Were we deined the visa?

[IUTRTW 6]

Thanks Omoba for your input.

I wasn't really sure about the medical terms. In fact I'm still confused. I just know that I need to get checked for siphylis too because I'm the first and only man to be intimate with my fiancee. Which means I passed it to her, right? Since it's an STD.

So, if I understand, you're saying the medical condition could be the reason for the AP?

Why couldn't they just tell me that? There's nothing wrong with keeping the applicant informed.

I'm sorry you're going through the AP too. It's only been a week for me. I can imagine how hard it is to be "played" around with for 8 months.

Good luck and keep me posted too. I'll do the same.

[doodlebug 3]

I don't mean to stir trouble but just from googling the disease and reading how one gets it amoung other things on the cdc site http://www.cdc.gov/std/syphilis/STDFact-Syphilis.htm#common if you indeed were the one to give it to her you would know it since you would have had to have had a sore when you were intimate in order to transmit the disease. I don't know how you could not have known that you had a sore down there but then I'm not a guy so who knows what's possible.

In any event no matter who gave it to who, you definitely need to take a trip to your doctor soon. Good luck.

[Ta Ta 1]

Although transmission appears to occur from persons with sores who are in the primary or secondary stage, many sores are unrecognized, thus

most transmission is from persons who are unaware of their infection...................do not have any symptoms for years..............

the infection can also be transmitted by deep kissing.

Therefore Doodle, he would not have to had a sore or known he was infected.

The consular officer may have thought it was a privat matter not to be discussed with the petitioner at this time.

Most consulars will not disclose the reasons for AP/AR as it is usually confidential.

Is this the reason you are in AP you ask........your case is pending until the medical treatment has concluded.

You may or may not go into AP after the medical review, as there may be other reviews deemed necessary, such as document checks and the other reasons I stated earlier.

You will not know until the medical issue has been resolved. They will not let you know ahead what happens, you will find out

one step at a time.

[IUTRTW 6]

To answer your question DOODLE: No I don't have any sores on "my didi" or anywhere else. Neither does she. I think there are no symptoms, like OMOBA said. At least I didn't notice anything abnormal. But i'm seeing my doctor soon.

Thanks

[IUTRTW 6]

My fiancee is done with her vaccins. The doctor handed her a sealed envelop to take to the officer. But she has to pay the same fees to see the officer again which I think is BS. Is it the same way for other embassies?

I mean I don't mind paying but I just don't understand why we can't just send to him.

Have you experienced this Omoba?

Thanks guys

[Ta Ta 1]

She would probably have to pay for her treatment injections ( those aren't vaccines ) because it was another office visit but there is only one

visa application fee no matter if you have to drop something off or interview again.

Who took money from her ?

Maybe you misunderstood her.

Did she give money to a National or the consulate officer himself ?

There is something wrong with that picture.

Ask her again.

[Magnolia31 0]

You actually don't. You can get a waiver but do need them once you file for AOS. I was given this option.

You do need your vaccination records for your K-1. Or at least I did.

[Magnolia31 0]

No, she is correct. Some civil surgeons will tell you that you need them cuz they make mor emoney off of you that way. You actually do not need them until you file for AOS. When I went for my medical, I did NOT get my vaccinations because I had a pneumonia at the time and couldn't get them. On my DS-3025 my CS put a check by waiver. I did get them later on by my primary care doctor and THEN had all vaccinations transferred to form I-693A by a CS when I came to the US and applied for AOS.

Vaccinations are not required for a K1

I'm not sure where you got this info, but, unless there have been major changes to that policy, the proper vaccinations ARE required. As it was, my wife (then fiance) did not have to have any due to the fact all of hers were up to date. You might want to check your sources on that.

[Magnolia31 0]

What the hell? That CS seems like he is trying to get extra money because she does NOT need her vaccinations at this time. If there is REALLY something in her system, she needs medications, not vaccinations because the vaccinations can only make her immune system weaker. I had pneumonia when i went for my exam and my CS refused to do vaccinations!

Thanks for the inputs guys

No they did not keep her passport, which worries me.

And the letter doesn't say "221 g" either.

The officer did mention to her that they need the final report (i don't know the proper term) from the doctor before he could issue the visa. And the doctor won't hand it to her before she's done with the vaccinations. The Doctor said she something present in her system that obliges him to give her the vaccinations. She'll be done in 10 days.

I gotta agree there - that's bullsh .............

Sounds like a potentially corrupt doctor. If he vaccinates, he gets extra fees that he isn't entitled to, since vaccinations are not necessary until AOS.

Does the US embassy allow her to go to a different doctor?

If you can, get her to a different doctor, get the DS-3025 that she is entitled to get from the examing doctor, and consider a formal complaint about the current doctor *after* visa is in hand. At least, that is my opinion -- and probably not an expert opinion at that.

[Magnolia31 0]

If she was told it was "benign skin syphillis", this can only mean secondary infection. Syphillis goes through 4 stages and the first stage is the primary stage. The primary stage is the stage of the organism's entry into the body. Secondary syphilis is a systemic infection marked by the eruption of skin rashes and ulcers in the mucous membranes. Since it causes the skin rashes/lesions/etc., some people refer to it as skin syphillis and in her case, benign skin syphillis. I am sorry to hear this since it is a contagious disease UNLESS it is in its latent stage. Once it is in its third stage it is no longer contagious. Have you had yourself checked?

Are you sure they said benign skin syphyllis or benign late syphillis?

Gosh, sorry.

Thanks for the replies

The doctor said something like "benign skin siphylis". He told me over the phone not to worry; That's it's not contagious and will go away aftr her penincilin injections.

