINALS AND evidence that the relationship has continue after you send the package I-129F.

3) I'm not 100% sure here but I think you have to leave that in blank. Have you checked the samples here at Visa Journey ?

4)About the barcode error, or you Acrobat Reades is too old, or there is something wrong whith you PC. I'll suggest you to reinstall the Acrobat Reader ( last version ) or try in a different PC.

Regards and Good Luck

Martin

[pushbrk 13,000]

The first questions I have are :

- My fiancee's full name is Amy Robin Faith Elisabeth Bakke

Do we put her third and fourth name in the additional name section on the forms ??

How is her name shown on her US Passport?

[rakkaus 0]

You can always order the forms by mail, which is what I did if you are not in a big hurry. It took about a week for them to arrive once I put in my order online.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...00048f3d6a1RCRD

Second that. BTW when I ordered mine, I asked for 2 copies of everything (so we'd have a practice copy) and this wasn't a problem. Of course you can also just print the form and use it the same way, as a template to gather info for the "real thing" (in case, like me, you had no idea about things like what little town your future in-laws were born in!)

[M4rinus 1]

Thanks everyone for all the help so far.

FYI : We hope to be ready to file them within the next say, 2 weeks tops (depending on how complete everything is)

So far no answer yet on the heavy bordered box in the G325A

The example filled it in though... so we still have plenty confusion there then.

I really think I do have the latest Adobe Reader... but ill check again

My fiancee had the same error...

On using paper versions to fill out.... does that mean we shouldnt fill it out digitally ??

Im having her check the exact name on the passport.

I am sure she signed it with almost all names : Amy Robin Faith Elisabeth ....

There is also Claire, but thats never officially stated, where the above all show on her birthcertificate, or so i was told.

I too have no idea where my inlaws were born.

But I am still not clear on the barcode problem ...

Im thinking : if the barcode turns out to be bad, then wont they try to scan it and deny it ???

So are the forms induvidual and the digital ones only for practice ??

[pushbrk 13,000]

Thanks everyone for all the help so far.

Im having her check the exact name on the passport.

I am sure she signed it with almost all names : Amy Robin Faith Elisabeth ....

There is also Claire, but thats never officially stated, where the above all show on her birthcertificate, or so i was told.

How she signed is not important. Signatures need not even be legible. I'm asking how her name is printed on the passport. Generally, the family name is show and then given name. Which and how many given names are printed on the passport? The answer would be critical to how to proceed.

[M4rinus 1]

all i can say is that Ive sent her an email with the question(s)

and she hasnt responded yet

I know she has to work today so she will check her email today,

however she first has to go to school so it might take her a couple of hours to answer me.

...

In the meantime Ill be selling my piano today ... (i hope... pray for me ! ) and that will get me all the money i need for this entire process... visa proces... not the ring and ceremony yet, but im working on that part.

Ill also be digging into my papers for my tickets and ittinaries, etc.

[M4rinus 1]

another quick weird question...

Im conflicted about what to fill out at citizenship/nationality on the forms (G325A).

Here's why : I live in the Netherlands. Thats the country. But I know the language and the people are commonly called : dutch. So do I fill out : Netherlands? or Dutch? Or neither ?

And what about mother ? Mine died almost 10 years ago.

Do I still fill in her data ??

Oh and unfortunately I didnt sell my piano yet.

So I dont have the money yet.

Wednesday he'll come back to decide...

Edited August 20, 2007 by MarkSchot

[pushbrk 13,000]

another quick weird question...

Im conflicted about what to fill out at citizenship/nationality on the forms (G325A).

Here's why : I live in the Netherlands. Thats the country. But I know the language and the people are commonly called : dutch. So do I fill out : Netherlands? or Dutch? Or neither ?

And what about mother ? Mine died almost 10 years ago.

Do I still fill in her data ??

Oh and unfortunately I didnt sell my piano yet.

So I dont have the money yet.

Wednesday he'll come back to decide...

I think either would work on the nationality but I would choose "Netherlands" because I take it that's on the passport.

Yes, you fill in the mother's data. In place of current residence you put "deceased" or deceased (year)