is there any different between notarization by a lawyer and arization by a notary officer

[Qiu 0]

My fiance apply K1 visa for me, i had a interview, but faild. the VO asked my faince write a stament and it must be certified by a lawyer. what make us confounded is: my fiance have written a statement to VO when my interview, it was certified by a notary public. but now, the VO asked " the statement must be certified by a LAWYER"

My fiance went to a law office, but the lawyer don't do it, he said:

1. notarization by a lawyer is no different than notarization by a notary officer.

2. notarization is not normally performed by lawyers.

Finally my fiance have to find the law office secretary notarized his signature.

Can anyone tell me is there any different betwwen notarization by a lawyer and by a notary public? is notarization a lawyer's job? how to do a notarization by a lawyer and where in Colorado?

We appreciate u!

Best wishes!

[de7wcc 0]

what kind of statement what country and i dont think the word lawyer would be on the stamp I had my I-134 stamped by a lawyer who was a notary look in the phonebook call a couple of different lawyers people here will help you just need a little more infomation

[Yodrak 7]

Qui,

Only a notary public can notarize.

a notary public can be a secretary, a banker, a baker, a sailor, an Indian chief - or even a lawyer.

Yodrak

My fiance apply K1 visa for me, i had a interview, but faild. the VO asked my faince write a stament and it must be certified by a lawyer. what make us confounded is: my fiance have written a statement to VO when my interview, it was certified by a notary public. but now, the VO asked " the statement must be certified by a LAWYER"

My fiance went to a law office, but the lawyer don't do it, he said:

1. notarization by a lawyer is no different than notarization by a notary officer.

2. notarization is not normally performed by lawyers.

Finally my fiance have to find the law office secretary notarized his signature.

Can anyone tell me is there any different betwwen notarization by a lawyer and by a notary public? is notarization a lawyer's job? how to do a notarization by a lawyer and where in Colorado?

We appreciate u!

Best wishes!

Edited August 12, 2007 by Yodrak

[Qiu 0]

Thank u very much for answering! sorry my english is very bad, and i forget to tell that i am a chinese,and my fiance live in the US. he searched for a lawyer who could notarize, but no law office secretary he asked knew such a lawyer. we really don't know why the VO don't accept notarization by a notary officer??? maybe it is just a excuses for denying our application?? i am sad. coz we love each other so much! i have to submit my fiance's statement very soon, i think it will be deny again.

Thank u again! good luck!

[Otto 83]

Thank u very much for answering! sorry my english is very bad, and i forget to tell that i am a chinese,and my fiance live in the US. he searched for a lawyer who could notarize, but no law office secretary he asked knew such a lawyer. we really don't know why the VO don't accept notarization by a notary officer??? maybe it is just a excuses for denying our application?? i am sad. coz we love each other so much! i have to submit my fiance's statement very soon, i think it will be deny again.

Thank u again! good luck!

Qiu,

Please find out exactly what it is the VO is asking for. Word-for-word EXACTLY. What 'statement' are they asking to be notorized? Did they give you anything in writing asking for more information?

[Qiu 0]

Qui,

Only a notary public can notarize.

a notary public can be a secretary, a banker, a baker, a sailor, an Indian chief - or even a lawyer.

Yodrak

Dear Yodrak:

Thank u very much, but how do i know a notary public be a lawyer? where can i find such a person? sooo sorry my questions are so stupid!

Best wishes!

[Yodrak 7]

Qiu,

What is the nature of the statement that is being requested? What must the statement say?

Notarizing a statement means that a notary public verifies the signature on the document. By asking for a lawyer's certification it seems that the consular officer may be looking for verification of the content of the document.

Notarization and lawyer certification are not the same thing.

