Visa Denied

[karina 0]

Ron & Sharon,

im sorry to hear about the temporary obstacle! that is absurd! i hope it gets resolved soon! do you think contacting your local congressman will help push things through?

We are all rooting for you guys! take care!

[Lona.C. 16]

Damn this sux big time , I meen how can they find all this stuff when your police certificate come out clear ? and my god all this happend in the 70s

geez how far are they goin back too ? another thing is ( in the 70s I was just a lil lea )

but hey 60 - 70s was flower power I bet everyone experimented with a smoke

I just hope things work out

[Ron/Sharon 0]

Visa Denied, received a I-601 will fill in details later.

Oh my God Ron, what happened? I hope it can be resolved soon. Let us know.

Thinking of you both, L.

The denial should not have happened as per my thinking but what do I know, I don't make the rules.

The two reason for my denial are: 1. Section 221(g) Need follow-up with medical for alcoholism.

Alcoholism has not been a problem in my life as far as I am concerned. I have been in the past a heavy but not a regular drinker, alcohol was not necessity but a social tool that at times was overdone. I had been alcohol free for the past 22+ years and now I need tests to prove that I am not only alcohol free but drug (no use since 1970) free.

2. Section 212(a)(2)(A)(1) Car theft 24-JUL-1976 in British Columbia. This happened 31 years ago and has been pardoned over 20 years ago. For the record no theft as is was involved, I was loaned the auto but after a accident the owner a friend after being contacted by the police filed auto theft charges to save his butt. I pled guilty as the charge carried a 90 day suspended sentence.

At present I know I must file the I-601 waiver at a cost of $545.00.

Right now I am waiting for a call from the Dr regarding what needs to be done and the cost involved.

At this moment in time I can't beleive this is not a money grab on their part.

As for the interview at Montreal, everything was pleasant and went very well. One this I did that they didn't like very much was I had pre-paid at the Scotia Bank using the Consonidated Cash Plan Deposit - US Treasury - Visa Application Fee. That is not to be used for Immigration, only for visitor visas. They did accept it after a huddle with others, and yes they prefer that the fee be paid in Montreal at the Consulate.

Sorry to hear Ron. I thought the fee was $265.00 for the I-601, wow $545.00 does sound like a cash grab. I was to tell you about the Scotiabank part but I got back from Montreal and read your post the day of your interview so it was already too late. There was a couple who also paid at Scotiabank on the day of my interview and they gave them a hard time but ultimately accepted the Scotiabank receipt as proof of payment.

Good luck with the waiver.

Lance

The new fee is $545.00 for the I-601 and another $545.00 if you have to file a I-212 also. The Scotia bank payment was accepted without anything being said of than I don't think we can accept this, but it was without giving me a hard time, I think Debie the person who put everything together was just thinking out loud. So it is accepted but still better not done in case they do decide at some point to not take it.

[Ron/Sharon 0]

Visa Denied, received a I-601 will fill in details later.

Oh my God Ron, what happened? I hope it can be resolved soon. Let us know.

Thinking of you both, L.

The denial should not have happened as per my thinking but what do I know, I don't make the rules.

The two reason for my denial are: 1. Section 221(g) Need follow-up with medical for alcoholism.

Alcoholism has not been a problem in my life as far as I am concerned. I have been in the past a heavy but not a regular drinker, alcohol was not necessity but a social tool that at times was overdone. I had been alcohol free for the past 22+ years and now I need tests to prove that I am not only alcohol free but drug (no use since 1970) free.

2. Section 212(a)(2)(A)(1) Car theft 24-JUL-1976 in British Columbia. This happened 31 years ago and has been pardoned over 20 years ago. For the record no theft as is was involved, I was loaned the auto but after a accident the owner a friend after being contacted by the police filed auto theft charges to save his butt. I pled guilty as the charge carried a 90 day suspended sentence.

At present I know I must file the I-601 waiver at a cost of $545.00.

Right now I am waiting for a call from the Dr regarding what needs to be done and the cost involved.

At this moment in time I can't beleive this is not a money grab on their part.

As for the interview at Montreal, everything was pleasant and went very well. One this I did that they didn't like very much was I had pre-paid at the Scotia Bank using the Consonidated Cash Plan Deposit - US Treasury - Visa Application Fee. That is not to be used for Immigration, only for visitor visas. They did accept it after a huddle with others, and yes they prefer that the fee be paid in Montreal at the Consulate.

