The hadith is not islam!

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salam to u....

well i disagree.

Allah says in the quran " say: Obey Allah and His messenger: but if they turn back, Allah loveth not those who reject faith" suran 3 verse 32

" All who obey Allah and the Messenger are in the company of those on whom is the grace of Allah, of the prophets ( who teach) the sincere ( lovers of truth), the martyres, and the righteous ( who do good): Ah! How beautiful is their company" surah 4 verse 69

" O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger and those charged with authority among you. If ye differ in anything among yourselves, refer it to Allah and His messenger, if ye believe in Allah and the last day: That is best and most suitable for final determintaion" suran 4 verse 59

" Those are limits set by Allah: those who obey Allah and His messenger will be admitted to gardens with rivers flowing beneath, to abide therein (forever) and that will be the supreme achievment" surah 4 verse 13

" But those who disobey Allah and His messenger and transgress His limits will be admitted to a fire, to abide therein: and they shall have a humiliating punishment" surah 4 verse 14

" Obey Allah, and obey the messenger. And beware (of evil): If ye do turn back, know ye that it is our messenger's duty to proclaim ( the message) in the clearest manner" surah 5 verse 92

Allah also says in the quran in surah 4 verse 80 :"He who obeys The Messenger, obeys Allah: But if any return away, We have not sent thee to watch over them"

These are only few ayat or verses that i managed to find now but im sure u and i know there are LOTS more and i will find them out for u insha Allah. Therefore u have to follow the hadiths that are said to be sahiha meaning they are approved they are correct!! all hadiths are categorized correct and weak and not correct. without hadiths u wdnt know how to fast or pray or perform hajj and alot of other things that are not explained in the quran and thats why Allah has sent a prophet to show us our deen. read more and u will know that when a hadith is labelled correct THEN IT IS CORRECT. read about how the hadiths were collected and how these people whom were asked the scholars have their full bioghraphy and know when they lived and where, with whom and for how long. the hadith that is actually narrated by different people with the same exact phrases, is correct. its a whole deep science its not easy for us to do or even study. i recommend u read more to know for sure that they are not corupted.

These scholars spent all their lifes collecting them and making sure they never noted anything down until a 100% sure. im telling u not yrs n yrs but ALL THEIR LIFE TIME. trust in Allah that his prophet does not speak of anything unless it was from Allah. " la yantiqo 3ani al hawa". Im not trying to convince u becoz Allah guides whomever He wants im only trying to shed some lights on true facts that will be here whether ppl believed in them or not:D

Finally sir i wd like to add this verse: " We only send the Messengers to give glad tidings and to give warnings. But the Unbelievers dispute with vain argument, in order therewith to weaken the truth, and they threat My signs and warnings as a jest" surah 18 verse 56

Thank you for ur time, Raghda:D

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salam to u....

well i disagree.

Allah says in the quran " say: Obey Allah and His messenger: but if they turn back, Allah loveth not those who reject faith" suran 3 verse 32

" All who obey Allah and the Messenger are in the company of those on whom is the grace of Allah, of the prophets ( who teach) the sincere ( lovers of truth), the martyres, and the righteous ( who do good): Ah! How beautiful is their company" surah 4 verse 69

" O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger and those charged with authority among you. If ye differ in anything among yourselves, refer it to Allah and His messenger, if ye believe in Allah and the last day: That is best and most suitable for final determintaion" suran 4 verse 59

" Those are limits set by Allah: those who obey Allah and His messenger will be admitted to gardens with rivers flowing beneath, to abide therein (forever) and that will be the supreme achievment" surah 4 verse 13

" But those who disobey Allah and His messenger and transgress His limits will be admitted to a fire, to abide therein: and they shall have a humiliating punishment" surah 4 verse 14

" Obey Allah, and obey the messenger. And beware (of evil): If ye do turn back, know ye that it is our messenger's duty to proclaim ( the message) in the clearest manner" surah 5 verse 92

Allah also says in the quran in surah 4 verse 80 :"He who obeys The Messenger, obeys Allah: But if any return away, We have not sent thee to watch over them"

These are only few ayat or verses that i managed to find now but im sure u and i know there are LOTS more and i will find them out for u insha Allah. Therefore u have to follow the hadiths that are said to be sahiha meaning they are approved they are correct!! all hadiths are categorized correct and weak and not correct. without hadiths u wdnt know how to fast or pray or perform hajj and alot of other things that are not explained in the quran and thats why Allah has sent a prophet to show us our deen. read more and u will know that when a hadith is labelled correct THEN IT IS CORRECT. read about how the hadiths were collected and how these people whom were asked the scholars have their full bioghraphy and know when they lived and where, with whom and for how long. the hadith that is actually narrated by different people with the same exact phrases, is correct. its a whole deep science its not easy for us to do or even study. i recommend u read more to know for sure that they are not corupted.

