Refused Again 😁

[RK93_HO 4]

We have been refused again under section 212 (a) 3 (b) after filing a writ of mandamus 2 months ago. It has been 13 years and i am done with it. We provided everything all evidence that shows he is not a terrorist and still they labeled him as one. I will never apply again. I will live with my husband abroad with our kids and enjoy our lives together. I fought this accusation so hard and now it has come to an end. They give visas left and right to people who abuse it in the states, but they refuse people who work hard and want to make something from themselves and live happily with their family. Life is not fair. Now i know how to move forward and stop feeling like something is pulling us back. This weight has been lifted off. Im glad i got to get this off my chest. Thank you guys i have been a member since forever but stopped posting cause it was all to much. Goodluck to everyone on their visas and their future in the states 🙏🏻

[Boiler 46,398]

(B) Terrorist activities
(i) In general
Any alien who-

(I) has engaged in a terrorist activity;

(II) a consular officer, the Attorney General, or the Secretary of Homeland Security knows, or has reasonable ground to believe, is engaged in or is likely to engage after entry in any terrorist activity (as defined in clause (iv));

(III) has, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily harm, incited terrorist activity;

(IV) is a representative (as defined in clause (v)) of-

(aa) a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or

(bb) a political, social, or other group that endorses or espouses terrorist activity;

(V) is a member of a terrorist organization described in subclause (I) or (II) of clause (vi);

(VI) is a member of a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the alien can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that the alien did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization;

(VII) endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity or support a terrorist organization;

(VIII) has received military-type training (as defined in section 2339D(c)(1) of title 18) from or on behalf of any organization that, at the time the training was received, was a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or

(IX) is the spouse or child of an alien who is inadmissible under this subparagraph, if the activity causing the alien to be found inadmissible occurred within the last 5 years,

 is inadmissible. An alien who is an officer, official, representative, or spokesman of the Palestine Liberation Organization is considered, for purposes of this chapter, to be engaged in a terrorist activity.

 

This?

[JeanneAdil 6,727]

I am so sorry u have gone thru all this and my journey so i do understand the frustration but u must accept what was decided at embassy level from CO's who best know the country 

to be considered a terrorist he would have been either reported by other county men or under the watch eye of ADF

 

This is why

 

Violent extremist organizations from northern Benin and Burkina Faso are increasingly targeting northern Togo as conflicts from the Sahel spill into coastal countries.

https://adf-magazine.com/2024/07/terror-attacks-increase-in-togo-as-sahel-extremists-encroach/

 

DOJ takes the info given out by the African Defense forum as serious and does not solely rely on documents we provide.

 

Africa Defense Forum (ADF) magazine is published quarterly by U.S. Africa Command to provide an international forum for African security professionals. ADF magazine spans all 54 countries of the African continent, with feature articles on topical security issues such as counter terrorism strategies, civil-military relations, professionalism, transnational crime, and all other issues affecting peace, stability, and good governance. 

[RK93_HO 4]

6 hours ago, JeanneAdil said:

I am so sorry u have gone thru all this and my journey so i do understand the frustration but u must accept what was decided at embassy level from CO's who best know the country 

to be considered a terrorist he would have been either reported by other county men or under the watch eye of ADF

 

This is why

 

Violent extremist organizations from northern Benin and Burkina Faso are increasingly targeting northern Togo as conflicts from the Sahel spill into coastal countries.

https://adf-magazine.com/2024/07/terror-attacks-increase-in-togo-as-sahel-extremists-encroach/

 

DOJ takes the info given out by the African Defense forum as serious and does not solely rely on documents we provide.

 

Africa Defense Forum (ADF) magazine is published quarterly by U.S. Africa Command to provide an international forum for African security professionals. ADF magazine spans all 54 countries of the African continent, with feature articles on topical security issues such as counter terrorism strategies, civil-military relations, professionalism, transnational crime, and all other issues affecting peace, stability, and good governance. 

My husband is not African. He is of lebanese origin but has been living in Togo since 2001. 

