Number of times married question

[D Dub718 3]

Hello. I will be assisting my wife with filing her N-400. She has her 10-year GC via K1 visa. We got married in a civil wedding here in NY. We recently came back from the Philippines where we married again in a Church wedding. Should her answer be "2" times married for the N-400? We also don't have any official "proof" of our church wedding besides photos, vendor receipts and receipts from the church. Will that suffice?

[Crazy Cat 42,620]

2 hours ago, D Dub718 said:

Should her answer be "2" times married for the N-400?

No.  USCIS recognizes your civil wedding as your marriage.  If you enter "2", USCIS is going to demand documentation terminating marriage #1.

Edited 23 hours ago by Crazy Cat

[D Dub718 3]

12 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

No.  USCIS recognizes your civil wedding as your marriage.

The online app for N-400 states "Include your current marriage, any marriages before or during your current marriage, marriages in the United States, marriages in other countries, annulled marriages, civil marriages, customary or religious marriages, marriages to other people, and marriages to the same person, whether or not the marriage was registered with a government.

If you were married to the same person more than one time, count each time as a separate marriage."

 

 

[Crazy Cat 42,620]

36 minutes ago, D Dub718 said:

The online app for N-400 states "Include your current marriage, any marriages before or during your current marriage, marriages in the United States, marriages in other countries, annulled marriages, civil marriages, customary or religious marriages, marriages to other people, and marriages to the same person, whether or not the marriage was registered with a government.

If you were married to the same person more than one time, count each time as a separate marriage."

 

 

 

Unless you were divorced from each other between the marriages, you won't be able to provide documentation of termination of all previous marriages prior to your current marriage........which is required. Without documentation that the first marriage was terminated, USCIS would not recognize the ceremony in PI as a marriage.

 

M-477.pdf

 □ Proof of termination of all prior marriages of your spouse (divorce decree(s), annulment(s), or death certificate(s));

 □ Proof that all earlier marriages ended (divorce decree(s), annulment(s), or death certificates(s)).

 

I would not list the ceremony in PI as a marriage.  I would consider it as a celebration or re-commitment...but not a marriage.

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 10:24 PM by Crazy Cat

[Crazy Cat 42,620]

40 minutes ago, D Dub718 said:

The online app for N-400 states "Include your current marriage, any marriages before or during your current marriage, marriages in the United States, marriages in other countries, annulled marriages, civil marriages, customary or religious marriages, marriages to other people, and marriages to the same person, whether or not the marriage was registered with a government.

If you were married to the same person more than one time, count each time as a separate marriage."

 

 

USCIS could have worded that better.  USCIS will not recognize a marriage as valid unless all prior marriages were formally terminated.

[SJinCA 34]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems the confusion here is that you're reading "marriage" to mean "wedding celebration," whereas USCIS means "marriage" as "a marital relationship with a particular individual."

[EM_Vandaveer 2,417]

6 hours ago, SJinCA said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems the confusion here is that you're reading "marriage" to mean "wedding celebration," whereas USCIS means "marriage" as "a marital relationship with a particular individual."

This, so much so.