These scholars spent all their lifes collecting them and making sure they never noted anything down until a 100% sure. im telling u not yrs n yrs but ALL THEIR LIFE TIME. trust in Allah that his prophet does not speak of anything unless it was from Allah. " la yantiqo 3ani al hawa". Im not trying to convince u becoz Allah guides whomever He wants im only trying to shed some lights on true facts that will be here whether ppl believed in them or not:D

Finally sir i wd like to add this verse: " We only send the Messengers to give glad tidings and to give warnings. But the Unbelievers dispute with vain argument, in order therewith to weaken the truth, and they threat My signs and warnings as a jest" surah 18 verse 56

Thank you for ur time, Raghda:D

Someone gave a similar arguement, i have already responded please review page 7.

Thanks

Adiel

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These scholars spent all their lifes collecting them and making sure they never noted anything down until a 100% sure. im telling u not yrs n yrs but ALL THEIR LIFE TIME.

I am on your side of the argument but the above is not a good thing to prove your case. People spend their whole lives doing similar in any religion, i.e. rabbis, Jesuit scholars, etc. Just because someone studies something all their life doesn't make the thing their studying correct.

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If anyone has taken the time to read the history of hadeeth they will realize the absolute controversy surrounding them.....not to mention the plain fact that there are soooo many contradictory towards each other and towards the Quran. God said to follow the prophet in matters regarding the Quran as THAT is the word of God...hadeeth are man made and thus fallible....doesnt matter if scores of scholars got cricks in their necks going over mountains of hadeeth.....in the end they are just an old version of the chinese whisper game....there is no "scientific proof" that our prophet said even a single one of those hadeeth....God does not protect hadeeth...only the Quran.....that is the only peice of text we can 100% depend and rely on as having no corruption and is infallible. Hadeeth are useful in their way(some) but the Quran is our guidance first and last and always.

btw regardless of how hadeeth are rated(strong, weak, fabricated) makes no difference because Muslims hold just as strongly to the weak and fabricated ones as they do the strong ones....sometimes even more. Just about all hadeeth regarding women that are derogatory in nature or detract from her and her rights in any way are considered weak or fabricated but Muslims hold on to those ones even stronger than most others....why is that? God and the Quran lifts the status of women up to new heights....many many hadeeth bring her slammin back down to the ground...with even more restrictions than previously noted....very sad.....and thats cause scores of scholars spent their WHOLE lives bent over hadeeth and decided the prophet really didnt like women as much as God or the Quran(or even some other hadeeths) made out that he did.....by allowing such "hadeeth" to exist and to record, sanctify and canonize them for future Muslims for eons to come. Again....very sad for Muslims in general and Muslim women in particular. Just a thought.

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And as far as pilgrimage to the kaabah, is it accepted as being instituted with Mohammed?

Because I have seen a lot of claims that it was built by Adam, which would sort of indicate it should have been there for quite some time...

Ok, I'm still confused. The kaabah was used in the earlier religions of the arabs for prayer. It was there for quite some time, although I wouldn't be able to say offhand how long. But I don't know if this is your question.

Hajj isn't a holiday.

it is my understanding the kaabah was considered/used for idol worship. or the place was. i just never figured how it became something a Muslim should do/visit because of the origins of the place.

i am not getting my thoughts across too well, i am sorry. i would like to know more about the Hajj and where it says it is important in the holy Quran.

for those who feel this is not a subject for VJ MENA, i disagree. VJ MENA means more than immigration to some of us. it also means cross culture/religion amongs other issues.

thank you kindly

chi

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my husband says the holy Quran is the only thing he follows/believes. i agree with him. the hadiths were made from men not Allah.

he also said those who are killing and destroying (terrorists) are NOT Muslims!! it is against Allah to kill!

he sais the holy Quran says Christians and Muslims will be praying together in the last days.

