USCIS's illegal actions - Attention all Ukraine, Cuba, Haiti, Venezuela, and Nicaragua immigrants

[Boiler 46,531]

Whatever you think of HP I am not sure how you can complain about the fees, an absolute steal for what you get.

[Dashinka 25,163]

8 hours ago, wazzujoel said:

 

This response to what you quoted don't line up. I am not upset that Trump prematurely ended the parole for immigrants that came here with the program. That's within his power but it's kinda a not-nice thing to do... The nice thing to do would have been to just allow those that arrived to have their 2 year temporary stay and then go back to their country. What I am personally upset about is USCIS is not processing residency applications for people that arrived with this program. 

 

For example - If my fiancée had come by this CNHV program, we then married here, and applied for her residency based on our legal lawful marriage....  Trump has instructed USCIS to NOT process that application. That application is on a "indefinite hold" which means that USCIS will not process this application that we paid $1,440 to be processed unless the courts put a stop to this illegal actions or new president is elected.

 

I can tell you that with the enemies he has made this term... Good bye Republican party. From not on I will be voting very strongly Democrat across the board...  I don't even care who is running. Could be cloned Joseph Stalin and he has my vote. 

Can you please also show me their immigration status and a quick blurb on their crimes? 

You do realize this is one of those 80/20 issues where the Democrats are defending the 20%.  Whatever, as to political parties, it appears the Democrats are the party in disarray as their schemes always seem to backfire with all their unintended consequences.  You discount the fraud that came with what Old Corrupt Joe Biden did, but that is important to many people.  Fraud is one of the reasons it is almost impossible for people from some countries to get a B2.  Should U.S. consulates give out B2’s to anyone that applies, or extend the VWP to every country?  I am sure there are people not committing fraud, most of them likely, but it takes only one bad apple to upset that.  Back when my girlfriend/fiancé applied for her B2, both her and I were certain she would not overstay, but regardless she was denied twice due to too many instances of previous fraud/overstays.

 

Btw, you keep saying Trump instructed USCIS to stop processing AOS, I am having a hard time finding this information aside from immigration lawyers trying to drum up business.  Do you have a specific source that shows this occurred explicitly?

[Crazy Cat 42,918]

31 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Btw, you keep saying Trump instructed USCIS to stop processing AOS, I am having a hard time finding this information aside from immigration lawyers trying to drum up business.  Do you have a specific source that shows this occurred explicitly?

I'm interested in seeing this source, too.

[hplusj 263]

On 3/22/2025 at 8:18 PM, wazzujoel said:

Good bye Republican party. From not on I will be voting very strongly Democrat across the board...  I don't even care who is running. Could be cloned Joseph Stalin and he has my vote. 

I thought Trump was the only one to speak in exaggerated hyperbole.  Guess it's not a problem anymore.

 

The whole argument is ludicrous.  Wagging fingers and saying everyone else is lying without providing credible sources because they don't exist beyond some Reddit community freakout posts is a complete waste of time.

 

But it is entertaining...

Edited Monday at 01:13 PM by hplusj

[Crazy Cat 42,918]

On 3/22/2025 at 8:18 PM, wazzujoel said:

What I am personally upset about is USCIS is not processing residency applications for people that arrived with this program. 

I'm still waiting for a source.  I can't find it. 

[Dashinka 25,163]

This was interesting and somewhat related.  Didn't we see something similar in Trump's first term?  Btw, I am not sure I agree with the numbers given the vast frontier of the US Canadian border with so many areas unguarded and unmonitored.  The basis for the drug numbers is related to the amount seized, not the amount that gets through.

 

On the Canadian border with a Mexican cartel smuggler

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/on-the-canadian-border-with-a-mexican-cartel-smuggler/ar-AA1BvqIl

[wazzujoel 92]

On 3/23/2025 at 6:05 AM, Dashinka said:

Btw, you keep saying Trump instructed USCIS to stop processing AOS, I am having a hard time finding this information aside from immigration lawyers trying to drum up business.  Do you have a specific source that shows this occurred explicitly?

 

No, I don't have a source, and I will admit that I am filling in the pieces here.

 

The only public source I have is the CBS article (that I have posted) talking about the leaked internal USCIS memo. I've also chatted with an unnamed USCIS agent on a different social media platform, and based on their post history I felt it was pretty credible that they are in fact an agent that is working on adjudicating cases, and this alleged agent did confirm to existence of the memo and stated they are not processing any applications for people that arrived on CHNV and the Ukraine program (forget the name). I've also talked with my congressman's team and they have also confirmed that this is their understanding of what is happening too and they are working to this direction changed. Finally there is a lawsuit that is being heard today in MA brought by the National Action Center regarding this "indefinite hold" on applications from people that arrived on CHNV and Ukraine's program. 

 

Now where I am personally filling in the gaps is with the motivation for this memo and this new direction USCIS has taken. In life, I like to consider the data and then make conclusions based on what is the most likely cause of that action. In this case the data is everything I just said above regarding USCIS, and Trumps actions calling people that arrived on CHNV "illegal" that "Biden should have never allowed them" and then the most recent executive order that is attacking these lawful people. If I ask myself, what's the most likely cause of this memo? Is it something that the new USCIS head just invented in his head that's a departure from how the organization has been handling thing, or could maybe Trump had advised him to go down this path? You're right, I have no proof, and I fully admit I could be wring and it could not be direction coming from the potus..... However it sure smells like it.   

