What are the rules?

[no name 1]

I've tried to ask this in PM, but I am coming up empty.

Is it not normal to warn a poster before closing a thread/banning someone? Is it not common courtesy to PM someone to chill out or they will get the thread closed/ or a ban?

Banning someone then PMing makes no sense as your account is disabled & therefore no access to PMs.

I'm still trying to figure out why I got a ban for a so-called personal attack which was not an attack, but a posting of a dictionary DEFINITION. I'm also wondering why it's been over 74 hours & despite repeated PMs asking WHY & assurances it is being looked into, I have not received any answers as to why this happened when it obviously was NOT a violation of the TOS.

Edited August 13, 2007 by devilette

[almaty 19]

I agree.. a person needs a pm warning..prior to a ban ..unless, it is a blantant troll

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

There is one universal rule that applies to all websites like this.

Don't piss off the people who own and/or run the site.

[no name 1]

There is one universal rule that applies to all websites like this.

Don't piss off the people who own and/or run the site.

They weren't who banned me (as far as I know).

Still, common courtesy exists on VJ, doesn't it? If not, that's pretty sad.

Edited August 13, 2007 by devilette

[Chica Yeyé 41]

I agree.. a person needs a pm warning..prior to a ban ..unless, it is a blantant troll

I agree as well. This may put me in the bad side of the mod's, but since that blowout with Homesick things seem to have gotten out of hand. Personal attacks, blatant racism and other equally nasty things are allowed IF they come from certain members. Sad in a community of support like VJ. I love VJ and come here for immigration info and support, but indeed, warnings are there for a reason. Banning for the heck of it and without warning does not make sense. Just my .02

Len, hoping not to get banned.

[no name 1]

Addendum to my post - from the pinned thread in this forum (by Capn):

A person may receive a one or more day suspension if:

Again, a person personally attacks another member by using profane language, verbal threats, or other forms of derogatory comments directly at a specific member. This is referring to blatantly derogatory and antagonizing threats, not one made in jest. In this case judgment may be necessary including looking at if this is a trend or just a single event that will likely not occur again.

Or

If a person repeatedly disregards requests by a moderator to curb certain behavior that is destructive to the community.

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I received no warning, made no personal attack, yet my suspension stayed.

Edited August 13, 2007 by devilette

[kitkat1 5]

I would also like to know what the rules are.

One would think that due to the nature of the forum, problems or rules could and would be openly discussed. But so often the powers that be post something randomly in an effort to quiet every down (i.e. "will unlock link to FBI shortly"),yet that thing is never done or explained and it's not allowed to be discussed openly. Instead, posters are told to take it from the open forum to a PM (which in my mind defeats the whole purpose of a site-related forum).

This situation feels the same -- no advance warning about a ban, a ban but no TOS violation, etc. I have the feeling there are no rules and no one is required to explain their action/inaction/untruths

[LaL 418]

Dev ~ I already discussed this with you in PM prior to you starting this thread.

[no name 1]

Dev ~ I already discussed this with you in PM prior to you starting this thread.

And you answered part of that. Others have the same issues, so why not address it in this open forum.

I personally am asking for clear answers as to what happened Friday, according to VJ's own rules.

[kitkat1 5]

Dev ~ I already discussed this with you in PM prior to you starting this thread.

LaL can you explain it for the rest of us? Keeping stuff like this in PMs just leaves posters completely uninformed.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

Dev ~ I already discussed this with you in PM prior to you starting this thread.

LaL can you explain it for the rest of us? Keeping stuff like this in PMs just leaves posters completely uninformed.

Second that one.

[LaL 418]

The point is, if you have issues to take it up with us personally. I am always available to you when you PM me and if my answer to you did not satisfy you, why take it to the open forum? This just seems like another attempt to create some interest regarding the administration of the site. Frankly, it's tiring, and unnecessary.

If you have questions about our methods, or what we can or cannot do, please message us, as always.

[kitkat1 5]

If you have questions about our methods, or what we can or cannot do, please message us, as always.

LaL, not trying to make trouble here, but it appears MANY of us have questions about the moderator's methods when it comes to bans, etc.

So rather than ask each individual person with a question to PM a moderator, wouldn't it be possible to clarify the rules here in the open forum, as D requested, so everyone understands?

[no name 1]

The point is, if you have issues to take it up with us personally. I am always available to you when you PM me and if my answer to you did not satisfy you, why take it to the open forum?

If you have questions about our methods, or what we can or cannot do, please message us, as always.

Because it's NOT working.....? My PMs are not being answered by the one who banned me or admin....

And I we want to know for future reference.

Edited August 13, 2007 by devilette

[LaL 418]

It is subjective as I am sure you can imagine, however we do attempt diplomacy wherever possible which would mean, yes, for the most part you will see us remind in a thread, or PM directly, or warn. There are few times when we do not as well.