Student may still face being deported

[peejay 327]

You like the idea of an 'elite' being able to demand that one shows one's identity at their whim? Freedom is a precious gift, don't be so quick to wish it away

Freedom has absolutely nothing to do with 150 illegal aliens working under 1 government issued Social Security number that is someone elses' identity. Try doing anything in the USA without a Social Security number. The person using the Social Security number should actually be that person and the widespread fraud that has been occurring for too many years should not be aided and abetted by government.

Ever wonder why your doctor asks for valid government picture ID when presenting a medical insurance card for services? It's so 10 people don't use one medical insurance policy. That is just one of many examples in everyday life. So...go ahead and refuse your ID to everyone that asks for it and see where it gets you in the USA.

So private corporations can trample all over your precious freedom to stay 100% anonymous all the time, but government can't? I don't buy that lame reasoning. It's just bait and switch faulty logic. If we do anything to crack down on illegal aliens we automatically revert into a totalitarian state? That logic is just fear mongering to the gullible and ignorant.

I love freedom as much as any American, but having the freedom to have 25 aliases or to live illegally in the USA is not guaranteed under the US Constitution.

[babyandherboy 0]

You like the idea of an 'elite' being able to demand that one shows one's identity at their whim? Freedom is a precious gift, don't be so quick to wish it away

I wouldn't mind showing my ID at all, especially if it is to prove I am eligible for the free services someone else paid for. Freedom is your individual right to either follow the laws where you live, try to change them or to go somewhere else

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

You like the idea of an 'elite' being able to demand that one shows one's identity at their whim? Freedom is a precious gift, don't be so quick to wish it away

Precious and freedom truly belongs together. Asking for identification is far from being "elite" as far as I know mexico is free isnt it? I will say it again purple, leave your front door unlocked. Now sleep easy.

Edited August 13, 2007 by CarolsMarc

[isleta521 5]

"We want to go to school so we can give back to our community," he said. "I want to help people less fortunate than me. I realize knowledge is power ... that they can take away your freedom but they can't take away your knowledge.

Good, then when he gets deported he should concentrate his time and energy to improve HIS country than trying to give illegals more status in the US.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

"We want to go to school so we can give back to our community," he said. "I want to help people less fortunate than me. I realize knowledge is power ... that they can take away your freedom but they can't take away your knowledge.

Good, then when he gets deported he should concentrate his time and energy to improve HIS country than trying to give illegals more status in the US.

[Heracles 417]

Hmm... poor kid. But IS he that innocent if he was driving without a valid driver's license???

Yup. Now his stupidity will get him deported.

I don’t understand how come he was able to go to high school and college without a valid ID?!!! How is possible to live in a country for so many years, go to school, visit a doctor when you are sick etc. In my country and in Germany I can’t do anything without a valid ID or a passport where is stated that I have a student visa (for Germany). Please, can’t somebody explain it to me because I feel stupid

Because the USA does not have a national ID.

That said, the teenaged clerk at the local Piggly Wiggly grocery store can ask you for ID to cash a check or buy beer and an apartment leasing agent can ask for ID to run a credit check on you, but it is forbidden to ask anyone to prove they are legally in this country or that they are who they say they are to get many public and private services.

It's all set up for an illegal alien to thrive and survive relatively easy in the USA. And there are a lot of influential people that want it that way for their own self serving interests.

And now a lot of people are beginning to slowly awaken to the downside of an illegal alien friendly society. What you sow is what you reap.

A number of other countries now require proper identification to utilize tax payer funded services or to even start working. This is where I too believe, in the US, they are deliberately leaving doors open for illegal immigrants to use; without any checks. Tackling illegal immigration isn't rocket science. All it actually requires is enforcing the current laws.

Once the laws are strengthened and enforced we could have an advertising campaign, in Mexico, to tell them the doors are no longer open for use. Advise them of the facts that: No one will hire them. No one will rent to them. No more free access to tax payer funded services. 20 year ban. Absolutely no plan for amnesty.. etc..

Edited August 13, 2007 by Boo-Yah!

[ChristinaM 0]

Yes, he came here when he was 3. No, he had no choice in the matter. Yes, I feel bad for him - at least he is trying to do better things. But I thought the most salient sentence in the whole piece was this one:

"But we are a society of laws."