Yodrak

My fiance apply K1 visa for me, i had a interview, but faild. the VO asked my faince write a stament and it must be certified by a lawyer. what make us confounded is: my fiance have written a statement to VO when my interview, it was certified by a notary public. but now, the VO asked " the statement must be certified by a LAWYER"

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[Kathryn41 3,205]

In some countries - such as Canada - many lawyers are also authorized to be notary publics and notarize documents. I found it interesting to note you used the word 'certify'. I know that in Canada a certified document is different than a notarized document. I was a Commissioner of Oaths in Canada which meant that I was legally authorized by the Province of Ontario to 'certify' documents as true copies of the original, to take oaths from individuals swearing that the contents of the documents were accurate, and to 'certify" I had witnessed the signature of the individual signing the document. I had official stamps worded in such a way that said if they were certified copies, or indicated a sworn statement and these were included on the documents along with my seal. These seem to be included in the functions that a Notary Public does in the US. It could be that the country in which you live has similar differences and the officer you spoke with is confused by the local difference, forgetting that it is not the same in the US. It should make no difference if the US document is signed by a Lawyer or not as long as the person is qualified to be a Notary Public. Most banks and UPS store outlets have Notary Publics on staff. If the document needs to be 'certified' you should get clarification on what exactly that means to the Consulate staff. Good luck on getting it sorted out.

Edited August 12, 2007 by Kathryn41

[Qiu 0]

Qiu,

What is the nature of the statement that is being requested? What must the statement say?

Notarizing a statement means that a notary public verifies the signature on the document. By asking for a lawyer's certification it seems that the consular officer may be looking for verification of the content of the document.

Notarization and lawyer certification are not the same thing.

Yodrak

My fiance apply K1 visa for me, i had a interview, but faild. the VO asked my faince write a stament and it must be certified by a lawyer. what make us confounded is: my fiance have written a statement to VO when my interview, it was certified by a notary public. but now, the VO asked " the statement must be certified by a LAWYER"

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Dear Yodrak:

Yeah,i feel Notarixation and lawyer certification are not the the same thing, but i don't know what is the different bettwen them. and how do i get a lawyer's certification??

Here is the VO's words:" The construction of your letter is a bit off, the grammar and spelling are poor-Did u write the attached letters? your income need to be explained as well, please write a statement explaining these issues,the statement must be certified by a lawyer"

I think u are right, it seems that the consular officer may be looking for verification of the content of the document, but how do verification of the content of the document, it is just a private letter. the most important is: where can i find a lawyer to do it for us?? go to a law office or somewhere???? do u know that? thank u so much!!

[pushbrk 13,096]

My fiance apply K1 visa for me, i had a interview, but faild. the VO asked my faince write a stament and it must be certified by a lawyer. what make us confounded is: my fiance have written a statement to VO when my interview, it was certified by a notary public. but now, the VO asked " the statement must be certified by a LAWYER"

My fiance went to a law office, but the lawyer don't do it, he said:

1. notarization by a lawyer is no different than notarization by a notary officer.

2. notarization is not normally performed by lawyers.

Finally my fiance have to find the law office secretary notarized his signature.

Can anyone tell me is there any different betwwen notarization by a lawyer and by a notary public? is notarization a lawyer's job? how to do a notarization by a lawyer and where in Colorado?

We appreciate u!

Best wishes!

Please provide the exact wording from any paper the VO gave you and describe the document you already provided. That will help us understand what is required. The VO knows a notary only witnesses signatures or certifies something is a true copy. That's very different from what goes on at local Notarial offices (Gong Zheng Chu) in China.

[Credzba 0]

Thank u very much for answering! sorry my english is very bad, and i forget to tell that i am a chinese,and my fiance live in the US. he searched for a lawyer who could notarize, but no law office secretary he asked knew such a lawyer. we really don't know why the VO don't accept notarization by a notary officer??? maybe it is just a excuses for denying our application?? i am sad. coz we love each other so much! i have to submit my fiance's statement very soon, i think it will be deny again.

Thank u again! good luck!

Qiu there is another site, www.candleforlove.com where everyone is dealing with chinese immigration issues.

Also, there is a chinese site usa.bbs.net written in chinese that is all people dealing with chinese immigration issues.

I am married to a chinese woman, and try to keep up with the issues, but I have never heard of this request being made before. There are a number of things that you can do though, one is there is a number your fiancee can call (costs money) to speak with a guanzhou consulate and find out exactly what they want.

This number should be listed on your notice along with details of what you need to do.

