Updating Global Entry citizenship status online.

[Rekyrts 118]

On 4/12/2025 at 5:38 PM, OldUser said:

My request got processed yesterday, thank you @top_secret!

 

One fun fact: replacing new GE card due to change of citizenship has $25 fee! Charged to one of my credit cards since I get it reimbursed.

 

Yep, they charge for the new cards.

Awesome if cc reimburses for the card fee; good idea. My mind only though of actual application fee with regards to reimbursement.

[OldUser 8,788]

1 hour ago, Rekyrts said:

 

Yep, they charge for the new cards.

Awesome if cc reimburses for the card fee; good idea. My mind only though of actual application fee with regards to reimbursement.

I didn't see the wording saying they won't cover it, so I gave it a try. Have multiple cards covering GE fees, so this one I never charged any renewal fees to.

 

Will post here whether I get reimbursement. Transaction coded properly, just like a normal application for GE. If I have to cover $25 out of my pocket, it won't be end of the world.

[top_secret 2,622]

They went through LAX trouble free today so it officially works.

 

Global Entry had a new (to me) facial recognition system at LAX TBIT today whereby they completely eliminated the kiosks altogether.  They are gone. Now there are just two lanes with a screen next to them and people walk up and get flashed, green screen "GO" or red screen see the officer.  It was practically instantaneous and barely even required anyone to break their stride walking out of the airport.  You literally just walk straight through and out the door. If it wasn’t for some people people stopping because they were obviously confused about the meaning of the green "GO" screen, I’m sure is could handle a person every few seconds non stop.

For the cards I figured, although citizenship is written on it, the main function of the card it just the RFID which is scanned if you use it crossing a land border.  It should link to whatever is in their server and that is what the CBP Officer sees on his screen.  If they required any further proof of citizenship or ID they would need to see a passport card or book, not the Global Entry Card.  So we didn't bother updating the cards.  But haven't tested that theory either.😁
 

Edited April 15 by top_secret

[OldUser 8,788]

16 minutes ago, top_secret said:

For the cards I figured, although citizenship is written on it, the main function of the card it just the RFID which is scanned if you use it crossing a land border.  It should link to whatever is in their server and that is what the CBP Officer sees on his screen.  If they required any further proof of citizenship or ID they would need to see a passport card or book, not the Global Entry Card.  So we didn't bother updating the cards.  But haven't tested that theory either.😁
 

I just think of trying using Global Entry card as an ID for purchases in stores etc as it doesn't have my home address on it 😃 Maybe as an additional proof of US citizenship if I need it.

[OldUser 8,788]

15 minutes ago, OldUser said:

I just think of trying using Global Entry card as an ID for purchases in stores etc as it doesn't have my home address on it 😃 Maybe as an additional proof of US citizenship if I need it.

And yes, actually one time, when travelling on expired GC and extension letter, kiosk told me to see a human. And he asked me whether I had a GE card to prove I have GE. Because I didn't have it on me, he asked for passport and GC.

Edited April 15 by OldUser

[TBoneTX 46,823]

The last several posts raise questions.  Yes, a GE card substitutes for a passport at U.S. POE.  But do other countries recognize and accept it just as readily as our CBP does?  If yes, does this mean that a USC could carry a GE card abroad instead of carrying a passport?  What about countries that stamp foreigners' passports on entry or entry/exit?

Edited April 15 by TBoneTX

[top_secret 2,622]

I think the Global Entry Card is just proof someone has Global Entry.  It is not really stand alone PROOF of any citizenship.  Under most circumstances Global Entry allows someone enter without showing any documents but it's not guaranteed and they definitely are going want to see a real passport book or card if there is any question.

 

Once some corrupt Tijuana police was hassling us and when he saw my wife's Global Entry card he asked "SENTRI ?".  We said yea SENTRI and for some reason he instantly got all polite, handed it back and left.  I have no idea why that made a difference but it somehow impressed a corrupt TJ cop one time.
 

[OldUser 8,788]

2 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Yes, a GE card substitutes for a passport at U.S. POE.  But do other countries recognize and accept it just as readily as our CBP does?

Good question! I traveled to some places in the world where they were requiring to show ID to make a purchase or verify age.

 

They happily took DL, but I wasn't so happy about people taking copies of it, because I did not fully trust data protection laws.

 

Next time I'll try GE card instead and post my experience. I know in the US there's a small group of advocates for using it as form of ID to ensure your personal info such as home address doesn't get known by a cashier guy selling you a bottle of beer.

 

[OldUser 8,788]

2 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

 If yes, does this mean that a USC could carry a GE card abroad instead of carrying a passport?  What about countries that stamp foreigners' passports on entry or entry/exit?

Yes, passport book is required 100%. And most other country authorities will ask for passport book. I'm thinking of scenario of going to a bar / club overseas and not carrying passport book out of fear of losing or damaging it.

[ODATT 76]

20 minutes ago, OldUser said:

Good question! I traveled to some places in the world where they were requiring to show ID to make a purchase or verify age.

 

They happily took DL, but I wasn't so happy about people taking copies of it, because I did not fully trust data protection laws.

 

Next time I'll try GE card instead and post my experience. I know in the US there's a small group of advocates for using it as form of ID to ensure your personal info such as home address doesn't get known by a cashier guy selling you a bottle of beer.

 

I would trust Europe with that data than US. 

[top_secret 2,622]

3 hours ago, OldUser said:

I just think of trying using Global Entry card as an ID for purchases in stores etc as it doesn't have my home address on it 😃 Maybe as an additional proof of US citizenship if I need it.

 

It is a valid "REAL ID" without address in circumstances where that may be relevant.

[OldUser 8,788]

27 minutes ago, ODATT said:

I would trust Europe with that data than US. 

Europe is big and diverse.

UK vs Russia

Denmark vs Moldova

Germany vs Belarus

 

Spoiler alert, it wasn't in Europe where I doubted their privacy practices. Besides taking physical copies, many establishments wanted to take photos of DL on their phones and send somewhere over WhatsApp to get confirmation.

I'm not going to give away country name though, as I don't want to badmouth otherwise a good nation of welcoming people. 

Edited April 15 by OldUser

[OldUser 8,788]

OK, I researched the subject more. It doesn't appear GE card proves citizenship other than in context of using GE lanes. It has "citizenship" field, but it cannot be used at SSA, DMV etc. Bummer. But I'll still try to use as a casual ID verification and write back my experience. 

Edited April 15 by OldUser

[ODATT 76]

2 hours ago, OldUser said:

OK, I researched the subject more. It doesn't appear GE card proves citizenship other than in context of using GE lanes. It has "citizenship" field, but it cannot be used at SSA, DMV etc. Bummer. But I'll still try to use as a casual ID verification and write back my experience. 

I thought GE can be used to get entry at any of the federal buildings. Oh well

[Crazy Cat 43,327]

3 hours ago, ODATT said:

I thought GE can be used to get entry at any of the federal buildings. Oh well

Getting entry is not the same as proving citizenship.  In many cases, the only proof of citizenship are either a US Passport or a Naturalization Certificate.