I-751 FORM - One more question - Pls Help.:help:

[Chanchan 0]

Hi everybody,

Since it looks like our package (I-751 ect) will come back to us (we did not use the last revised I751 form, silly yes I know.... I was not happy yesterday when I realised it, and it spoilt my saturday evening..)

I am preparing the New and Revised I-751 so it will be ready to go again ... when I get the file back from TSC..

Should we have the form I-751 NOTORIZED before sending.

I did not it either when I sent the package first time last week.

I just happened to read yesterday a few poles where they mentioned their Forms had been notorized before sending. Is it mandatory...? I am not too familiair with this notorized thing (being French)... and for K1 we used a lawyer - (but he was so expensive and so unkind - awful actually) so we decided to this ourselves.

Thanks for your answers - One more time .............

Well I hope 2nd time everything will be OK, and processed within a year, I read TSC is SLOW and CSC is having some computer problems ........... ! What a bunch !

Chanchan

[Otto 83]

Hi everybody,

Since it looks like our package (I-751 ect) will come back to us (we did not use the last revised I751 form, silly yes I know.... I was not happy yesterday when I realised it, and it spoilt my saturday evening..)

I am preparing the New and Revised I-751 so it will be ready to go again ... when I get the file back from TSC..

Should we have the form I-751 NOTORIZED before sending.

I did not it either when I sent the package first time last week.

I just happened to read yesterday a few poles where they mentioned their Forms had been notorized before sending. Is it mandatory...? I am not too familiair with this notorized thing (being French)... and for K1 we used a lawyer - (but he was so expensive and so unkind - awful actually) so we decided to this ourselves.

Thanks for your answers - One more time .............

Well I hope 2nd time everything will be OK, and processed within a year, I read TSC is SLOW and CSC is having some computer problems ........... ! What a bunch !

Chanchan

Chanchan,

The I-751 does not require notarization, if submitting letters of support from friends/family, these would need to be notarized.

[Yodrak 7]

Karin und Otto,

No, they would not need to be notarized. And notarizing them would not give any increased 'weight' to them.

Yodrak

Chanchan,

The I-751 does not require notarization, if submitting letters of support from friends/family, these would need to be notarized.

[Chanchan 0]

Karin und Otto,

No, they would not need to be notarized. And notarizing them would not give any increased 'weight' to them.

Yodrak

Chanchan,

The I-751 does not require notarization, if submitting letters of support from friends/family, these would need to be notarized.

Thanks, I did not think so, we had the letters of friends notarized and that's it !

At least we did one thing right ............. I cannot imagine we picked an old version of I751 ... I do not even know where my husband found this old version ? brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Chanchan

[R751 0]

IMO, USCIS applications should get notarized if you are filing without an attorney. What if smbdy signs his/her spouse signature on I-751 and file it? Notarized documents prove that all signatures are genuine and documents are signed by real ppl.

Friend/family letters are WEAKEST evidence and carry almost no weightage in USCIS eyes. There is absolutely no need to get them notarized as it won't add any value to letters.

[Chanchan 0]

Hi everybody,

I am a little confused since I got some replies ... and thank you thank you

but

. Some say Yes I-751 have to be notorized

. Some say No need ......

I went back to read the official site and it is not mentioned anywhere we should notarized it.

Oh well ! ...........

someone who has been approved could please let me know if they ever notorized their form I751 ? I do not think it is difficult to have it done (just not familiar with it ?)

Thanks

Chanchan

[Yodrak 7]

R751,

The 'magic words' preceding the signatures take care of your 'what if' concern.

Yodrak

IMO, USCIS applications should get notarized if you are filing without an attorney. What if smbdy signs his/her spouse signature on I-751 and file it? ......

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[Chanchan 0]

R751,

The 'magic words' preceding the signatures take care of your 'what if' concern.

Yodrak

IMO, USCIS applications should get notarized if you are filing without an attorney. What if smbdy signs his/her spouse signature on I-751 and file it? ......

.....

Thank you Yodrak,

You answered my question (one more time)and you absolutely right ........This is what I was thinking first time I signed it ... and then got confused again.

I am anxious to get my package back from TSC and then just send it again with the new revised form .... !

I appreciated the help !

Chancahn

[Otto 83]

IMO, USCIS applications should get notarized if you are filing without an attorney. What if smbdy signs his/her spouse signature on I-751 and file it? Notarized documents prove that all signatures are genuine and documents are signed by real ppl.

Friend/family letters are WEAKEST evidence and carry almost no weightage in USCIS eyes. There is absolutely no need to get them notarized as it won't add any value to letters.

Only if one lives in an alternate universe, on the planet Backwards, is the above true...

[James 2]

No, they would not need to be notarized. And notarizing them would not give any increased 'weight' to them.

Friend/family letters are WEAKEST evidence and carry almost no weightage in USCIS eyes. There is absolutely no need to get them notarized as it won't add any value to letters.

Hold on, there, folks. You're clouding the issue and spreading misinformation in the process.

Where, oh where do the instructions even mention "letters"? The instructions specifically list affidavits, not letters:

Affidavits sworn to or affirmed by at least two people who have known both of you since your conditional residence was granted and have personal knowledge of your marriage and relationship. (Such persons may be required to testify before an immigration officer as to the information contained in the affidavit.) The original affidavit must be submitted and also contain the following information regarding the person making the affidavit:his or her full name and address; date and place of birth;relationship to you or your spouse, if any; and full information and complete details explaining how the person acquired his or her knowledge. Affidavits must be supported by other types of evidence listed above.

An affidavit is a legal document that is always notarized. That is what "sworn" or "affirmed" means -- you are considered to have made the statements contained in the affidavit under oath when they are notarized. And of course affidavits have more weight than just a simple, non-notarized letter, just by dint of the fact that they are sworn to. It makes them competent evidence. If you lie in an affidavit, you have committed perjury.

Although the non-exclusive list in the instructions do not specifically mention "letters," they probably could be deemed to be "[o]ther documents you consider relevant to establish that your marriage was not entered into in order to evade the U.S. immigration laws." However, it would be pointless to have two people write letters when the substance of those letters could -- and should, IMHO -- be put in an affidavit instead. Which, of course, must be notarized.

I posted an example of an affidavit on the first page of the pinned General FAQs for Removing Conditions thread. The only thing missing in the example is reference to the "other types of evidence" the instructions say must support the affidavit. Those would be attached as exhibits to the affidavit.