Do I need a full new medical exam after entering the US or just vaccine record part

[Zen77 0]

I entered the US on k1 visa and already took a physical medical exam with bloodwork for my visa abroad 

and I read on the instructions for the medical form that K1 visa holders only need to fill the part of vaccine record if they already submitted an exam in the past year 

I already told that to my doctor and he's not believing me and keeps asking me who told you that 

so I'm I correct , I mean the instructions seem clear enough or am I missing something 

Just wanted to make sure 

thank you

 

[OldUser 6,920]

Majority of civil surgeons in the US (I think that's what you mean by doctor) will want you to complete entire medical again. You cannot tell them otherwise, they're not going to sign off other doctor's paperwork and risk their license.

 

Some may do only vaccination part as you want, but it's very rare.

 

Here is where to find civil surgeons:

https://www.uscis.gov/tools/find-a-civil-surgeon

 

 

 

 

 

Edited Saturday at 08:02 PM by OldUser

[Zen77 0]

2 hours ago, OldUser said:

Majority of civil surgeons in the US (I think that's what you mean by doctor) will want you to complete entire medical again. You cannot tell them otherwise, they're not going to sign off other doctor's paperwork and risk their license.

 

Some may do only vaccination part as you want, but it's very rare.

 

Here is where to find civil surgeons:

https://www.uscis.gov/tools/find-a-civil-surgeon

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you for answering , I find that weird because I just can't see how are they signing off another doctor's paperwork, they're only signing off the form which only contains the vaccine record after showing them proof of taking it or getting directly from them and they're not signing off anything else, the physical exam is already signed off and sent to uscis by the first doctor 

[OldUser 6,920]

22 minutes ago, Zen77 said:

Thank you for answering , I find that weird because I just can't see how are they signing off another doctor's paperwork, they're only signing off the form which only contains the vaccine record after showing them proof of taking it or getting directly from them and they're not signing off anything else, the physical exam is already signed off and sent to uscis by the first doctor 

Why don't you ask a civil surgeon why they don't do it and post their answer here?

 

I can see why they don't want to do forms with missing parts which can be filled with anything later... So they want to do the form as a whole. If there were different forms for vaccinations and medical exam, I think they'd be more ready to sign only the vaccination part.

 

This question gets asked periodically on VJ. I'm just saying what I observed. Maybe signing off only vaccinations doesn't make financial sense to medical professionals. If the entire exam is $500, they won't be charging a small amount for smaller job, it's not worth their time.

Edited Saturday at 10:40 PM by OldUser

[W199 342]

2 hours ago, Zen77 said:

I entered the US on k1 visa and already took a physical medical exam with bloodwork for my visa abroad 

and I read on the instructions for the medical form that K1 visa holders only need to fill the part of vaccine record if they already submitted an exam in the past year 

I already told that to my doctor and he's not believing me and keeps asking me who told you that 

so I'm I correct , I mean the instructions seem clear enough or am I missing something 

Just wanted to make sure 

thank you

 

Usually when you have your medical abroad, they give you all the vaccinations and give you a vaccination report to submit when you apply for your adjustment of status after you enter the USA. There is no need to see a civil surgeon after you arrive unless you don't have that form.  Are you saying you didn't get your vaccinations signed off at your medical abroad? Why not? Regardless, all you need is to submit the vaccination form with your adjustment of status. 

[OldUser 6,920]

3 minutes ago, W199 said:

 Regardless, all you need is to submit the vaccination form with your adjustment of status. 

By that you mean I-693 right? A civil surgeon needs to administer missing required vaccines and sign it off

[W199 342]

5 minutes ago, OldUser said:

By that you mean I-693 right? A civil surgeon needs to administer missing required vaccines and sign it off

No, I mean the DS-3025. 

 

You only need form I-693 if the form DS-3025 from the medical exam abroad is marked as "incomplete" or if your medical exam abroad was more than 1 year old.  If either of these are the case, then yes you will need to see a civil surgeon and get a sealed I-693 with a medical exam and/or completed vaccination report as applicable. 

Edited Saturday at 10:53 PM by W199

[OldUser 6,920]

11 minutes ago, W199 said:

No, I mean the DS-3025. 

 

You only need form I-693 if the form DD-3025 from the medical exam abroad is marked as "incomplete" 

That's my impression based on OP's messages so far. E.g. they didn't get vaccinations required when doing DS-3025

11 minutes ago, W199 said:

you will need to see a civil surgeon and get a sealed I-693 with a medical exam and/or completed vaccination report as applicable. 

And/or is the focal point of this thread as far as I understand. Most civil surgeons don't honor or. They either do whole medical with vaccinations or turn people away.

Edited Saturday at 11:03 PM by OldUser

[Edward and Jaycel 259]

@Zen77 Do you have a DS-3025 Vaccination Worksheet form from your overseas medical exam that was completed and signed by the physician and on page 2 is it check marked "K Visa applicant voluntarily completed vaccination requirements"?

