The Birth Certificate and the Cenomar

[Pineapple 0]

HELLO EVERYBODY GOOD MORNING!

I have already my BIRTH CERTIFICATE from the NSO and also the CENOMAR and there is no problem with that since i have already my passport since i'm working overseas ! I just i want to make it sure and know if do i have to go to MALACANANG FOR AUTHENTICATION AND TO GET ALSO A READ RIBBON SEALED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF FOREIGN AFFAIR , And also the US Embassy required the K1 fiancee applicant the up dated certified true copy of the BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND THE CENOMAR so far guys thats all for my questions ...

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR RESPONSE TO MY QUESTIONS MORE POWER !!!

GOD BLESS

PINEAPPLE

[Dakine 26]

HELLO EVERYBODY GOOD MORNING!

I have already my BIRTH CERTIFICATE from the NSO and also the CENOMAR and there is no problem with that since i have already my passport since i'm working overseas ! I just i want to make it sure and know if do i have to go to MALACANANG FOR AUTHENTICATION AND TO GET ALSO A READ RIBBON SEALED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF FOREIGN AFFAIR , And also the US Embassy required the K1 fiancee applicant the up dated certified true copy of the BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND THE CENOMAR so far guys thats all for my questions ...

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR RESPONSE TO MY QUESTIONS MORE POWER !!!

GOD BLESS

PINEAPPLE

No need MALACANANG FOR AUTHENTICATION or TO GET A RED RIBBON SEALED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF FOREIGN AFFAIR for K1 visa.

Good to have updated CENOMAR tho.

Just so you BC is original on NSO Secpa no need updated either. Good to have additional copies as you may need them in the US later.

Be sure you have police clearance from the country you worked in if you were there for more than 6 months.

[jom 4]

You are good to go. A recent CENOMAR is advisable though. Get one a week before your interview. CENOMAR's now are easy to get, one day from request and its there. Yes, obtain lots of copies for future use in the US when you are already there .

[Biscuit 0]

Sis No need for Red Ribbon or authentication from Malacanang. Make sure to get a recent copy of CENOMAR 2 weeks before ur interview.

[lirachadsbaby 0]

HELLO EVERYBODY GOOD MORNING!

I have already my BIRTH CERTIFICATE from the NSO and also the CENOMAR and there is no problem with that since i have already my passport since i'm working overseas ! I just i want to make it sure and know if do i have to go to MALACANANG FOR AUTHENTICATION AND TO GET ALSO A READ RIBBON SEALED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF FOREIGN AFFAIR , And also the US Embassy required the K1 fiancee applicant the up dated certified true copy of the BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND THE CENOMAR so far guys thats all for my questions ...

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR RESPONSE TO MY QUESTIONS MORE POWER !!!

GOD BLESS

PINEAPPLE

no need for malacanang's authentication.

[Jasman0717 9]

Unless Manila has changed their policy they will not accept a CENOMAR from the beneficiary as proof of not being married. If the embassy believes they need to validate that the beneficiary isn't married they will request one. This has to do with document fraud in the RP.

[garya505 2]

Unless Manila has changed their policy they will not accept a CENOMAR from the beneficiary as proof of not being married. If the embassy believes they need to validate that the beneficiary isn't married they will request one. This has to do with document fraud in the RP.

That explains why they never asked my fiancee for her CENOMAR, which surprized me. My fiancee (now my wife of course) pointed out that they probably felt no need to get it since her current legal name matched her name on her BC, and in the Phils a woman's name is always changed when she marries so will not match her BC unless she gets an annulment (in which case she is single again). Makes sense I guess.

[Dakine 26]

Unless Manila has changed their policy they will not accept a CENOMAR from the beneficiary as proof of not being married. If the embassy believes they need to validate that the beneficiary isn't married they will request one. This has to do with document fraud in the RP.

Sad but true in most cases.

Seems they tend to do their own CENOMAR checks on older women and woman with children more often which is understandable do to the difficulties associated getting an annulment in RP for the average pinay.

I know having one used to be suggested in the requirements and it's normally no biggy to get one and may as well get one and not be concerned not having one.

[garya505 2]

Unless Manila has changed their policy they will not accept a CENOMAR from the beneficiary as proof of not being married. If the embassy believes they need to validate that the beneficiary isn't married they will request one. This has to do with document fraud in the RP.

