I864 and poverty guideline

[R2DMom 1]

We are currently collecting documents to submit on nvc website.

Our household size is 3 including my husband who is a petitioner, me as beneficiary and our son. Our son was born in the states so my husband is only sponsoring me.

When I look up poverty guidelines on USCIS website, it says household size of 3 (125% of HHS poverty guidelines) is $33,312. This number $33,312 is referring to the “total income” on your Federal Tax Return? Or can we use “total wages”? 
 

If anyone could inform us, that would be great! Thank you.

[Edward and Jaycel 1,282]

Current income is king which is proved through paystubs, employment verification letter. That is the number you put for Part 6. Item 7. "My current individual annual income is:". The line item you input for Part 6. Items 16.a. -16.c. is the "Total Income" line from the Tax Return Transcript. Your current income and most recent tax year's "Total Income" will be evaluated to determine eligibility.

Edited April 8 by Edward and Jaycel

[pushbrk 13,371]

11 hours ago, Edward and Jaycel said:

Current income is king which is proved through paystubs, employment verification letter. That is the number you put for Part 6. Item 7. "My current individual annual income is:". The line item you input for Part 6. Items 16.a. -16.c. is the "Total Income" line from the Tax Return Transcript. Your current income and most recent tax year's "Total Income" will be evaluated to determine eligibility.

Correct, and current income is the gross pay for a full pay period times the number of pay periods in a full year.  Remember that every two weeks is 26 pay periods.  No, there is no "using" of another number in the tax section.  Enter "total income".

Edited April 8 by pushbrk

[pushbrk 13,371]

11 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

Correct, and current income is the gross pay for a full pay period times the number of pay periods in a full year.  Remember that every two weeks is 26 pay periods.  No, there is no "using" of another number in the tax section.  Enter "total income".

Quoting myself, I want to add that your question itself raises a red flag.  I presume there's a reason you want to use a different number.  Usually, that means there are significant deducted expenses (example being a landlord) that reduce the total income well below the total salary or wages.  This would be a complication to deal with based on specifics.  Many "landlords" or others with money losing side businesses, are both employed and self employed, which bring their "current income" into question, in that it is likely their actual taxable "total income" is going to continue to be less than their employee income.  Depending upon how much less, they may not qualify.

[R2DMom 1]

14 hours ago, Edward and Jaycel said:

Current income is king which is proved through paystubs, employment verification letter. That is the number you put for Part 6. Item 7. "My current individual annual income is:". The line item you input for Part 6. Items 16.a. -16.c. is the "Total Income" line from the Tax Return Transcript. Your current income and most recent tax year's "Total Income" will be evaluated to determine eligibility.

So we can use the number my husband calculated his weekly pay for Part 6. Item 7. “My current individual annual income is”? And we update the paystub etc as supporting documents for this right?

 

Also Part 6. Items 16.a -16.c, we know what total income for 2024 and 2023, however 2022 only has adjusted gross income on his federal tax return because there aren’t as many tax credits and deductions. In that case should we put “N/A”? 

[R2DMom 1]

3 minutes ago, R2DMom said:

So we can use the number my husband calculated his weekly pay for Part 6. Item 7. “My current individual annual income is”? And we update the paystub etc as supporting documents for this right?

 

Also Part 6. Items 16.a -16.c, we know what total income for 2024 and 2023, however 2022 only has adjusted gross income on his federal tax return because there aren’t as many tax credits and deductions. In that case should we put “N/A”? 

I meant *upload the paystub on nvc website 

[pushbrk 13,371]

3 hours ago, R2DMom said:

So we can use the number my husband calculated his weekly pay for Part 6. Item 7. “My current individual annual income is”? And we update the paystub etc as supporting documents for this right?

 

Also Part 6. Items 16.a -16.c, we know what total income for 2024 and 2023, however 2022 only has adjusted gross income on his federal tax return because there aren’t as many tax credits and deductions. In that case should we put “N/A”? 

Yes, on the current income.  A tax return for 2022 that only shows adjusted gross income REALLY would be because he filed the 1040EZ version. In that case you enter the adjusted gross income.  This also is clear from the instructions.  

[R2DMom 1]

3 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

Yes, on the current income.  A tax return for 2022 that only shows adjusted gross income REALLY would be because he filed the 1040EZ version. In that case you enter the adjusted gross income.  This also is clear from the instructions.  

He accidentally got “tax account transcript” instead of tax return transcript. Now we have the right tax return transcript for 2022, thank you!!