[RK93_HO 4]

7 hours ago, Boiler said:

(B) Terrorist activities
(i) In general
Any alien who-

(I) has engaged in a terrorist activity;

(II) a consular officer, the Attorney General, or the Secretary of Homeland Security knows, or has reasonable ground to believe, is engaged in or is likely to engage after entry in any terrorist activity (as defined in clause (iv));

(III) has, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily harm, incited terrorist activity;

(IV) is a representative (as defined in clause (v)) of-

(aa) a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or

(bb) a political, social, or other group that endorses or espouses terrorist activity;

(V) is a member of a terrorist organization described in subclause (I) or (II) of clause (vi);

(VI) is a member of a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the alien can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that the alien did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization;

(VII) endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity or support a terrorist organization;

(VIII) has received military-type training (as defined in section 2339D(c)(1) of title 18) from or on behalf of any organization that, at the time the training was received, was a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or

(IX) is the spouse or child of an alien who is inadmissible under this subparagraph, if the activity causing the alien to be found inadmissible occurred within the last 5 years,

 is inadmissible. An alien who is an officer, official, representative, or spokesman of the Palestine Liberation Organization is considered, for purposes of this chapter, to be engaged in a terrorist activity.

 

This?

 

[SalishSea 18,274]

1 minute ago, Rabab-Hussein said:

My husband is not African. He is of lebanese origin but has been living in Togo since 2001. 

There must have been some credible connection to terror organizations.   These things don’t happen without a reason…

[RK93_HO 4]

1 minute ago, SalishSea said:

There must have been some credible connection to terror organizations.   These things don’t happen without a reason…

He used to work in the states on a b1/b2 visa before i applied for his papers and he never had problems. It is a long story of false information and he has been interviews many times and sent so many documents showing his whole life here and how he lived in the states. After today we actually gave up. We have 4 children so we cannot keep on living this life of waiting.

[SalishSea 18,274]

1 minute ago, Rabab-Hussein said:

He used to work in the states on a b1/b2 visa before i applied for his papers and he never had problems. It is a long story of false information and he has been interviews many times and sent so many documents showing his whole life here and how he lived in the states. After today we actually gave up. We have 4 children so we cannot keep on living this life of waiting.

Well, it wasn’t great that he worked illegally, but that wouldn’t be the reason for the denial, as there would be a waiver for that….

[Scandi 4,205]

1 hour ago, SalishSea said:

There must have been some credible connection to terror organizations.   These things don’t happen without a reason…

Makes you wonder if hubby has secrets OP doesn't know about.

[RK93_HO 4]

2 hours ago, SalishSea said:

Well, it wasn’t great that he worked illegally, but that wouldn’t be the reason for the denial, as there would be a waiver for that….

That is not the point. They already know and have all that information. It was not work or he was getting paid. He attended auctions to export vehicles and the embassy has all documents and he kept on getting visa for the same reason and was never refused. 

[Scandi 4,205]

58 minutes ago, RK93_HO said:

That is not the point. They already know and have all that information. It was not work or he was getting paid. He attended auctions to export vehicles and the embassy has all documents and he kept on getting visa for the same reason and was never refused. 

I'm talking about terrorist ties that you might not know about. Not saying that's what it is, I don't know anything, but clearly they have found something. When you read all the crazy stories on here about how little many spouses actually know each other, you tend to keep that in the back of your mind. Anything's possible. 

[SJinCA 34]

 

5 hours ago, RK93_HO said:

My husband is not African. He is of lebanese origin but has been living in Togo since 2001. 

If your husband is Lebanese, he may have been associated at some point with Hizbullah, the PLO, or other Palestinian resistance groups. That of course does not necessarily make him a "terrorist" -- these groups have political wings and other branches which are not involved in violent militant activities -- but given the U.S.' position towards these groups, any association whatsoever, even an indirect familial association, would likely be enough to brand him a "terrorist" in the eyes of the State Department.

 

I'm very sorry that you've been through such a difficult journey, and I wish your family peace for the future.

[Boiler 46,398]

I am sure the OP knows what the issue is.

[TBoneTX 46,435]

1.  There's an issue.  A distinct issue.

2.  Blessings to the OP and her family in their lives abroad.