Sad but true in most cases.

Seems they tend to do their own CENOMAR checks on older women and woman with children more often which is understandable do to the difficulties associated getting an annulment in RP for the average pinay.

I know having one used to be suggested in the requirements and it's normally no biggy to get one and may as well get one and not be concerned not having one.

I personally know of one married woman who changed her name and got a new NSO BC and CENOMAR in her new name. Now she's single!!!

If she gets a K-1 interview do you think they will catch her?

[Skeeter211 2]

Unless Manila has changed their policy they will not accept a CENOMAR from the beneficiary as proof of not being married. If the embassy believes they need to validate that the beneficiary isn't married they will request one. This has to do with document fraud in the RP.

Sad but true in most cases.

Seems they tend to do their own CENOMAR checks on older women and woman with children more often which is understandable do to the difficulties associated getting an annulment in RP for the average pinay.

I know having one used to be suggested in the requirements and it's normally no biggy to get one and may as well get one and not be concerned not having one.

I personally know of one married woman who changed her name and got a new NSO BC and CENOMAR in her new name. Now she's single!!!

If she gets a K-1 interview do you think they will catch her?

Maybe....maybe not, but I don't think its worth the chance of a life-time ban for fraud.

Scott (and Mirasol)

[garya505 2]

Unless Manila has changed their policy they will not accept a CENOMAR from the beneficiary as proof of not being married. If the embassy believes they need to validate that the beneficiary isn't married they will request one. This has to do with document fraud in the RP.

Sad but true in most cases.

Seems they tend to do their own CENOMAR checks on older women and woman with children more often which is understandable do to the difficulties associated getting an annulment in RP for the average pinay.

I know having one used to be suggested in the requirements and it's normally no biggy to get one and may as well get one and not be concerned not having one.

I personally know of one married woman who changed her name and got a new NSO BC and CENOMAR in her new name. Now she's single!!!

If she gets a K-1 interview do you think they will catch her?

Maybe....maybe not, but I don't think its worth the chance of a life-time ban for fraud.

Scott (and Mirasol)

I agree. I think she should have done whatever was necessary to get an annulment, but you know, people are always trying to take the easiest path, risky or not.

[lovda_pi 0]

What does CENOMAR stand for or what is it exactly, When i ask my fiancee she does not understand what Im asking about, or if she needs to get it. I have never heard of it until i read ppl talking about on this board.

Thanks

C

[garya505 2]

What does CENOMAR stand for or what is it exactly, When i ask my fiancee she does not understand what Im asking about, or if she needs to get it. I have never heard of it until i read ppl talking about on this board.

Thanks

C

CENOMAR = CErtificate of NOn MARriage

It's a good idea to get one, even though it may never be needed.

[Dakine 26]

I personally know of one married woman who changed her name and got a new NSO BC and CENOMAR in her new name. Now she's single!!!

If she gets a K-1 interview do you think they will catch her?

Depends on how she went about changing her name.

If she did a late BC registration to change her name there's a good chance USEM will question it and investigate it.

If they don't she has a chance making it all the way.

Big risk but maybe worth it as LOTS of pinay can't afford an annulment anyway in RP and a 10 year or lifetime ban wouldn't be a biggy.

Their only other chance may be if they get lucky and hook up a foreigner that is willing to sponsor the annulment!

Happens now and then.

Edited August 16, 2007 by beckypua

[Pineapple 0]

HELLO EVERYBODY GOOD MORNING!

I have already my BIRTH CERTIFICATE from the NSO and also the CENOMAR and there is no problem with that since i have already my passport since i'm working overseas ! I just i want to make it sure and know if do i have to go to MALACANANG FOR AUTHENTICATION AND TO GET ALSO A READ RIBBON SEALED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF FOREIGN AFFAIR , And also the US Embassy required the K1 fiancee applicant the up dated certified true copy of the BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND THE CENOMAR so far guys thats all for my questions ...

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR RESPONSE TO MY QUESTIONS MORE POWER !!!

GOD BLESS

PINEAPPLE

hello beckypua,

Thank you so much for your ideas you shared it to me i appreciated a lot count on you!!!

GOD BLESS YOU AND GOOD LUCK

PINEAPPLE