chi

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I haven't read the whole thread so I apologize if this has been posted already:

O you who believe! Obey Allah and obey the messenger (Muhammad SAW), and those of you (Muslims) who are in authority. (And) if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger (SAW), if you believe in Allah and in the Last Day. That is better and more suitable for final determination. (4:59)

Say: "Obey Allah and obey the messenger, but if you turn away, he (Messenger Muhammad SAW) is only responsible for the duty placed on him (i.e. to convey Allahs Message) and you for that placed on you. If you obey him, you shall be on the right guidance. The Messengers duty is only to convey (the message) in a clear way (i.e. to preach in a plain way)." (24:54)

And perform AsSalat (prayer), and give Zakat (charity) and obey the messenger (Muhammad SAW) that you may receive mercy (from Allah). (24:56)

O you who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger (Muhammad SAW) and render not vain your deeds. (47:33)

Obey Allah, and obey the messenger (Muhammad SAW), but if you turn away, then the duty of Our Messenger is only to convey (the Message) clearly. (64:12)

O you who believe! Obey Allah and obey the Messenger (Muhammad SAW), and those of you (Muslims) who are in authority. (And) if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger (SAW), if you believe in Allah and in the Last Day. That is better and more suitable for final determination. (4:59)

...And whatsoever the Messenger (Muhammad (sallallaahu`alaihiwasallam) gives you, take it, and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it) , and fear Allah. Verily, Allah is severe in punishment.(59:7)

Indeed in the Messenger of Allah (Muhammad SAW) you have a good example to follow for him who hopes in (the Meeting with) Allah and the Last Day and remembers Allah much. (33:21)

I imagine it must be hard to obey the messenger (salallahu alayhi wa salaam) or refer matters to him if you reject everything he ever said or did.

Also:

And We have sent down unto thee (also) the Message; that thou may explain clearly to men what is sent for them, and that they may give thought. (16:44)

If he was supposed to explain the Quran to us then how is that supposed to happen now that he's gone if we reject his sayings and actions (ahadith)?

It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision: if any one disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path. (33:36)

Thanks for the response, at first glance it can look quite convincing the quotes you pasted from the holy Quran. But let us STUDY the Quran as it’s meant to be studied as a whole rather than bits and bobs.

As a muslim and a believer in the Quran as God’s word I have to take into account all that you have pasted but let’s take a closer look at what the prophet Muhammed’s real purpose was and his boundries i.e what he can and cannot say. This way we can get closer to the conclusion of your quotes.

This first one pretty much sums it all up but we will continue with others to give you further meat to chew on:

"It (the Quran) is a revelation from the Lord of the universe. Had he (Muhammad) uttered any other teachings, We would have grabbed him by the right, and We would have severed his Wateen (Major artery of the heart), none of you could have helped him." 69:43-47

It’s quite clearly stating that had he uttered any other teachings he would have been punished. So in conclusion he had absolutely no authority to say anything other than what’s in the Quran. So yes let’s obey the messenger and STUDY the Quran.

But let’s further look at the prophet muhammed’s role, in these quotes we can see what his use was by God:

"You have NO duty EXCEPT DELIVERING the message." 42:48

"The messenger has NO function EXCEPT delivery of the message." 5:99

"We have not sent any messenger except to be obeyed by God's will." 4:64

No duty except deliver the message, So what EXACTLY is this message that is so emphasized by God for the prophet. Let’s examine:

"We have sent down to you a scripture containing YOUR MESSAGE. Do you not understand?" 21:10

As we can clearly see the MESSAGE is the Quran. It also states as “YOUR MESSAGE” meaning it is a communication between one soul and God, not Imams and so called religious leaders,.

Further we can see in the next quote what he is allowed to UTTER.

"This is the utterance of an honorable messenger. Not the utterance of a poet; rarely do you believe. Nor the utterance of a soothsayer; rarely do you take heed. A revelation from the Lord of the universe. HAD HE UTTERED ANYOTHER TEACHINGS We would have stopped the revelations to him." [69:40-46]

As you can see in the above quote, the Quran clearly states that he was FORBIDDEN to utter any other teachings.

