Immigration Activist to Leave Sanctuary

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I think that very recent events have impressively shown that there are significantly more Americans that can identify with Lisa's argument than with your's or Steven's. For the illegal crowd, your statement may apply. That crowd doesn't matter, though.

i think you are missing the point Steve, I, and others have tried to make. To try to summarize the situation: the lady is here illegally? yes. does she have any right to advocate change that would help her situation? (here some of say yes and other say no). just because some feel she has no right to do so doe not mean she cannot do so. Not too hard. unless you get stuck on the 'what part of illegal dont you understand' logic.

Steve's point has been that the law ought not to be applied in a black-and-white kind of way but that mitigating circumstances ought to be considered. He refuses to take note that the latter has occured as this lady has already been afforded due process. As a result of that process, it has been determined that she needs to leave. Not too hard. Unless you get stuck on the 'lawful orders issued as a result of due process do not apply to illegals that would rather stay' logic.

As I said before, court decisions can and do get overturned. I don't know the exact circumstances surrounding her deportation, but it happened as a sweep under national security right after 9/11, when she was doing janitorial work at the airport. Unless you can find information on her case, neither of us know whether her case was brought before a court which decided to deport her or whether she was automatically deported. As I stated before, I don't know whether she is justified in her actions or not because I don't know all the circumstances and neither do you, but based on the facts that you know, you believe she should be automatically deported, and I've said that a court should consider all the circumstances, particularly her 8 yr. old son, as to whether to deport her or not. It's really pointless to carry this argument out any further than that.

She has a conviction. That suggests she's been subject to court proceedings. She received a lawful order to surrender to immigration authorites and has chosen to ignore the order. Contrary to what you seem to believe, all I have been saying here is that she ought to respect the lawful order that a court has issued as a result of due process. Although she certainly appears to think so, she ain't above the law. Nor should she be.

[texas_bunny 0]

This is only my opinion.

I find it very hard to sympathise with someone who has intentionally broken US law. It is hard to understand how someone can have a cliam to live in the US just because her son is a USC. If parents are allowed to gain US residency/citizenship based on having a child who is a USC, I am 100% sure that this would encourage a larger influx of immigrants into the US who then have kids here. ( Is there some law out there that relates to this type of situation?)

Why don't the persons who are providing her sanctuary, provide support for new LEGAL residents in the US, esepcially when dealing with issues of getting a SSN, driver's license etc.

I fully acknowledge the contribution of this immigrant to the US economy....but an illegal immigrant working in an airport....can someone please say SECURITY RISK!!!!!

I do hope that in the end that this mother is not separated from her child.

[Addie_Goodvibes 0]

In case you haven't heard

Ice Removes Criminal Alien Elvira Arellano

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement announced today that a criminal fugitive alien who spent a year seeking to elude federal capture inside a Chicago church has been deported to Mexico following her arrest by ICE here yesterday afternoon.

"Identifying, arresting, and removing criminal aliens and immigration fugitives - aliens who have ignored court orders to leave the country - is one of ICE's top enforcement priorities, Just because the woman has gone public and made an issue of the fact that she is defying law doesn't mean the government doesn't have to do its job," said Ira Mehlman of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, which favors limits on immigration.

It is good to see enforcement although it s long over due!

[E&R4ever 6]

This is only my opinion.

I find it very hard to sympathise with someone who has intentionally broken US law. It is hard to understand how someone can have a cliam to live in the US just because her son is a USC. If parents are allowed to gain US residency/citizenship based on having a child who is a USC, I am 100% sure that this would encourage a larger influx of immigrants into the US who then have kids here. ( Is there some law out there that relates to this type of situation?)

Why don't the persons who are providing her sanctuary, provide support for new LEGAL residents in the US, esepcially when dealing with issues of getting a SSN, driver's license etc.

I fully acknowledge the contribution of this immigrant to the US economy....but an illegal immigrant working in an airport....can someone please say SECURITY RISK!!!!!

I do hope that in the end that this mother is not separated from her child.

Just read this whole thread and wanted to add to it a little ( sorry). Going through the K-1 process with my spouse made this hit home. I don't agree with folks crossing the border and living here illegally. It's funny that in our applications there were questions eluding to the criminal intent and backround of the applicants ( I am quite certain no one Sponser would advise their Petitioner to enter the USA illegally- we all know what consequences that would present if one is caught like this lady ). If one does ADVOCATE that to their Petitioner, then it is their choice in establishing this type of negative relationship with Homeland Security/ICE. I feel no sympathy for her ( and others here illegally ) because they have chosen this path for themselves and family.

Concerning her son ( I am not picking on him ), I hope his mom has signed her affidavit of support for him like I had to for my spouse and stepson. Hopefully she did get those physical exams, fees, biometrics, etc. taken care of before she left. It's just too bad the fees went up recently ( she could have taken advantage of the cheaper price mmmmm maybe before he was born?? ) Sorry I could not help it.

I would not call her an advocate, but she could advocate all she wants where she is, especially the right's of the illiegal immigrants crossing the south of her border ( I know Mexico deports illegal aliens back to their countries ). Have a good Labor Day!

[almaty 19]

she did not have to sign a thing..the youngster is an american citizen like you and me....................