OMFG, you have to be kidding. Can this process get any more asinine? Please tell me you don't have to go for another interview and wait again. Sorry and hang in there.

I don't beleive that another interview is necessary, once the i_601 is sent to the consulate they will send it to Vermont for a review and returned to Montreal at which time I may be advised that the petition is denied or asked to return to Montreaal to pick up the visa.

This is payback time for having been stupid a long time ago.

[Ron/Sharon 0]

The denial should not have happened as per my thinking but what do I know, I don't make the rules.

The two reason for my denial are: 1. Section 221(g) Need follow-up with medical for alcoholism.

Alcoholism has not been a problem in my life as far as I am concerned. I have been in the past a heavy but not a regular drinker, alcohol was not necessity but a social tool that at times was overdone. I had been alcohol free for the past 22+ years and now I need tests to prove that I am not only alcohol free but drug (no use since 1970) free.

2. Section 212(a)(2)(A)(1) Car theft 24-JUL-1976 in British Columbia. This happened 31 years ago and has been pardoned over 20 years ago. For the record no theft as is was involved, I was loaned the auto but after a accident the owner a friend after being contacted by the police filed auto theft charges to save his butt. I pled guilty as the charge carried a 90 day suspended sentence.

At present I know I must file the I-601 waiver at a cost of $545.00.

Right now I am waiting for a call from the Dr regarding what needs to be done and the cost involved.

At this moment in time I can't beleive this is not a money grab on their part.

As for the interview at Montreal, everything was pleasant and went very well. One this I did that they didn't like very much was I had pre-paid at the Scotia Bank using the Consonidated Cash Plan Deposit - US Treasury - Visa Application Fee. That is not to be used for Immigration, only for visitor visas. They did accept it after a huddle with others, and yes they prefer that the fee be paid in Montreal at the Consulate.

#######?!?!? Alcohol free for more than 20 years and they come up with this cr@p? How come? Where did they get that sh!t from? Does not make sense. What a bunch of a-holes. I am so very sorry Ron (tried to PM you but got bounced message thing or the like). Man, I hope you sort this through soon - I am sure you will. and yup, sounds like a cash cow strategy to me.

Best of wishes, L.

Wouldn't this just drive you to drink, this and being a single parent for the past 10 years. For many years I looked for a good reason to quite drinking completely having the acident seemed to not be enough to quite but enough to cut back. Since 1976 I had cut my drinking down to the point that in 1984 i was drinking on paydays only, when told by my then wife she was prergnant that was all I needed to be alcohol free and have been ever since. The cash cow strategy here is the part of the criminal offense which happened 31 years ago and no further offenses have appeared on my record since.

[Ron/Sharon 0]

wow, i'm really sorry, ron and sharon. i hope you are able to get it resolved quickly.

that really scares me now. can they really keep people out just because they did drugs or alcohol in the past?

what the hell kinda medicals are they doing?? what if a person experimented in their in younger days, but does nothing now but have 2 or 3 beers on the weekend? come on, man, alcohol isn't illegal! does anybody know where i can find rules pertaining to this or what exactly is done and/or looked for during the medical?

Don't get over heated this is about me and my responses to the Dr. You have to remember that they are checking back to the days when you were 16 or 18 I can't remember right now. The question of alcohol came up on the questionnaire at the Dr.s office, I did tell her that I was a heavy drinker, but never drank at home or on Sundays, she did tell me that that could be a problem and grounds for a denial. Thest being asked for is just to prove what I said was true. of the two reasons for the I-601 this is the only one that I find deserving of the requested action.

[Ron/Sharon 0]

Dammit! Of all the people on here, you have to be the nicest, most considerate in my humble opinion. What you are dealing with is our government in action. If it's some policy somewhere in a stack of official government paperwork that was typed in triplicate back in 1947, they are gonna go by that to CYA. That's all it amounts to. "Cover my A** in case this ever gets reviewed by someone higher up than me. I have a nice cushy job here at the Consulate basically doing nothing, and I sure wouldn't want to lose that!" I hope your fiancee goes to their representatives and Senators about that. Something THAT long ago on a record with nothing thereafter is kind of silly to even consider. I for one would trust ya with MY car. I know nothing is going to make you feel much better at the moment, but you've got a LOT of friends here pulling for a VERY QUICK resolution to this matter, and praying for it!

Keep us informed.