Now you may argue rather than utter other than the Quran you follow him as to EXPLAIN the Quran to us. Well let’s see what the Quran says to that:

"Do not move your tongue to hasten it. It is we who will collect it into Quran. Once we recite it, you shall follow such a Quran. Then it is WE who will explain it." 75:16-19

As you can see in the above quote the prophet Muhammed DOES NOT EVEN HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO EXPLAIN THE QURAN. It makes you wonder why people EVEN go to so called religious leaders and so called scholars, the Quran is telling us that the message is between one soul and God and is no ones business other than that, if even the prophet Muhammed is not allowed to explain it to us who are the scholars trying to fool???... So who does explain the Quran?... the next quote reveals:

"The Most Gracious. Teacher of the Quran." 55:1-2

Yes it is up to us to just study the Quran and it is God who teaches us as again emphasized in the next quotes:

[73:1] O you cloaked one.

[73:2] Meditate during the night, except rarely.

[73:3] Half of it, or a little less.

[73:4] Or a little more. And read the Quran from cover to cover.

[73:5] We will give you a heavy message.

God has told us he will teach us and give us the message as above.

"....you will find no substitute for the Sunna (system) of God." 33:62

"Shall I seek other than GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?" 6:114

"You will find that the Sunna of Allah is the only Sunna" (33:62....35:43.....48:23)

From the above quotes seems like God is warning us not to look for other Sunnah (SYSTEM) other than God’s and what is God’s Sunnah (SYSTEM) …. QURAN!!!

Show me in the Quran where God has said follow Muhammed’s Sunnah????... there is no such thing because Muhammed has no sunnah he only follows God’s as we are SUPPOSED to.

So in conclusion yes you are right to paste your quotes but to follow the messenger is to follow the Quran as he was only ALLOWED to…. Simple!

If you still insist on following MAN MADE fabrications than read what’s in the HADITH itself and the most reliable SAHIH MUSLIM:

(The Prophet said, "Do not write down anything from me except the Quran." [Ahmed, Vol. 1, Page 171, and Sahih Muslim]

PEACE

Adiel (Mireya’s Hubby)

thank you so much for the clarification. you did a wonderful job!

chi

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I just went looking and think I answered Ramadan myself-- so it's established as the month when the Qu'ran was revealed? So then this would leave Muslims believing there was only one holiday before the Qu'ran? And as far as pilgrimage to the kaabah, is it accepted as being instituted with Mohammed? Because I have seen a lot of claims that it was built by Adam, which would sort of indicate it should have been there for quite some time...

Here is how I understand it. Adam was given the relgious message from God when he was expelled form the garden. A muslim believes this message was the same message Mohommed brought- that the Prophet was not bringing something new but a reminder of what all the prophets before had brought.

Ibrahim built the Kabah in Mecca on a site that Adam had built a place of worship. There were religious ceremonies associated with pilgrimages to the Kabah during Mohammed's time, but were seen as pagan practices. The pagen practices were a corruption of the orginal message from Adam to Ibranhim to Jesus and Mohammed corrected their practices by "bringing back" Islam.

The Quran was reveled to Mohammad during the month of Ramadan while the prophet was spending some time in meditation in isolation in a cave outside of Mecca. This was common practice for some in Mecca at the time. The Meccans were not pagans because they had never been given the word of God, because they has gotten "lost" from the message of the prophets before. Same with Jesus, IMO, he came to remind the community of the original teachings of God that other prophets before him had brought.

thank you---i should have kept reading for the answer. now i will research it! (about the kaba)

chi

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If anyone has taken the time to read the history of hadeeth they will realize the absolute controversy surrounding them.....not to mention the plain fact that there are soooo many contradictory towards each other and towards the Quran. God said to follow the prophet in matters regarding the Quran as THAT is the word of God...hadeeth are man made and thus fallible....doesnt matter if scores of scholars got cricks in their necks going over mountains of hadeeth.....in the end they are just an old version of the chinese whisper game....there is no "scientific proof" that our prophet said even a single one of those hadeeth....God does not protect hadeeth...only the Quran.....that is the only peice of text we can 100% depend and rely on as having no corruption and is infallible. Hadeeth are useful in their way(some) but the Quran is our guidance first and last and always.

