What if my fiance doesn't know something?

[TinTin and Samby 11]

As your teaching was more than 5 years ago, its not needed on the form.

Most USC's answer the "last occupation abroad (if not listed above)" question with 'none' - unless they indeed had employment abroad within the last 5 years (in which case, it is already listed 'above' on the form, and not needed again).

I don't beleive that is acccurate. My understanding is that the last work ourside the USA ("abroad" for a USC), if any, regardless of the number of years that have passed.

Perhaps one of the VJ experts can weigh in on this? Thanks!

It was the foreign fiance that worked in Japan. Her last employment abroad is her current or most recent employment. If we were talking about a USC working abroad, you would be absolutely correct.

Thanks. If you reread, you will see that I actually did distinguish the relevant rule for both scenarios - the USC Petitioner and the Beneficiary (who is the subject of the OPs original request).

From my post above:

if the USC Petitioner *EVER* worked outside the USA (ie "abroad") - regardless if that was more than 5 years ago - , they are required to list the last such position in the "supplemental" section, unless it is already listed in the "main" section.

regarding the OP's Beneficiary, even if she is not 'technically' required to list her Japan employment on the G-325a, she WILL be required to have a Police Clearance issued from Japan if she was there for 6 months or more subsequent to turning 14 years of age.

[pushbrk 13,172]

As your teaching was more than 5 years ago, its not needed on the form.

Most USC's answer the "last occupation abroad (if not listed above)" question with 'none' - unless they indeed had employment abroad within the last 5 years (in which case, it is already listed 'above' on the form, and not needed again).

I don't beleive that is acccurate. My understanding is that the last work ourside the USA ("abroad" for a USC), if any, regardless of the number of years that have passed.

Perhaps one of the VJ experts can weigh in on this? Thanks!

It was the foreign fiance that worked in Japan. Her last employment abroad is her current or most recent employment. If we were talking about a USC working abroad, you would be absolutely correct.

Thanks. If you reread, you will see that I actually did distinguish the relevant rule for both scenarios - the USC Petitioner and the Beneficiary (who is the subject of the OPs original request).

From my post above:

if the USC Petitioner *EVER* worked outside the USA (ie "abroad") - regardless if that was more than 5 years ago - , they are required to list the last such position in the "supplemental" section, unless it is already listed in the "main" section.

regarding the OP's Beneficiary, even if she is not 'technically' required to list her Japan employment on the G-325a, she WILL be required to have a Police Clearance issued from Japan if she was there for 6 months or more subsequent to turning 14 years of age.

It was not addressed in the post to which I responded. I didn't notice who said what before that post. It is still true that most USC's answer the question with "none" but if they ever had an occupation abroad, the last one is required to be listed. What a small subset must doesn't invalidate what most correctly do.

[TracyTN 237]

As your teaching was more than 5 years ago, its not needed on the form.

Most USC's answer the "last occupation abroad (if not listed above)" question with 'none' - unless they indeed had employment abroad within the last 5 years (in which case, it is already listed 'above' on the form, and not needed again).

I don't beleive that is acccurate. My understanding is that the last work ourside the USA ("abroad" for a USC), if any, regardless of the number of years that have passed.

Perhaps one of the VJ experts can weigh in on this? Thanks!

Hmm. I think you're right. I opened the G 325a - thinking there were instructions with it to provide guidance on this subject, but there aren't any.

So I think the question as stated on the form indeed means whether or not the work abroad was 5 or 10 years ago - it says to list the last occupation abroad (if not stated above). So if I were a USCer who had taught ESL abroad, I would indeed list it there -- if I couldn't exactly remember the employer, I'd put 'employer unknown, see supplement' and then explain on a supplemental form that you know when and where it was (give the dates/location) but cannot remember the name of the firm that employed you.

I thought that the 'within the last 5 years' applied to ALL employment, including overseas employment. But that isn't how the form reads.

See - this is why I like coming back to threads I posted in and reading subsequent responses. Thank you!!!