[wazzujoel 92]

1 hour ago, Crazy Cat said:

I'm still waiting for a source.  I can't find it. 

 

Did you want the source that USCIS has put on "indefinite hold" the processing of all legal applications from CHNV people? I can link that again... 

 

Or do you want proof this USCIS "indefinite hold" came from trump? As I just wrote, that was gap-filling I personally did. Question though - Would that even matter? Do you think Trump would have told USCIS not to do what they are doing? Or do you think he would tell them "good job putting an indefinite hold"? I don't really feel what I said should be all that controversial. it's absolutely 100% aligned with his war on immigration. 

[Dashinka 25,163]

7 minutes ago, wazzujoel said:

 

No, I don't have a source, and I will admit that I am filling in the pieces here.

 

The only public source I have is the CBS article (that I have posted) talking about the leaked internal USCIS memo. I've also chatted with an unnamed USCIS agent on a different social media platform, and based on their post history I felt it was pretty credible that they are in fact an agent that is working on adjudicating cases, and this alleged agent did confirm to existence of the memo and stated they are not processing any applications for people that arrived on CHNV and the Ukraine program (forget the name). I've also talked with my congressman's team and they have also confirmed that this is their understanding of what is happening too and they are working to this direction changed. Finally there is a lawsuit that is being heard today in MA brought by the National Action Center regarding this "indefinite hold" on applications from people that arrived on CHNV and Ukraine's program. 

 

Now where I am personally filling in the gaps is with the motivation for this memo and this new direction USCIS has taken. In life, I like to consider the data and then make conclusions based on what is the most likely cause of that action. In this case the data is everything I just said above regarding USCIS, and Trumps actions calling people that arrived on CHNV "illegal" that "Biden should have never allowed them" and then the most recent executive order that is attacking these lawful people. If I ask myself, what's the most likely cause of this memo? Is it something that the new USCIS head just invented in his head that's a departure from how the organization has been handling thing, or could maybe Trump had advised him to go down this path? You're right, I have no proof, and I fully admit I could be wring and it could not be direction coming from the potus..... However it sure smells like it.   

I expect the motivation at least for the Cubans, is related to their eligibility to AOS via the Cuban Adjustment Act.  Since many people believe the Biden program was illegal, then people using it would not meet the "inspected and paroled" requirement to AOS.  That is just spit balling, but it is clear that many feel that Biden's program was unlawful to begin with.  As to the others (Ukrainians, Venezuelans, Haitians), I don't believe they enjoy the same benefit to AOS as the Cuban do, but I could be wrong.

[wazzujoel 92]

6 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

I expect the motivation at least for the Cubans, is related to their eligibility to AOS via the Cuban Adjustment Act.  Since many people believe the Biden program was illegal, then people using it would not meet the "inspected and paroled" requirement to AOS.  That is just spit balling, but it is clear that many feel that Biden's program was unlawful to begin with.  As to the others (Ukrainians, Venezuelans, Haitians), I don't believe they enjoy the same benefit to AOS as the Cuban do, but I could be wrong.

 

I have a document from Homeland Security that clearly states that the 5 people I sponsored were "inspected and paroled" to the USA. It's stamped with their legal endorsement. 

[Dashinka 25,163]

2 minutes ago, wazzujoel said:

 

I have a document from Homeland Security that clearly states that the 5 people I sponsored were "inspected and paroled" to the USA. It's stamped with their legal endorsement. 

And possibly a federal judge will agree, but until that takes place, I suspect these applications will stay on hold if they even are.

[TBoneTX 46,612]

Brother, the change in administrations has involved a change in focus from poorly controlled, random, arguably overpermissive, or absent immigration policy to something for which a majority of the American people voted and remain happy with, if current polls are acknowledged.

 

The current administration is acting in accord with public desire.  Sorry if you object, but your dual recourse is to (1) vote for candidates who support your position and (2) hope that enough of your fellow citizens agree with you.  In your specific case, maybe a breakthrough will occur, and no one here begrudges it.  Your frustration is natural and understood, but bear in mind that the immigration-policy pendulum has swung.

[wazzujoel 92]

Only caring about your own rights, is the recipe for losing your rights. 

 

(Not directed any anyone in particular... Just something reading this post should keep in mind. )

[Boiler 46,531]

I think the CAA should have been chopped decades ago, but it want so like a lot of other things here we are.

 

HP, I do not see how you can say they were not inspected and I seriously doubt that will be an issue.

 

HP is basically a 2 year visit visa with some very nice benefits, and for most people that will be it. I had assumed they would just let it tun out and I had aslo assumed many would overstay.

 

A complete disaster, but Biden has gone and the ####### he caused will take a long time to sort out.

[Dashinka 25,163]

36 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I think the CAA should have been chopped decades ago, but it want so like a lot of other things here we are.

 

HP, I do not see how you can say they were not inspected and I seriously doubt that will be an issue.

 

HP is basically a 2 year visit visa with some very nice benefits, and for most people that will be it. I had assumed they would just let it tun out and I had aslo assumed many would overstay.

 

A complete disaster, but Biden has gone and the ####### he caused will take a long time to sort out.

I tend to agree.  I was only hypothesizing on a possible reason CAA AOSs would be put on hold, to wait out challenges to the legality of the Biden very loose HP.  I suspect the current administration will lose that battle in the end, but it will delay a lot of processing until then.