Is that ground for Administrative Review? Or worse, are they doubting that our relationship is real?

[Magnolia31 0]

Sorry for the numerous posts but I just re-read your post. Since you said the DR told her it is NOT contagious, then it can only be benign LATE syphillis. This is the stage where it is no longer contagious. Some patients develop so-called benign late syphilis, which begins between three and 10 years after infection. I'm not a DR but I work in the medical field and i am familiar with diseases/illnesses. Since he said this is not contagious and it has got to be this. In any event, I hope it gets cleared up soon.

Thanks for the replies

The doctor said something like "benign skin siphylis". He told me over the phone not to worry; That's it's not contagious and will go away aftr her penincilin injections.

Is that ground for Administrative Review? Or worse, are they doubting that our relationship is real?

[Magnolia31 0]

How long have you been with your fiance? I am not trying to stir up anything BUT like I said in my past post, if she is at a latent stage it is no longer contagious. A few years have to go by in order to get to this stage so do the math. I also think that if you had syphillis, you would know.

Have you had any skin lesions/rashes/etc? Swollen glands, fevers, etc.?

Thanks Omoba for your input.

I wasn't really sure about the medical terms. In fact I'm still confused. I just know that I need to get checked for siphylis too because I'm the first and only man to be intimate with my fiancee. Which means I passed it to her, right? Since it's an STD.

So, if I understand, you're saying the medical condition could be the reason for the AP?

Why couldn't they just tell me that? There's nothing wrong with keeping the applicant informed.

I'm sorry you're going through the AP too. It's only been a week for me. I can imagine how hard it is to be "played" around with for 8 months.

Good luck and keep me posted too. I'll do the same.

[Ta Ta 1]

What the hell? That CS seems like he is trying to get extra money because she does NOT need her vaccinations at this time. If there is REALLY something in her system, she needs medications, not vaccinations because the vaccinations can only make her immune system weaker. I had pneumonia when i went for my exam and my CS refused to do vaccinations!

Thanks for the inputs guys

No they did not keep her passport, which worries me.

And the letter doesn't say "221 g" either.

The officer did mention to her that they need the final report (i don't know the proper term) from the doctor before he could issue the visa. And the doctor won't hand it to her before she's done with the vaccinations. The Doctor said she something present in her system that obliges him to give her the vaccinations. She'll be done in 10 days.

I gotta agree there - that's bullsh .............

Sounds like a potentially corrupt doctor. If he vaccinates, he gets extra fees that he isn't entitled to, since vaccinations are not necessary until AOS.

Does the US embassy allow her to go to a different doctor?

If you can, get her to a different doctor, get the DS-3025 that she is entitled to get from the examing doctor, and consider a formal complaint about the current doctor *after* visa is in hand. At least, that is my opinion -- and probably not an expert opinion at that.

Magnolia,

The doctors in the foreign country are panel physicians and the doctors in the US civil surgeons. So his fiancee is not seeing a CS.

The OP mistakenly said VACCINES in his post but meant antibiotic injections as treatment for the syphilis.

It is embassy specific if regular vaccines are needed or not. The posts have their own requirements and do not always go by

"the book ". So, in some 3. world countries vaccines ARE required before they will interview or will not get an interview. Period.

You don't know where there has been a recent outbreak or what the conditions are, especially in African countries.

So let us not rigidly insist that all panel physicians who give vaccines are corrupt. Again, this is embassy specific.

[*JG* 2]

You do need your vaccination records for your K-1. Or at least I did.

Yes, I agree with this statement. Andre had to prove his at medical before his K-1 was approved.

[Magnolia31 0]

Yeah, I know. I always call them civil surgeons because everybody else does. I figure if i say "panel physician", someone will get confused cuz it's happened before LOL.

I didn't know about the difference in countries - I thought it was the same everywhere although I did wonder why in some countries people need to get pap smears while in Germany you do not. At least in my case, i did not. My private parts weren't even discussed LOL.

What the hell? That CS seems like he is trying to get extra money because she does NOT need her vaccinations at this time. If there is REALLY something in her system, she needs medications, not vaccinations because the vaccinations can only make her immune system weaker. I had pneumonia when i went for my exam and my CS refused to do vaccinations!

Thanks for the inputs guys

No they did not keep her passport, which worries me.

And the letter doesn't say "221 g" either.

The officer did mention to her that they need the final report (i don't know the proper term) from the doctor before he could issue the visa. And the doctor won't hand it to her before she's done with the vaccinations. The Doctor said she something present in her system that obliges him to give her the vaccinations. She'll be done in 10 days.

I gotta agree there - that's bullsh .............

Sounds like a potentially corrupt doctor. If he vaccinates, he gets extra fees that he isn't entitled to, since vaccinations are not necessary until AOS.

Does the US embassy allow her to go to a different doctor?

If you can, get her to a different doctor, get the DS-3025 that she is entitled to get from the examing doctor, and consider a formal complaint about the current doctor *after* visa is in hand. At least, that is my opinion -- and probably not an expert opinion at that.

Magnolia,

The doctors in the foreign country are panel physicians and the doctors in the US civil surgeons. So his fiancee is not seeing a CS.

The OP mistakenly said VACCINES in his post but meant antibiotic injections as treatment for the syphilis.

It is embassy specific if regular vaccines are needed or not. The posts have their own requirements and do not always go by

"the book ". So, in some 3. world countries vaccines ARE required before they will interview or will not get an interview. Period.

You don't know where there has been a recent outbreak or what the conditions are, especially in African countries.

So let us not rigidly insist that all panel physicians who give vaccines are corrupt. Again, this is embassy specific.