[TinTin and Samby 11]

As your teaching was more than 5 years ago, its not needed on the form.

Most USC's answer the "last occupation abroad (if not listed above)" question with 'none' - unless they indeed had employment abroad within the last 5 years (in which case, it is already listed 'above' on the form, and not needed again).

I don't beleive that is acccurate. My understanding is that the last work ourside the USA ("abroad" for a USC), if any, regardless of the number of years that have passed.

Perhaps one of the VJ experts can weigh in on this? Thanks!

It was the foreign fiance that worked in Japan. Her last employment abroad is her current or most recent employment. If we were talking about a USC working abroad, you would be absolutely correct.

Thanks. If you reread, you will see that I actually did distinguish the relevant rule for both scenarios - the USC Petitioner and the Beneficiary (who is the subject of the OPs original request).

From my post above:

if the USC Petitioner *EVER* worked outside the USA (ie "abroad") - regardless if that was more than 5 years ago - , they are required to list the last such position in the "supplemental" section, unless it is already listed in the "main" section.

regarding the OP's Beneficiary, even if she is not 'technically' required to list her Japan employment on the G-325a, she WILL be required to have a Police Clearance issued from Japan if she was there for 6 months or more subsequent to turning 14 years of age.

It was not addressed in the post to which I responded. I didn't notice who said what before that post. It is still true that most USC's answer the question with "none" but if they ever had an occupation abroad, the last one is required to be listed. What a small subset must doesn't invalidate what most correctly do.

Huh??? Just feeling argumentative today or what?

[TinTin and Samby 11]

As your teaching was more than 5 years ago, its not needed on the form.

Most USC's answer the "last occupation abroad (if not listed above)" question with 'none' - unless they indeed had employment abroad within the last 5 years (in which case, it is already listed 'above' on the form, and not needed again).

I don't beleive that is acccurate. My understanding is that the last work ourside the USA ("abroad" for a USC), if any, regardless of the number of years that have passed.

Perhaps one of the VJ experts can weigh in on this? Thanks!

Hmm. I think you're right. I opened the G 325a - thinking there were instructions with it to provide guidance on this subject, but there aren't any.

So I think the question as stated on the form indeed means whether or not the work abroad was 5 or 10 years ago - it says to list the last occupation abroad (if not stated above). So if I were a USCer who had taught ESL abroad, I would indeed list it there -- if I couldn't exactly remember the employer, I'd put 'employer unknown, see supplement' and then explain on a supplemental form that you know when and where it was (give the dates/location) but cannot remember the name of the firm that employed you.

I thought that the 'within the last 5 years' applied to ALL employment, including overseas employment. But that isn't how the form reads.

See - this is why I like coming back to threads I posted in and reading subsequent responses. Thank you!!!

Yep..me too! I certainly do learn more each day I come here...even if I have to sift through a lot of other people's attitude baggage to learn it. But, it's all good..that's the price of learning. Take care!

[pushbrk 13,172]

As your teaching was more than 5 years ago, its not needed on the form.

Most USC's answer the "last occupation abroad (if not listed above)" question with 'none' - unless they indeed had employment abroad within the last 5 years (in which case, it is already listed 'above' on the form, and not needed again).

I don't beleive that is acccurate. My understanding is that the last work ourside the USA ("abroad" for a USC), if any, regardless of the number of years that have passed.

Perhaps one of the VJ experts can weigh in on this? Thanks!

It was the foreign fiance that worked in Japan. Her last employment abroad is her current or most recent employment. If we were talking about a USC working abroad, you would be absolutely correct.

Thanks. If you reread, you will see that I actually did distinguish the relevant rule for both scenarios - the USC Petitioner and the Beneficiary (who is the subject of the OPs original request).

