Interview Casablanca 8/15 refused!!!!

[CoCo1020 0]

My sweetie had his interview today with the blond woman. He arrived at 7:30 and his interview was between 10:30 and 11:30 . He said that people were not called in order of arrival.

The blond woman started speaking arabic, but my smart sweetie said hello and continued in English. He says he understood all the questions.

WHo is the petitioner?

How old?

Does the age difference bother you?25 years!!!

When did she get divorced?

WHy?

WHen did you start chatting ?

What chat group?

How many kids?

How old?

Have you met them? He told the truth that he has only talked online and on the phone with my youngest daughter. The others live on their own, and they don't worry too much about my life:they are happy if i am happy and that's what my SO said.

What job does she have?

Where is she from?

Where has she lived?

She asked about my 3 trips to morocco. WHen and for how long

SHe looked at all the 56 photos SHe looked at them very well

She read parts of our chats and emails.

WHen my honey tried to give her more she said enough, enough. He says he had 1000 pages, but i would say about 300.

It lasted about 20 mins. He said others were there for 2-3 minutes but he was there for a long time. i really don't know if that is good or bad.

She was very respectful. Called him"sir", he was impressed.

He says he understood all the questions and answered them correctly.

At the end she gave him refusal paper It says XXXX was refused on 8/15/2007 under 221(g) because SAO donkey.

She said papers will go to Washington and in a month they are going to call him.

Can anybody tell me if we should be celebrating or crying?

My sweetie is very sad and thiks this is final, but I am trying to convince him that it is because of security checks, and that now we have to wait for them to clear.

I don't think they question validity of relationship or she would have written that instead of SAO Donkey ( at first I thought it was a joke). I just found out that they do it in Pakistan to everybody, but I had never heard that they did it in Morocco

Please, tell me that all we have to do is wait for security clearance.

ANother question what about NOA2 isn't it good for 4 months? WHat happens if we don't hear from them before the 4 months are over?

Thank you, and I hope this helps those waiting for their interviews.

Sara

[*JG* 2]

Oh, I'm so sorry. I don't know the answer to your questions, though. Just wanted to tell you I feel for you.

Ironically, my SO was asked almost the identical questions yours was asked. Gave me chills to read your description too. So eerily identical.

[tnh9479 1]

SAO Donkey

It is a type of security check. Read this page.

[Malarie 0]

My sweetie had his interview today with the blond woman. He arrived at 7:30 and his interview was between 10:30 and 11:30 . He said that people were not called in order of arrival.

The blond woman started speaking arabic, but my smart sweetie said hello and continued in English. He says he understood all the questions.

WHo is the petitioner?

How old?

Does the age difference bother you?25 years!!!

When did she get divorced?

WHy?

WHen did you start chatting ?

What chat group?

How many kids?

How old?

Have you met them? He told the truth that he has only talked online and on the phone with my youngest daughter. The others live on their own, and they don't worry too much about my life:they are happy if i am happy and that's what my SO said.

What job does she have?

Where is she from?

Where has she lived?

She asked about my 3 trips to morocco. WHen and for how long

SHe looked at all the 56 photos SHe looked at them very well

She read parts of our chats and emails.

WHen my honey tried to give her more she said enough, enough. He says he had 1000 pages, but i would say about 300.

It lasted about 20 mins. He said others were there for 2-3 minutes but he was there for a long time. i really don't know if that is good or bad.

She was very respectful. Called him"sir", he was impressed.

He says he understood all the questions and answered them correctly.

At the end she gave him refusal paper It says XXXX was refused on 8/15/2007 under 221(g) because SAO donkey.

She said papers will go to Washington and in a month they are going to call him.

Can anybody tell me if we should be celebrating or crying?

My sweetie is very sad and thiks this is final, but I am trying to convince him that it is because of security checks, and that now we have to wait for them to clear.

I don't think they question validity of relationship or she would have written that instead of SAO Donkey ( at first I thought it was a joke). I just found out that they do it in Pakistan to everybody, but I had never heard that they did it in Morocco

Please, tell me that all we have to do is wait for security clearance.

