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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Egypt
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Hello all,

Did anyone receive any similar forms like us, which stated that our application was refused under A "221(g)" visa refusal, as in the attached file.
Even though we have submitted everything, they sent us back our pictures, and they mentioned that my fiancé needs to bring evidence of our relationship to the interview.
Is that a normal process at the Cairo, Egypt embassy?

Also, they scheduled our appointment for July. Can we ask the embassy to have an earlier appointment?

Thanks.

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Philippines
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It's normal at any embassy where the Consular Officer does not have enough proof of relationship to approve the visa. Your only recourse is to gather all of the proof of a bona fide relationship you have and submit it.

K1 Visa
EventDate

Service Center: California Service Center

Consulate: Manila, Philippines

I-129F NOA1: 2023-09-20

I-129F NOA2: 2024-06-11

US Entry: 2024-08-30

Marriage: 2024-10-25

 

Adjustment of Status

CIS Office: Denver CO

Date Filed: 2024-11-18

NOA Date: 2024-11-21

RFE(s) :

Bio. Appt.: 2024-12-26

 

Employment Authorization Document

Event/Date

CIS Office: NBC

Date Filed: 2024-11-18

Bio. Appt.: 2024-12-26

Approved Date: 2025-01-08

Date Card Received: 2025-01-18

Comments: Card Produced 2025-01-15
Estimates/Stats: Your EAD was approved in 51 days.

 

Comments : Phoenix, AZ LockBox - NOA1 Received in mail 12/02/24 - Biometrics completed 12/26/24 - I-765 Approved 01/08/2025 - EAD Card Received 01/18/2025

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Egypt
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3 minutes ago, Edward and Jaycel said:

It's normal at any embassy where the Consular Officer does not have enough proof of relationship to approve the visa. Your only recourse is to gather all of the proof of a bona fide relationship you have and submit it.

Thank you - Even if we provided more than enough evidence regarding our relationship?

 

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Philippines
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1 minute ago, ShawnSpiker said:

Thank you - Even if we provided more than enough evidence regarding our relationship?

 

Can I assume that the writing at the bottom of the 221g form says you need to return with Proof of Relationship? Because that part is not circled in the pre-printed section

K1 Visa
EventDate

Service Center: California Service Center

Consulate: Manila, Philippines

I-129F NOA1: 2023-09-20

I-129F NOA2: 2024-06-11

US Entry: 2024-08-30

Marriage: 2024-10-25

 

Adjustment of Status

CIS Office: Denver CO

Date Filed: 2024-11-18

NOA Date: 2024-11-21

RFE(s) :

Bio. Appt.: 2024-12-26

 

Employment Authorization Document

Event/Date

CIS Office: NBC

Date Filed: 2024-11-18

Bio. Appt.: 2024-12-26

Approved Date: 2025-01-08

Date Card Received: 2025-01-18

Comments: Card Produced 2025-01-15
Estimates/Stats: Your EAD was approved in 51 days.

 

Comments : Phoenix, AZ LockBox - NOA1 Received in mail 12/02/24 - Biometrics completed 12/26/24 - I-765 Approved 01/08/2025 - EAD Card Received 01/18/2025

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Egypt
Timeline
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17 minutes ago, Edward and Jaycel said:

Can I assume that the writing at the bottom of the 221g form says you need to return with Proof of Relationship? Because that part is not circled in the pre-printed section

You are right.

Yes, it says in Arabic, bring proof of the relationship to the interview appointment.
They sent us back our pictures, and they did not circle any x boxes.

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Philippines
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12 minutes ago, ShawnSpiker said:

You are right.

Yes, it says in Arabic, bring proof of the relationship to the interview appointment.
They sent us back our pictures, and they did not circle any x boxes.

 

Then that is what they will need to overcome the 221g refusal and approve the visa... The appointment in July is for a follow-up interview? What did you submit for the first interview for proof of relationship?

K1 Visa
EventDate

Service Center: California Service Center

Consulate: Manila, Philippines

I-129F NOA1: 2023-09-20

I-129F NOA2: 2024-06-11

US Entry: 2024-08-30

Marriage: 2024-10-25

 

Adjustment of Status

CIS Office: Denver CO

Date Filed: 2024-11-18

NOA Date: 2024-11-21

RFE(s) :

Bio. Appt.: 2024-12-26

 

Employment Authorization Document

Event/Date

CIS Office: NBC

Date Filed: 2024-11-18

Bio. Appt.: 2024-12-26

Approved Date: 2025-01-08

Date Card Received: 2025-01-18

Comments: Card Produced 2025-01-15
Estimates/Stats: Your EAD was approved in 51 days.

 

Comments : Phoenix, AZ LockBox - NOA1 Received in mail 12/02/24 - Biometrics completed 12/26/24 - I-765 Approved 01/08/2025 - EAD Card Received 01/18/2025

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Egypt
Timeline
Posted
13 minutes ago, Edward and Jaycel said:

 

Then that is what they will need to overcome the 221g refusal and approve the visa... The appointment in July is for a follow-up interview? What did you submit for the first interview for proof of relationship?

My fiancé and I never had any in-person interviews; that's the first interview. we had submitted everything, and they sent us back the pictures and tickets for flights. 
They ask us to bring proof of relationship back at the first interview in July.

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Philippines
Timeline
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Ok so was this just a review of the documents by the embassy prior to the interview?