From my post above:

if the USC Petitioner *EVER* worked outside the USA (ie "abroad") - regardless if that was more than 5 years ago - , they are required to list the last such position in the "supplemental" section, unless it is already listed in the "main" section.

regarding the OP's Beneficiary, even if she is not 'technically' required to list her Japan employment on the G-325a, she WILL be required to have a Police Clearance issued from Japan if she was there for 6 months or more subsequent to turning 14 years of age.

It was not addressed in the post to which I responded. I didn't notice who said what before that post. It is still true that most USC's answer the question with "none" but if they ever had an occupation abroad, the last one is required to be listed. What a small subset must doesn't invalidate what most correctly do.

Huh??? Just feeling argumentative today or what?

No, sorry. Just getting half the meaning of your post, even on the second read.

[Kotenochek 0]

I went through interview yesterday and they did not care that stuff at all.they just asked what is my profession and job now.I dont think they check things like that.All they want to see is the person does some smart job,they want new citizens to be educated..when i said i am a lawyer he loved it..So i dont think it might be a problem that you dont remember previous jobs..someone commented about police record.True i also advice to get it if needed from other countries,because it takes some time..

[pushbrk 13,172]

I went through interview yesterday and they did not care that stuff at all.they just asked what is my profession and job now.I dont think they check things like that.All they want to see is the person does some smart job,they want new citizens to be educated..when i said i am a lawyer he loved it..So i dont think it might be a problem that you dont remember previous jobs..someone commented about police record.True i also advice to get it if needed from other countries,because it takes some time..

They are going to care about whatever they decide they are going to care about. You can bet your britches that if either the beneficiary or petitioner's last occupation abroad was Nuclear Physicist in Iran, they'll care. You just answer the questions accurately. The discussion is about how to do so.

[mrsaright 0]

Hiya,

I just found these posts and they're really helpful, seeing as me (petitioner) and my husband (beneficiary) will be filling out the G325a and both of us has worked abroad in the last 5 years. Our situation, however, has nothing to do with being a nuclear physicist in Iran. On the contrary, I was working in and out of restaurants and cafe's in New Zealand on a working Holiday visa, and my husband was a mechanic in New Zealand.

I read, though, in my passport that if I didn't have residence in New Zealand then technically I should have claimed my New Zealand income in the U.S. for tax purposes--which I only found out a few months after I left New Zealand. So, the question here is, will I be caught for "tax evasion" if they see that I've listed overseas employers and haven't claimed any of that income in the US? Or should I just list my overseas employers even though I haven't claimed my income from them?

As for my husband, he worked illegally in New Zealand, but nothing was ever proved and he left of his own accord. Will we run into problems if my husband lists his employment in New Zealand? He lived there 2 years and worked illegally for virtually the whole time. But from what I understand from the above, it's not so important for the beneficiary to list all of the overseas employment... did i get that right? As someone said above, they'll care about whatever they choose to care about, so I would like to avoid any wrinkles.

[anka 1]

I went through interview yesterday and they did not care that stuff at all.they just asked what is my profession and job now.I dont think they check things like that.All they want to see is the person does some smart job,they want new citizens to be educated..when i said i am a lawyer he loved it..So i dont think it might be a problem that you dont remember previous jobs..someone commented about police record.True i also advice to get it if needed from other countries,because it takes some time..

They are going to care about whatever they decide they are going to care about. You can bet your britches that if either the beneficiary or petitioner's last occupation abroad was Nuclear Physicist in Iran, they'll care. You just answer the questions accurately. The discussion is about how to do so.

Will they care if I (the USC) was a student abroad for more than 6 months within the last 5 years? Does being a student even count as "employment" or should I just write in "None" ??? Thank you!

P.S. I realize this thread started close to a year ago, but I am trying my luck with an answer to this from anyone!

[motu 6]

Will they care if I (the USC) was a student abroad for more than 6 months within the last 5 years? Does being a student even count as "employment" or should I just write in "None" ??? Thank you!

P.S. I realize this thread started close to a year ago, but I am trying my luck with an answer to this from anyone!

For employment you will list none but for residence you will need to list your residence abroad. Good Luck