btw regardless of how hadeeth are rated(strong, weak, fabricated) makes no difference because Muslims hold just as strongly to the weak and fabricated ones as they do the strong ones....sometimes even more. Just about all hadeeth regarding women that are derogatory in nature or detract from her and her rights in any way are considered weak or fabricated but Muslims hold on to those ones even stronger than most others....why is that? God and the Quran lifts the status of women up to new heights....many many hadeeth bring her slammin back down to the ground...with even more restrictions than previously noted....very sad.....and thats cause scores of scholars spent their WHOLE lives bent over hadeeth and decided the prophet really didnt like women as much as God or the Quran(or even some other hadeeths) made out that he did.....by allowing such "hadeeth" to exist and to record, sanctify and canonize them for future Muslims for eons to come. Again....very sad for Muslims in general and Muslim women in particular. Just a thought.

salam to u coolred:) well may i ask for proof plz..... thank you.

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he also said those who are killing and destroying (terrorists) are NOT Muslims!! it is against Allah to kill!

he sais the holy Quran says Christians and Muslims will be praying together in the last days.

chi

i completely agree with u on that part...... but ask your husband how did the quran reach him if hadiths are corrupt!??

dear adiel

im so sorry but i didnt find page seven here i dont know why??! so plz re post ur argument plz.

thank u for ur time

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he also said those who are killing and destroying (terrorists) are NOT Muslims!! it is against Allah to kill!

he sais the holy Quran says Christians and Muslims will be praying together in the last days.

chi

i completely agree with u on that part...... but ask your husband how did the quran reach him if hadiths are corrupt!??

dear adiel

im so sorry but i didnt find page seven here i dont know why??! so plz re post ur argument plz.

thank u for ur time

umm...not sure what you mean? find the Quran?

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it is my understanding the kaabah was considered/used for idol worship. or the place was. i just never figured how it became something a Muslim should do/visit because of the origins of the place.

i am not getting my thoughts across too well, i am sorry. i would like to know more about the Hajj and where it says it is important in the holy Quran.

for those who feel this is not a subject for VJ MENA, i disagree. VJ MENA means more than immigration to some of us. it also means cross culture/religion amongs other issues.

thank you kindly

chi

My understanding is this- Abraham buildl the Kabah on the spot where Adam placed the first place of worship. Over the years the people of Mecca had forgotten the original teachings and its use had evolved into pagan worship. Muahmmad corrected this behavior and brought it back into its original use.

I know these verses specificall mention hajj in the Quran

Sura 22 (The pilgramage) "And proclaim that the people shall observe Hajj pilgrimage. They will come to you walking or riding on various exhausted (means of transportation). They will come from the farthest locations."

Sura 1 (the Cow) We have rendered the shrine (the Kaba) a focal point for the people, and a safe sanctuary. You may use Abraham's shrine as a prayer house. We commissioned Abraham and Ismail: "You shall purify My house for those who visit, those who live there, and those who bow and

prostrate." and

The knolls of Safa and Marwah are among the rites decreed by GOD. Anyone who observes Hajj or `Umrah commits no error by traversing the distance between them. If one volunteers more righteous works, then GOD is Appreciative, Omniscient.

Sura 3 (The family of Imran) The most important shrine established for the people is the one in Mecca; a blessed beacon for all the people. In it are clear signs: the station of Abraham. Anyone who enters it shall be granted safe passage. The people owe it to GOD that they shall observe Hajj to this shrine, when they can afford it. As for those who disbelieve, GOD does not need anyone.

ETA: oops should have read the thread to see i already left some of this info here before !

Edited September 2, 2007 by mybackpages

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i completely agree with u on that part...... but ask your husband how did the quran reach him if hadiths are corrupt!??

I'm confused. Could you restate your question about hadiths and how that helps someone find the quran?

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he also said those who are killing and destroying (terrorists) are NOT Muslims!! it is against Allah to kill!

he sais the holy Quran says Christians and Muslims will be praying together in the last days.

chi

i completely agree with u on that part...... but ask your husband how did the quran reach him if hadiths are corrupt!??

dear adiel

im so sorry but i didnt find page seven here i dont know why??! so plz re post ur argument plz.

thank u for ur time

Hi,

Ok this was the response I gave to someone who had the same argument as yourself. Thanks

Thanks for the response, at first glance it can look quite convincing the quotes you pasted from the holy Quran. But let us STUDY the Quran as it’s meant to be studied as a whole rather than bits and bobs.