[Zen77 0]

58 minutes ago, Edward and Jaycel said:

@Zen77 Do you have a DS-3025 Vaccination Worksheet form from your overseas medical exam that was completed and signed by the physician and on page 2 is it check marked "K Visa applicant voluntarily completed vaccination requirements"?

Yes I do have that but it only has Td MMR Hep b and Covid, the rest for the most part it says not age appropriate except for varicella which was not available in country and flu which was out of season, can i just submit that or add the missing ones , I'm really confused 

 

1 hour ago, W199 said:

No, I mean the DS-3025. 

 

You only need form I-693 if the form DS-3025 from the medical exam abroad is marked as "incomplete" or if your medical exam abroad was more than 1 year old.  If either of these are the case, then yes you will need to see a civil surgeon and get a sealed I-693 with a medical exam and/or completed vaccination report as applicable. 

would it be considered incomplete if it was that way, only Td MMR Hep B and covid are taken, the rest are not age appropriate except for varicella(not available in country) and flu(out of season) 

 

what would be the most appropriate way to submit this one 

thank you

[Edward and Jaycel 259]

5 minutes ago, Zen77 said:

Yes I do have that but it only has Td MMR Hep b and Covid, the rest for the most part it says not age appropriate except for varicella which was not available in country and flu which was out of season, can i just submit that or add the missing ones , I'm really confused 

 

 

If these "missing" vaccinations have letters indicated in the "Blanket Waiver" column then your vaccines are considered "Complete" for USCIS's purposes. As long as the form is signed and that checkbox I talked about earlier is checked then you should be able to just send a copy of both pages of the DS-3025 along with your I-485 and should be exempt from the I-693 requirement. Keep in mind that accepting your DS-3025 and overseas medical is up to the discretion of the adjudicating officer, but the copy of the DS-3025 should be sufficient for filing the I-485

[Zen77 0]

14 minutes ago, Edward and Jaycel said:

 

If these "missing" vaccinations have letters indicated in the "Blanket Waiver" column then your vaccines are considered "Complete" for USCIS's purposes. As long as the form is signed and that checkbox I talked about earlier is checked then you should be able to just send a copy of both pages of the DS-3025 along with your I-485 and should be exempt from the I-693 requirement. Keep in mind that accepting your DS-3025 and overseas medical is up to the discretion of the adjudicating officer, but the copy of the DS-3025 should be sufficient for filing the I-485

Thank you very much for answering , that makes me feel better about this whole process it was already too many things to do now this is one less thing to worry about

 

I have one more question if I had the original DS-3025 from my visa medical exam should I assume they already sent a copy of it to the embassy for the visa and it was included in that package you give to the officer at the airport and then sent to USCIS?

So do they already have a copy? and I will attach a copy anyway but I'm just trying to understand more. Thank you.

[Edward and Jaycel 259]

Just now, Zen77 said:

Thank you very much for answering , that makes me feel better about this whole process it was already too many things to do now this is one less thing to worry about

 

I have one more question if I had the original DS-3025 from my visa medical exam should I assume they already sent a copy of it to the embassy for the visa and it was included in that package you give to the officer at the airport and then sent to USCIS?

So do they already have a copy? and I will attach a copy anyway but I'm just trying to understand more. Thank you.

 

Yes, a copy would have been in your sealed yellow packet along with your medical exam report from the panel physician. When you go through the PoE and CBP takes this packet, they then send it to USCIS to add to your A-File. The copy of the DS-3025 that you file with your I-485 is a reminder for the adjudicating officer to look in your A-File for your medical report. Now that they changed the rules on Dec. 2nd about including the I-693 with your I-485 or it will get rejected? Including this copy of your DS-3025 also serves to show proof that you are exempt from the I-693 requirement so that they will not reject your AOS.

[Edward and Jaycel 259]

@Zen77 If you want to see screen grabs of the cover letters we sent with Jaycel's AOS packet (with our personal info changed to generic stuff  ), I included them on the first page of this thread:

 

 

[JeanneAdil 6,570]

December 2,  2024  changed things

 

https://www.uscis.gov/newsroom/alerts/uscis-now-requires-report-of-immigration-medical-examination-and-vaccination-record-to-be-submitted#:~:text=Applicants for adjustment of status,under the health-related grounds.

 

Release Date 

12/02/2024

We now require certain applicants filing Form I-485, Application to Register Permanent Residence or Adjust Status, to submit Form I-693, Report of Immigration Medical Examination and Vaccination Record, with their Form I-485 or the Form I-485 may otherwise be rejected.

Applicants for adjustment of status generally must complete an immigration medical examination and all required vaccinations and submit a properly completed Form I-693 signed by a civil surgeon to show they are free from health conditions that would render them inadmissible under the health-related grounds.

 

We have revised the Form I-485 instructions to make filing the two forms together a requirement.

 

I know of one person who turned medical in October 2024 at POE and AOS was sent back for a whole I 693 to be done in the states by civil surgeon and their vaccination record was complete also.

 

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