Perhaps notarization by the state department would help. I know when I had to produce a single statement for marriage in China, I needed a normal notary, and then notorization by my secretary of state office in my state government.

I believe there is also a federal notary service, but really you need to find out what the vo really wants.

[Qiu 0]

Thank u very much for answering! sorry my english is very bad, and i forget to tell that i am a chinese,and my fiance live in the US. he searched for a lawyer who could notarize, but no law office secretary he asked knew such a lawyer. we really don't know why the VO don't accept notarization by a notary officer??? maybe it is just a excuses for denying our application?? i am sad. coz we love each other so much! i have to submit my fiance's statement very soon, i think it will be deny again.

Thank u again! good luck!

Qiu there is another site, www.candleforlove.com where everyone is dealing with chinese immigration issues.

Also, there is a chinese site usa.bbs.net written in chinese that is all people dealing with chinese immigration issues.

I am married to a chinese woman, and try to keep up with the issues, but I have never heard of this request being made before. There are a number of things that you can do though, one is there is a number your fiancee can call (costs money) to speak with a guanzhou consulate and find out exactly what they want.

This number should be listed on your notice along with details of what you need to do.

Perhaps notarization by the state department would help. I know when I had to produce a single statement for marriage in China, I needed a normal notary, and then notorization by my secretary of state office in my state government.

I believe there is also a federal notary service, but really you need to find out what the vo really wants.

Thank u sooo much!! yes, i agree with u, we do really need to find out what the vo really wants! do u think they will tell my fiance what can we do if he call a guangzhou consulte? good luck with u and your chinese wife!

[Yodrak 7]

Qiu,

Yes, I think we've got it now. The letter of explanation is not clear to the consular officer. He wants the letter re-written to be more clear, and he wants an attorney to review the letter, along with the facts and documents that it explains, and certify that the letter is an accurate representation of the facts.

Make an appointment with an immigration attorney to have a consultation on this issue.

Yodrak

Dear Yodrak:

Yeah,i feel Notarixation and lawyer certification are not the the same thing, but i don't know what is the different bettwen them. and how do i get a lawyer's certification??

Here is the VO's words:" The construction of your letter is a bit off, the grammar and spelling are poor-Did u write the attached letters? your income need to be explained as well, please write a statement explaining these issues,the statement must be certified by a lawyer"

I think u are right, it seems that the consular officer may be looking for verification of the content of the document, but how do verification of the content of the document, it is just a private letter. the most important is: where can i find a lawyer to do it for us?? go to a law office or somewhere???? do u know that? thank u so much!!

[pushbrk 13,096]

Thank u very much for answering! sorry my english is very bad, and i forget to tell that i am a chinese,and my fiance live in the US. he searched for a lawyer who could notarize, but no law office secretary he asked knew such a lawyer. we really don't know why the VO don't accept notarization by a notary officer??? maybe it is just a excuses for denying our application?? i am sad. coz we love each other so much! i have to submit my fiance's statement very soon, i think it will be deny again.

Thank u again! good luck!

Qiu there is another site, www.candleforlove.com where everyone is dealing with chinese immigration issues.

Also, there is a chinese site usa.bbs.net written in chinese that is all people dealing with chinese immigration issues.

I am married to a chinese woman, and try to keep up with the issues, but I have never heard of this request being made before. There are a number of things that you can do though, one is there is a number your fiancee can call (costs money) to speak with a guanzhou consulate and find out exactly what they want.

This number should be listed on your notice along with details of what you need to do.

Perhaps notarization by the state department would help. I know when I had to produce a single statement for marriage in China, I needed a normal notary, and then notorization by my secretary of state office in my state government.

I believe there is also a federal notary service, but really you need to find out what the vo really wants.

Thank u sooo much!! yes, i agree with u, we do really need to find out what the vo really wants! do u think they will tell my fiance what can we do if he call a guangzhou consulte? good luck with u and your chinese wife!

You could try but I wouldn't count on getting any information on the phone. You don't really call the Consulate. You reach a service company in Shanghai that doesn't really know much. If you don't have the request in writing, then the best thing is to ask for clarification by email. At least the email will be answered by somebody at the Consulate. Did they not give you a blue paper spelling out the request?