[almaty 19]

a society of laws and also, law breakers...

[one...two...tree 2,762]

a society of laws and also, law breakers...

...it all started with a party in Boston. Someone served tea and all hell broke loose.

[Sheriff Uling 3]

There's schools in Mexico where he can continue to seek his dream of becoming a lawyer. Get the degree and come back legally.

Amen! Enough is enough already with all these non-Americans attempting to acquire rights that are not granted to them as citizens. He could have potentially acquired a student visa. This is what happens when a country is overpopulated by any particular nationality IMO.

[ChristinaM 0]

a society of laws and also, law breakers...

...it all started with a party in Boston. Someone served tea and all hell broke loose.

Something about "taxation without representation", as I recall -

Which is something that a fair few of us on here, including Jinky, are dealing with without the need to riot.

Edited August 13, 2007 by ChristinaM

[almaty 19]

usa...is a country of laws..and lawyers...

there is not a usc person that has not broken a law within the last 2 weeks..

i went 5 miles over the speed limit today

Edited August 13, 2007 by almaty

[thetreble 19]

There's schools in Mexico where he can continue to seek his dream of becoming a lawyer. Get the degree and come back legally.

Amen! Enough is enough already with all these non-Americans attempting to acquire rights that are not granted to them as citizens. He could have potentially acquired a student visa. This is what happens when a country is overpopulated by any particular nationality IMO.

Alrightyyy then buckaroo, let's just shoot those who are "over-populating" our great nation over hereeee.

How could he have acquired a student visa? He would have to go home for one. He may have NO HOME to go to or no family considering he has been here since he was three. Then he would have to apply in which they might see he was illegal in the US for quite some time and deny him entry or a visa for a very long time.

Not saying what he did was right; I am saying that when you get taken somewhere when you are a child, growing up in that country is all you know. The guy probably knows FAR more about his surroundings in the US than he does of his home country of Mexico. Put yourself in his shoes. You get taken to a place which is out of your control and then YOU have to pay for the consequences? IT really sucks for the guy. Have some sympathy for him.

[Marilyn. 340]

There's schools in Mexico where he can continue to seek his dream of becoming a lawyer. Get the degree and come back legally.

Amen! Enough is enough already with all these non-Americans attempting to acquire rights that are not granted to them as citizens. He could have potentially acquired a student visa. This is what happens when a country is overpopulated by any particular nationality IMO.

Alrightyyy then buckaroo, let's just shoot those who are "over-populating" our great nation over hereeee.

How could he have acquired a student visa? He would have to go home for one. He may have NO HOME to go to or no family considering he has been here since he was three. Then he would have to apply in which they might see he was illegal in the US for quite some time and deny him entry or a visa for a very long time.

Not saying what he did was right; I am saying that when you get taken somewhere when you are a child, growing up in that country is all you know. The guy probably knows FAR more about his surroundings in the US than he does of his home country of Mexico. Put yourself in his shoes. You get taken to a place which is out of your control and then YOU have to pay for the consequences? IT really sucks for the guy. Have some sympathy for him.

I was going to post something very similar earlier...

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

There's schools in Mexico where he can continue to seek his dream of becoming a lawyer. Get the degree and come back legally.

Amen! Enough is enough already with all these non-Americans attempting to acquire rights that are not granted to them as citizens. He could have potentially acquired a student visa. This is what happens when a country is overpopulated by any particular nationality IMO.

Alrightyyy then buckaroo, let's just shoot those who are "over-populating" our great nation over hereeee.

How could he have acquired a student visa? He would have to go home for one. He may have NO HOME to go to or no family considering he has been here since he was three. Then he would have to apply in which they might see he was illegal in the US for quite some time and deny him entry or a visa for a very long time.

Not saying what he did was right; I am saying that when you get taken somewhere when you are a child, growing up in that country is all you know. The guy probably knows FAR more about his surroundings in the US than he does of his home country of Mexico. Put yourself in his shoes. You get taken to a place which is out of your control and then YOU have to pay for the consequences? IT really sucks for the guy. Have some sympathy for him.

Indeed - considering the guy himself did nothing wrong - gloating over something that is essentially going to ruin the man's life, or at least mess it up for a good long time is in rather poor taste IMO.