All our love,

Alan & Sharon

Alan & Sharon, Thank you very much for your thoughts and words, my Sharon agrees with you and also thanks you very much, and don't lend me your car, the last time I drove was the time that is causing this I-601 to be. The way I see this is that the consulate has no authority over making decission regarding criminal matters or medical matters, all they can do is say yes to clear cut, straight forward petitions that raise no questions what-so-ever. I beleive the consulate did what they are mandated to do, they are facilitators not adjudicators. Even though I feel as you do in their attempt to cover themselves, I know how the game is played having been a combined and still am a public servant for well over 20 year.

[Ron/Sharon 0]

Ron/Sharon, sorry to hear the unexpected obstacle with your visa. Sounds like you will be able to work through this just fine though, and we are all rooting for you!

Out of curiousity, how did they find out about the alcohol consumption 22 years ago? The reason I'm asking is when I was filling out my medical form, there was a spot where I was supposed to check yes or no for drug use, and I had to ask the doc what to check off there (I had tried marijuana a few times as a teenager, but haven't touched it since..ew.)

Anyways, just curious if I might run into the same problem as you. We ended up checking "no", but maybe the doc made a side note somewhere on the medical that I had tried marijuana as a teenager. If there was to be an obstacle because of this at the interview, I'd rather find out sooner than later.

Anyways, best of luck to you! I'm sure this will only be a brief setback, and that you will have your visa in hand in no time:)

Misty 1979, I can't tell you what your Dr. did regarding side note, I know that mine did, I did tick yes in the alcohol problem box but spent a good time telling the doctor that drinkin was a social thing eventhough I did go overboard sometime. Since you checked no that I beleive it the end of that subject and not something you need to both about, remember that my situation is about me, my actions nd responses at the medical. you obviously have done things right and very well.

[Ron/Sharon 0]

Ron & Sharon,

im sorry to hear about the temporary obstacle! that is absurd! i hope it gets resolved soon! do you think contacting your local congressman will help push things through?

We are all rooting for you guys! take care!

The congressman is Sharon's and I think all they could get is a reply that I must go through a review as the consulate has decided so in thi matter.

[Ron/Sharon 0]

Damn this sux big time , I meen how can they find all this stuff when your police certificate come out clear ? and my god all this happend in the 70s

geez how far are they goin back too ? another thing is ( in the 70s I was just a lil lea )

but hey 60 - 70s was flower power I bet everyone experimented with a smoke

I just hope things work out

What I got from the consulate was that this is an indictable offense in the states and therefore further action is required. For the past 17 years I have been working in the federal government for a deputy minister, I would think that having a security clearance and being in my position would have had some weight but obviously not at all.

[Lona.C. 16]

Damn this sux big time , I meen how can they find all this stuff when your police certificate come out clear ? and my god all this happend in the 70s

geez how far are they goin back too ? another thing is ( in the 70s I was just a lil lea )

but hey 60 - 70s was flower power I bet everyone experimented with a smoke

I just hope things work out

What I got from the consulate was that this is an indictable offense in the states and therefore further action is required. For the past 17 years I have been working in the federal government for a deputy minister, I would think that having a security clearance and being in my position would have had some weight but obviously not at all.

we all made mistakes in the past nobody is perfect but to hold something that is well over aged and you have been cleard off ,against you when you have proven to be a loyal upright citizen is just wrong ,

I feel for you and sharon and the price is outragous what they charge for the waver , but as long as it will help you guys i realy wish you all the best and keep us up to date , good luck with everything to the both of you , Lona

[Chica Yeyé 41]

Time for me to shut up before I add another 3 pages here. Thank you all for the support and words that mean so much to both Sharon and I.

I wish everyone an easy passage through the consulate, and to those I have misssed that have gone through, Congratulations nad life a wonderful life together.

Love you all.

Hey! You don't have to shut up - it's your life (and Sharon's) and we're your friends, so vent away amigo. This whole thing is cr@p - I told Bren about it and he is also pizzed off at MTL for having done this to you - you were honest and BOING! they slap you. A-holes. And, as an aside: don't drink today. just today.

[Tinker 0]

Truth hurts sometimes

I can understand that Ron had to tell everything. It's just not right when you do and it comes back to kick you in the butt.

This whole thing is like walking on eggshells, you try to do it the right way, be truthful and then you even have to worry about going for a simple visit.

[L_n_O 3]

ya, almost makes ppl who may have gone through the same issues in the past not mention it at all....

well, that's the lesson I got anyway

[Caladan 19]

Oh, man, Ron. I'm so sorry. Shouldn't this stuff be grandfathered in?