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Hello Visa Journey community,

 

I'm seeking legal advice regarding marriage and spousal visa application. My fiancé is currently incarcerated in a federal prison in Ohio, and we're planning to get married. Given our circumstances, I need to understand the legal ramifications of getting married while he's incarcerated and the subsequent spousal visa application process. I'm particularly interested in knowing what legal documents and procedures are required. Can anyone recommend resources or attorneys specializing in this area?

 

Your guidance or similar experiences would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

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There are two different things here, one is getting married to a federal inmate, and the other being eventual immigration, so you may need two lawyers.  Based on what I know, it is up to him to submit the request to get married, and eventually and I130.  I assume he has or had a lawyer, I would look to that person for the marriage application, and maybe they can suggest a good immigration attorney to assist with the immigration process.

 

Good Luck!

 

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When does he get out?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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The Federal Bureau of Prisons does not permit conjugal visits 

so, getting married at this point is mute according to immigration benefits as you need to consumate the marriage for him to file a spouse visa

 

Gilligan (1974), the United States District Court for the Northern District of Ohio held that prisoners have no federal constitutional right to conjugal visits ..

 

 

You can visit according to the Federal Prison guides but i would not marry and start the immigration till he is out and has a job to support  the process

 

there are 2 cases on VJ that have married prisoners so you can search in the search bar on top right in blue bar to find them and see how have done all this

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15 hours ago, MaryGraceHernande said:

Hello Visa Journey community,

 

I'm seeking legal advice regarding marriage and spousal visa application. My fiancé is currently incarcerated in a federal prison in Ohio, and we're planning to get married. Given our circumstances, I need to understand the legal ramifications of getting married while he's incarcerated and the subsequent spousal visa application process. I'm particularly interested in knowing what legal documents and procedures are required. Can anyone recommend resources or attorneys specializing in this area?

 

Your guidance or similar experiences would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

This is not a place where you will find legal advice.  This is a DIY site.  

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8 hours ago, JeanneAdil said:

The Federal Bureau of Prisons does not permit conjugal visits 

so, getting married at this point is mute according to immigration benefits as you need to consumate the marriage for him to file a spouse visa

 

Gilligan (1974), the United States District Court for the Northern District of Ohio held that prisoners have no federal constitutional right to conjugal visits ..

 

 

You can visit according to the Federal Prison guides but i would not marry and start the immigration till he is out and has a job to support  the process

 

there are 2 cases on VJ that have married prisoners so you can search in the search bar on top right in blue bar to find them and see how have done all this

As USCIS views consummation of marital relationships to be "in each other's presence," the issue of "conjugal" visits is a non-issue. 

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Moved from K3 Process & Procedures to IR-1/CR-1 Process & Procedures.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
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September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
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September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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13 hours ago, SalishSea said:

As USCIS views consummation of marital relationships to be "in each other's presence," the issue of "conjugal" visits is a non-issue. 

it actually says (35) The term "spouse", "wife", or "husband" do not include a spouse, wife, or husband by reason of any marriage ceremony where the contracting parties thereto are not physically present in the presence of each other, unless the marriage shall have been consummated.

 

and definition of consummation is The consummation of a marriage, or simply consummation, is the first officially credited act of sexual intercourse following marriage

 

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title8-section1101&num=0&edition=prelim

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also says 

2)  Unconsummated:  A proxy marriage that has not been subsequently consummated does not create or confer the status of “spouse” pursuant to INA 101(a)(35) For IV cases, a party to an unconsummated proxy marriage may be processed as a nonimmigrant fiancé(e).  A proxy marriage celebrated in a jurisdiction recognizing such marriages is generally valid another marriage in the United States is not necessary if the applicant is admitted to the United States under INA provisions other than as a spouse.  See 9 FAM 502.7-3(B) for additional information on fiancé classifications.  

under 

 

https://fam.state.gov/fam/09FAM/09FAM010208.html

9 FAM 102.8-1(D)  Proxy Marriages

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Russia
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35 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

it actually says (35) The term "spouse", "wife", or "husband" do not include a spouse, wife, or husband by reason of any marriage ceremony where the contracting parties thereto are not physically present in the presence of each other, unless the marriage shall have been consummated.

 

and definition of consummation is The consummation of a marriage, or simply consummation, is the first officially credited act of sexual intercourse following marriage

 

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title8-section1101&num=0&edition=prelim

I think the point is if the spouse meet in person either during the ceremony, or afterward during a visitation, it would satisfy the "consummation" requirement per USCIS.  We do not know anything about the OP as to their ability to travel to the US for a prison visit.  If they are from an ESTA/VWP country, or they have a B2, they can meet the requirement even if the federal system does not allow conjugal visits.

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Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

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N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

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N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

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