 

Also for Part6. Item 7. , if petitioner/sponsor is getting paid weekly, then we can use this formula below

 

“If you earn $25 per hour and work 40 hours per week, your weekly income is $25 * 40 = $1,000. Your annual income is $1,000 * 52 = $52,000. ”

 

to get the right number of  current individual annual income correct? 

 

[Edward and Jaycel 1,282]

11 minutes ago, R2DMom said:

to get the right number of  current individual annual income correct? 

So that the evidence (Paystubs) supports the number you put for this - Take the gross earnings from the paystubs you are going to submit for evidence and multiply that by the number of pay periods in the year. If the hourly rate and hours are a constant across those paystubs then yes your formula would be correct

[pushbrk 13,371]

17 hours ago, R2DMom said:

He accidentally got “tax account transcript” instead of tax return transcript. Now we have the right tax return transcript for 2022, thank you!!

 

Also for Part6. Item 7. , if petitioner/sponsor is getting paid weekly, then we can use this formula below

 

“If you earn $25 per hour and work 40 hours per week, your weekly income is $25 * 40 = $1,000. Your annual income is $1,000 * 52 = $52,000. ”

 

to get the right number of  current individual annual income correct? 

 

I already gave you the formula.  That formula works for people who are paid weekly.  The last calculation depends on the frequency of pay.  First check the dates on the pay stubs to see if the pay is every 7, or 14 days, or is it twice a month, or once a month.  You multiply by 52, 26, 24, or 12.

16 hours ago, Edward and Jaycel said:

So that the evidence (Paystubs) supports the number you put for this - Take the gross earnings from the paystubs you are going to submit for evidence and multiply that by the number of pay periods in the year. If the hourly rate and hours are a constant across those paystubs then yes your formula would be correct

Correct for weekly pay only.  See above post.

 

Edited April 9 by pushbrk

[R2DMom 1]

3 hours ago, pushbrk said:

I already gave you the formula.  That formula works for people who are paid weekly.  The last calculation depends on the frequency of pay.  First check the dates on the pay stubs to see if the pay is every 7, or 14 days, or is it twice a month, or once a month.  You multiply by 52, 26, 24, or 12.

Correct for weekly pay only.  See above post.

 

I know you guys gave me the formula and I do appreciate it. However, I’m not good at math plus English is my second language. Therefore, reading the formula that’s explained by sentences really confused me. 
 

That is why I googled and found this formula that’s understandable for me and I want someone to confirm if this formula is the right way to calculate individual annual income. 
Can anyone please confirm the formula below is the right way? (My husband gets paid weekly) 

 

“If you earn $25 per hour and work 40 hours per week, your weekly income is $25 * 40 =$1,000. Your annual income is $1,000 * 52 =$52,000. “

Please let me know if the formula above is the right way or not. If not then, can someone put the formula like above to explain so that way I can actually understand it. 

[pushbrk 13,371]

6 minutes ago, R2DMom said:

I know you guys gave me the formula and I do appreciate it. However, I’m not good at math plus English is my second language. Therefore, reading the formula that’s explained by sentences really confused me. 
 

That is why I googled and found this formula that’s understandable for me and I want someone to confirm if this formula is the right way to calculate individual annual income. 
Can anyone please confirm the formula below is the right way? (My husband gets paid weekly) 

 

“If you earn $25 per hour and work 40 hours per week, your weekly income is $25 * 40 =$1,000. Your annual income is $1,000 * 52 =$52,000. “

Please let me know if the formula above is the right way or not. If not then, can someone put the formula like above to explain so that way I can actually understand it. 

It's only correct if the sponsor is paid $25 per hour and is paid weekly.  Hopefully the petitioner speaks and understands English Sentences.  Get them involved.  Your husband is the sponsor providing the affidavit.  Get his help.

Not in a sentence but as a formula for a person paid hourly is hourly rate X 2080=Current annual income.

2080 = 40 X 52

Edited April 10 by pushbrk

[R2DMom 1]

23 hours ago, pushbrk said:

It's only correct if the sponsor is paid $25 per hour and is paid weekly.  Hopefully the petitioner speaks and understands English Sentences.  Get them involved.  Your husband is the sponsor providing the affidavit.  Get his help.

Not in a sentence but as a formula for a person paid hourly is hourly rate X 2080=Current annual income.

2080 = 40 X 52

Thank you for the clarification!!