As a muslim and a believer in the Quran as God’s word I have to take into account all that you have pasted but let’s take a closer look at what the prophet Muhammed’s real purpose was and his boundries i.e what he can and cannot say. This way we can get closer to the conclusion of your quotes.

This first one pretty much sums it all up but we will continue with others to give you further meat to chew on:

"It (the Quran) is a revelation from the Lord of the universe. Had he (Muhammad) uttered any other teachings, We would have grabbed him by the right, and We would have severed his Wateen (Major artery of the heart), none of you could have helped him." 69:43-47

It’s quite clearly stating that had he uttered any other teachings he would have been punished. So in conclusion he had absolutely no authority to say anything other than what’s in the Quran. So yes let’s obey the messenger and STUDY the Quran.

But let’s further look at the prophet muhammed’s role, in these quotes we can see what his use was by God:

"You have NO duty EXCEPT DELIVERING the message." 42:48

"The messenger has NO function EXCEPT delivery of the message." 5:99

"We have not sent any messenger except to be obeyed by God's will." 4:64

No duty except deliver the message, So what EXACTLY is this message that is so emphasized by God for the prophet. Let’s examine:

"We have sent down to you a scripture containing YOUR MESSAGE. Do you not understand?" 21:10

As we can clearly see the MESSAGE is the Quran. It also states as “YOUR MESSAGE” meaning it is a communication between one soul and God, not Imams and so called religious leaders,.

Further we can see in the next quote what he is allowed to UTTER.

"This is the utterance of an honorable messenger. Not the utterance of a poet; rarely do you believe. Nor the utterance of a soothsayer; rarely do you take heed. A revelation from the Lord of the universe. HAD HE UTTERED ANYOTHER TEACHINGS We would have stopped the revelations to him." [69:40-46]

As you can see in the above quote, the Quran clearly states that he was FORBIDDEN to utter any other teachings.

Now you may argue rather than utter other than the Quran you follow him as to EXPLAIN the Quran to us. Well let’s see what the Quran says to that:

"Do not move your tongue to hasten it. It is we who will collect it into Quran. Once we recite it, you shall follow such a Quran. Then it is WE who will explain it." 75:16-19

As you can see in the above quote the prophet Muhammed DOES NOT EVEN HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO EXPLAIN THE QURAN. It makes you wonder why people EVEN go to so called religious leaders and so called scholars, the Quran is telling us that the message is between one soul and God and is no ones business other than that, if even the prophet Muhammed is not allowed to explain it to us who are the scholars trying to fool???... So who does explain the Quran?... the next quote reveals:

"The Most Gracious. Teacher of the Quran." 55:1-2

Yes it is up to us to just study the Quran and it is God who teaches us as again emphasized in the next quotes:

[73:1] O you cloaked one.

[73:2] Meditate during the night, except rarely.

[73:3] Half of it, or a little less.

[73:4] Or a little more. And read the Quran from cover to cover.

[73:5] We will give you a heavy message.

God has told us he will teach us and give us the message as above.

"....you will find no substitute for the Sunna (system) of God." 33:62

"Shall I seek other than GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?" 6:114

"You will find that the Sunna of Allah is the only Sunna" (33:62....35:43.....48:23)

From the above quotes seems like God is warning us not to look for other Sunnah (SYSTEM) other than God’s and what is God’s Sunnah (SYSTEM) …. QURAN!!!

Show me in the Quran where God has said follow Muhammed’s Sunnah????... there is no such thing because Muhammed has no sunnah he only follows God’s as we are SUPPOSED to.

So in conclusion yes you are right to paste your quotes but to follow the messenger is to follow the Quran as he was only ALLOWED to…. Simple!

If you still insist on following MAN MADE fabrications than read what’s in the HADITH itself and the most reliable SAHIH MUSLIM:

(The Prophet said, "Do not write down anything from me except the Quran." [Ahmed, Vol. 1, Page 171, and Sahih Muslim]

PEACE

Adiel (Mireya’s Hubby)

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Any one think or believe that hadith is not essential in Eldeen he shoul be afraid that his or her eman in danger

and not even eman but also his eslam

Any word reach us from prophet muhammed and we became sure that this word is from him we have to ( i repeat we have to) believe it and obey his order

any one should read surat ( elnagm) 53:3and4

please donot lose your time in things deviate you from the true way

keep your self on the way of elhaq

Allahom ganebna alfetan ma zahar menha wa ma batan