 

K1 Visa
EventDate

Service Center: California Service Center

Consulate: Manila, Philippines

I-129F NOA1: 2023-09-20

I-129F NOA2: 2024-06-11

US Entry: 2024-08-30

Marriage: 2024-10-25

 

Adjustment of Status

CIS Office: Denver CO

Date Filed: 2024-11-18

NOA Date: 2024-11-21

RFE(s) :

Bio. Appt.: 2024-12-26

 

Employment Authorization Document

Event/Date

CIS Office: NBC

Date Filed: 2024-11-18

Bio. Appt.: 2024-12-26

Approved Date: 2025-01-08

Date Card Received: 2025-01-18

Comments: Card Produced 2025-01-15
Estimates/Stats: Your EAD was approved in 51 days.

 

Comments : Phoenix, AZ LockBox - NOA1 Received in mail 12/02/24 - Biometrics completed 12/26/24 - I-765 Approved 01/08/2025 - EAD Card Received 01/18/2025

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Philippines
Timeline
Posted

Interesting.... This is the first I've heard of a 221g being issued outside the confines of an actual interview. Well, at least now you know you need to beef up your proof of relationship before the interview. 

K1 Visa
EventDate

Service Center: California Service Center

Consulate: Manila, Philippines

I-129F NOA1: 2023-09-20

I-129F NOA2: 2024-06-11

US Entry: 2024-08-30

Marriage: 2024-10-25

 

Adjustment of Status

CIS Office: Denver CO

Date Filed: 2024-11-18

NOA Date: 2024-11-21

RFE(s) :

Bio. Appt.: 2024-12-26

 

Employment Authorization Document

Event/Date

CIS Office: NBC

Date Filed: 2024-11-18

Bio. Appt.: 2024-12-26

Approved Date: 2025-01-08

Date Card Received: 2025-01-18

Comments: Card Produced 2025-01-15
Estimates/Stats: Your EAD was approved in 51 days.

 

Comments : Phoenix, AZ LockBox - NOA1 Received in mail 12/02/24 - Biometrics completed 12/26/24 - I-765 Approved 01/08/2025 - EAD Card Received 01/18/2025

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Egypt
Timeline
Posted
12 minutes ago, Edward and Jaycel said:

Interesting.... This is the first I've heard of a 221g being issued outside the confines of an actual interview. Well, at least now you know you need to beef up your proof of relationship before the interview. 

Well, I am speechless because the relationship and the proof are so solid.

Did you hear about the paper color codes of the 221G?

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Philippines
Timeline
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3 minutes ago, ShawnSpiker said:

Did you hear about the paper color codes of the 221G?

 

Yes... I've heard that a 221g on white paper is a "Soft" refusal meaning it's easily corrected.

 

5 minutes ago, ShawnSpiker said:

Well, I am speechless because the relationship and the proof are so solid.

 

What proof did you guys submit?

K1 Visa
EventDate

Service Center: California Service Center

Consulate: Manila, Philippines

I-129F NOA1: 2023-09-20

I-129F NOA2: 2024-06-11

US Entry: 2024-08-30

Marriage: 2024-10-25

 

Adjustment of Status

CIS Office: Denver CO

Date Filed: 2024-11-18

NOA Date: 2024-11-21

RFE(s) :

Bio. Appt.: 2024-12-26

 

Employment Authorization Document

Event/Date

CIS Office: NBC

Date Filed: 2024-11-18

Bio. Appt.: 2024-12-26

Approved Date: 2025-01-08

Date Card Received: 2025-01-18

Comments: Card Produced 2025-01-15
Estimates/Stats: Your EAD was approved in 51 days.

 

Comments : Phoenix, AZ LockBox - NOA1 Received in mail 12/02/24 - Biometrics completed 12/26/24 - I-765 Approved 01/08/2025 - EAD Card Received 01/18/2025

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Egypt
Timeline
Posted
3 minutes ago, Edward and Jaycel said:

 

Yes... I've heard that a 221g on white paper is a "Soft" refusal meaning it's easily corrected.

 

 

What proof did you guys submit?

Everything, such as photos, screen shots of chat, calls, videos, flight tickets, and prints out.
It was all printed on A3 paper, which is more larger size of paper.
They sent it all back to us.

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Philippines
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10 minutes ago, ShawnSpiker said:

Everything, such as photos, screen shots of chat, calls, videos, flight tickets, and prints out.
It was all printed on A3 paper, which is more larger size of paper.
They sent it all back to us.

 

Ok sounds pretty thorough... did it also include the time period between when your I-129F was filed and the time you submitted the proof to the embassy?

 

K1 Visa
EventDate

Service Center: California Service Center

Consulate: Manila, Philippines

I-129F NOA1: 2023-09-20

I-129F NOA2: 2024-06-11

US Entry: 2024-08-30

Marriage: 2024-10-25

 

Adjustment of Status

CIS Office: Denver CO

Date Filed: 2024-11-18

NOA Date: 2024-11-21

RFE(s) :

Bio. Appt.: 2024-12-26

 

Employment Authorization Document

Event/Date

CIS Office: NBC

Date Filed: 2024-11-18

Bio. Appt.: 2024-12-26

Approved Date: 2025-01-08

Date Card Received: 2025-01-18

Comments: Card Produced 2025-01-15
Estimates/Stats: Your EAD was approved in 51 days.

 

Comments : Phoenix, AZ LockBox - NOA1 Received in mail 12/02/24 - Biometrics completed 12/26/24 - I-765 Approved 01/08/2025 - EAD Card Received 01/18/2025

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Whatever else you submit, get to your fiancee several days early and take (and print) copious photos together, gather as many mutual receipts as possible, and everything else you can think of, and absolutely overwhelm them at the consular window with current evidence.  This does NOT sound good at all.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

 
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