Recognition of Divorce - Questions?

[DELTAFOXTROT 74]

Here is my understanding of divorced process, if married to a pinay  and being US Citizen and non muslim marriage:  If US Citizen petitions for divorce then pinay could get recognition of divorce in Philippines, If the pinay files for divorce then the marriage can never be divorced only annulled.

 

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How big of a pain is it for a pinay to get a recognition of divorce done in the Philippines court system?  Is it like an annullement where it takes a long time and lots of pesos?  Does anyone know the timeline and estimated peso amount for a "Recognition of Divorce" and I assume a Philippine lawyer is involved?

Edited January 11 by DELTAFOXTROT

[top_secret 2,493]

1 hour ago, DELTAFOXTROT said:

Here is my understanding of divorced process, if married to a pinay  and being US Citizen and non muslim marriage:  If US Citizen petitions for divorce then pinay could get recognition of divorce in Philippines, If the pinay files for divorce then the marriage can never be divorced only annulled.

 

Part 2:

 

How big of a pain is it for a pinay to get a recognition of divorce done in the Philippines court system?  Is it like an annullement where it takes a long time and lots of pesos?  Does anyone know the timeline and estimated peso amount for a "Recognition of Divorce" and I assume a Philippine lawyer is involved?

 

 

Yes it takes a lawyer and a court case.  The relative handful of cases I heard of successfully getting recognized seemed to be about a 2 year time frame and maybe P100k plus.  Like all things court related in the Philippines, the cost and timeframe may have an inverse relationship and individual results may vary and be negotiable.  In terms of US immigration it is not really important since the US does not require Philippine recognition of a divorce that is otherwise legal in the eyes of the US.  Recognition of a foreign divorce is mainly only important for dealings with the Philippine government.

[DELTAFOXTROT 74]

2 minutes ago, top_secret said:

 

 

Yes it takes a lawyer and a court case.  The relative handful of cases I heard of successfully getting recognized seemed to be about a 2 year time frame and maybe P100k plus.  Like all things court related in the Philippines, the cost and timeframe may have an inverse relationship and individual results may vary and be negotiable.  In terms of US immigration it is not really important since the US does not require Philippine recognition of a divorce that is otherwise legal in the eyes of the US.  Recognition of a foreign divorce is mainly only important for dealings with the Philippine government.

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I was concerned about process inside Philippines only, and the female trying to date again, and the American Citizen as well dating. I guess either could have a case put against them for Adultery from the other if they tried to date while inside the Philippines.

[J.M. 252]

Was the marriage reported and recorded in the Philippines?

[DELTAFOXTROT 74]

13 minutes ago, J.M. said:

Was the marriage reported and recorded in the Philippines?

 

Yes, Marriage incurred in Philippines.  The American  has been living in Philippines for a few years on SRRV visa I believe.

 

I know that loop hole, That is why I advise no one to every marry inside the Philippines.

Edited January 11 by DELTAFOXTROT

[hunny&me 274]

I was PH citizen, married a PH citizen in PH. (year1)

Divorced in US before US citizenship. (year4)

Gained US citizenship. (year11)

Married a PH citizen.  (year20)

Filed ROM. (year20)

Petitioned the PH citizen. (year21)

Gained Dual PH with 2nd marriage's last name. (year23)

Honestly, I do not know my status in PH if ever we retire there or buy property. 😇😁 I guess we retire here and just visit PH 🤣

 

 

[top_secret 2,493]

7 hours ago, hunny&me said:

Gained Dual PH with 2nd marriage's last name. (year23)

Honestly, I do not know my status in PH if ever we retire there or buy property. 😇😁 I guess we retire here and just visit PH 🤣

 

 

More than likely a couple of decades and some less than perfect record keeping works to your favor.😁  You are probably good.  But it might be worth ordering your Advisory on Marriages just out of curiosity to see what kind of tabs PSA has kept on you.

[DELTAFOXTROT 74]

22 hours ago, hunny&me said:

I was PH citizen, married a PH citizen in PH. (year1)

Divorced in US before US citizenship. (year4)

Gained US citizenship. (year11)

Married a PH citizen.  (year20)

Filed ROM. (year20)

Petitioned the PH citizen. (year21)

Gained Dual PH with 2nd marriage's last name. (year23)

Honestly, I do not know my status in PH if ever we retire there or buy property. 😇😁 I guess we retire here and just visit PH 🤣

 

 

Former Philippines can still own land, just limited until you get Dual.

 

Up to 1 hectare which is fairly large for a house, that would cost about close to 3 million peso just to put a nice hollow block wall like 7 feet high and huge electric gate.  That would be you would need in Philippines.

 

Key points about former Filipino citizens and property ownership:

• Restrictions on land size: Former natural-born Filipinos can own a maximum of 1,000 square meters of urban land for residential use or 1 hectare of rural land. 
   
• Business land ownership: For business purposes, they can own up to 5,000 square meters of urban land or 3 hectares of rural land. 
   
• Inheritance rights: Former citizens can still inherit property in the Philippines. 
   
• Constitutional basis: These limitations are based on the 1987 Philippine Constitution.