ANother question what about NOA2 isn't it good for 4 months? WHat happens if we don't hear from them before the 4 months are over?

Thank you, and I hope this helps those waiting for their interviews.

Sara

Sara....

HI - what exactly did the 221g say? My husband interviewed on June 28th and we are currently in security name checks waiting for them to finish..... he was also given a paper -- 221g not checked but the OTHER box checked -- saying that his case required additional processing ...... then from phone calls and help from my congressman I did confirm that all is good and we are only waiting for security checks....

Did your SO ask if he did ok in the interview?

If you are questioning shoot off an email to Casa asking them to confirm the outcome and exactly what is happening... cant hurt!

Good Luck!!

Malarie

[mybackpages 0]

Everyone approved or denied is given the 221g. It does look like a denial, but most of the time it means only security checks.

I have never heard of SOA donkey....never. Usually in Morocco it says in english or french checks going on in washington. sometimes they even forget to write that.

Have you seen a scanned copy? SOA donkey is very odd.

but if she said to him security checks and they will call him, its not a returned petion and its just security checks.

[mybackpages 0]

SAO Donkey

It is a type of security check. Read this page.

Thanks Twila!

A guick google after I hit reply pulled up the same info- a security check.

[peezey 0]

Search the document for "donkey"

U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual Volume 9 - Visas

b. You must submit a SAO Donkey request if any doubts exist regarding an

applicant’s eligibility on security grounds.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Might be a name hit.

[LaL 418]

one of the four clearances ordered on my husband was a "Donkey" and "Mantis" due to his career.

(this is not a name hit, that would be a Condor, which we also had as well .)

Edited August 15, 2007 by LaL

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

one of the four clearances ordered on my husband was a "Donkey" and "Mantis" due to his career.

(this is not a name hit, that would be a Condor, which we also had as well .)

So "Donkey" is about a person's career or specific training ?

[LaL 418]

one of the four clearances ordered on my husband was a "Donkey" and "Mantis" due to his career.

(this is not a name hit, that would be a Condor, which we also had as well .)

So "Donkey" is about a person's career or specific training ?

I don't know all the specifics/ins & outs about it all anymore, but this may be the reason the checks were able to be stopped in our case. The check - (sorry I don't know which one) that was holding everything up was ordered erroneously.

ETA : but it is based on the TAL (technological alert list)

Edited August 15, 2007 by LaL

[peezey 0]

Mantis is based on TAL but not Donkey.

[CoCo1020 0]

my fiance is a school teacher at a rural school in the middle of nowhere.

Maybe it is his name. Although he has a girl's name (lol), but his middle name is Hassan. I am trying to attach the picture of the paper they gave him but i can't. It keeps uploading and never stops. Any help? I'll try to make it smaller

[mybackpages 0]

try using something like photobucket to put the image in VJ. its easier than uploading directly here IMO

So it does sound like an approval based on clearing certain security checks....i wonder if the donkey is used in casa, but no one was ever told which speciifc check was being done. I think this is the time you just need to find a lot of patience and hold on to the reality that the visa was approved (and thats the really scary part the interview).

Hope it is a speedy journey to visa in hand.

[CoCo1020 0]

Sara....

HI - what exactly did the 221g say? My husband interviewed on June 28th and we are currently in security name checks waiting for them to finish..... he was also given a paper -- 221g not checked but the OTHER box checked -- saying that his case required additional processing ...... then from phone calls and help from my congressman I did confirm that all is good and we are only waiting for security checks....

Did your SO ask if he did ok in the interview?

If you are questioning shoot off an email to Casa asking them to confirm the outcome and exactly what is happening... cant hurt!

Good Luck!!

Malarie

Now that I am looking at this paper, I see that it is a refusal worksheet for office use only. maybe they order SAO donkeys on a lot of people, but they give them a different paper, not a worksheet for office use only. Now I wonder what will happen if she gave my fiance the wrong paper.

No luck with photobucket, I'll keep trying