Mandamus Lawsuits: Effective for Scheduling Consulate Interviews?

[General_123 0]

8 minutes ago, Ontarkie said:

Ever since  Judge ruled that 15 months was not a long time to be in AP. WOM have been getting tossed out like candy. They haven't been helping any more, except for those ppl who were already past that time.  I doubt trying to get a WOM to work on NVC is going to help at all. 

I get your point about the Turner v. Blinken case, but that ruling was specific to administrative processing (AP). It didn’t address delays in scheduling interviews, which is a separate issue. The consulate controls interview availability, not NVC, and if they’re not fulfilling their obligation to process cases within a reasonable time, that could still justify a WOM. Just because 15 months in AP was ruled ‘reasonable’ doesn’t mean indefinite delays for an interview would hold up in court. It’s not the same scenario.

[Boiler 45,673]

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If the question is can you file a WoM then the answer is yes.

If the question is can you file a WoM then the answer is yes.

If the question is can you file a WoM then the answer is yes.

If the question is can you file a WoM then the answer is yes.

If the question is can you file a WoM then the answer is yes.

If the question is can you file a WoM then the answer is yes.

[General_123 0]

4 minutes ago, Boiler said:

If the question is can you file a WoM then the answer is yes.

If the question is can you file a WoM then the answer is yes.

If the question is can you file a WoM then the answer is yes.

If the question is can you file a WoM then the answer is yes.

If the question is can you file a WoM then the answer is yes.

If the question is can you file a WoM then the answer is yes.

If the question is can you file a WoM then the answer is yes.

If the question is can you file a WoM then the answer is yes.

 Obviously, a WoM can be filed—that’s not rocket science. The issue is whether it’s actually worth doing in these circumstances.
 

If you don’t have anything beyond repeating the obvious, why bother? The idea was to foster a discussion on potential previous experiences. 

Edited yesterday at 04:12 AM by Pfons0014

[Boiler 45,673]

Well it’s only money as another poster has pointed out.

[OldUser 6,891]

3 hours ago, Pfons0014 said:

I get that you think it’s all on NVC, but the consulate, not NVC, controls the number of interviews they schedule each month. Calling the process ‘transparent’ doesn’t make sense when there’s no clear communication about how or when appointments are allocated. It’s not just about waiting—it’s about a system that doesn’t provide any accountability.

Beggers are not choosers... Immigration is a privilege, not a right. We can complain as much as we want, but the reason this thread's participants recommend holding off WoM is because it has a high chance of being dismissed.

[appleblossom 2,694]

15 hours ago, Pfons0014 said:

I get that you think it’s all on NVC, but the consulate, not NVC, controls the number of interviews they schedule each month. 

 

Every consulate will do the maximum they can, but what they can't control is the number of interviews required. CJ has a far higher demand on its time than other consulates, so there is a backlog. For instance, CJ issued over 300,000 visas in 2023 FY, Paris only issued 65,000 ish, but even with doing so many more interviews than most other consulates CJ has a backlog as many more are wanting interviews, hence the longer wait there. 

 

15 hours ago, Pfons0014 said:

Calling the process ‘transparent’ doesn’t make sense when there’s no clear communication about how or when appointments are allocated. 

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/visa-information-resources/visas-news-archive/immigrant-visa-prioritization.html

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/PDF-other/NVC_role_in_IVs_for_applicants_November_2016.pdf

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/Immigrant-Statistics/Immigrant Visa Control System_operation of.pdf

 

I get that it's frustrating, but this is a country specific delay because of the backlog at CJ, caused because they have a far bigger caseload than other consulates. And as it fluctuates month by month, there's no way for for them to accurate predict when you may get your interview, but you can get an idea from other cases at least. 

 

Good luck.

 

 

[JeanneAdil 6,562]

22 hours ago, Pfons0014 said:

@JeanneAdil thanks for your response. Regarding "force a decision on immigration  and it could be denial/  seen that happen from posts on here"..... what do you mean by that? Is that for WoM for folks placed in AP?

if u force an interview before immigration officer has done their work ,  it can result in denial as approval (without the proper steps ) is hard for CO or US officer to take the responsibility on to approve it'

 

Co's have to follow immigration rules and laws 

[JeanneAdil 6,562]

18 hours ago, Pfons0014 said:

 

I’m not saying I trust the process. But it’s easy for you to dismiss the frustration when you’re not the one currently stuck in this broken system. Stop pretending like waiting around for who knows how long is just ‘how it works’—it’s a mess, and you’re ignoring that reality.

OMG   my wait was from 2009 till 2015 and i know another who had a 7 year wait on  top of "loves to teach"  is married now 9 years and still waiting

 

Prayers go out to u as trump is so against Mexico ,  he could add it to his list of blocked states 

[General_123 0]

1 hour ago, JeanneAdil said:

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1 hour ago, JeanneAdil said:

if u force an interview before immigration officer has done their work ,  it can result in denial as approval (without the proper steps ) is hard for CO or US officer to take the responsibility on to approve it'

 

Co's have to follow immigration rules and laws 

u force an interview before immigration officer has done their work ,  it can result in denial as approval (without the proper steps ) is hard for CO or US officer to take the responsibility on to approve it'

 

Co's have to follow immigration rules and laws 

Wow, sounds like you’ve personally handled mandamus lawsuits before and have firsthand experience of how consular officers react under those circumstances. Impressive expertise—care to elaborate on how forcing an interview directly results in a denial?

[General_123 0]

1 hour ago, JeanneAdil said:

OMG   my wait was from 2009 till 2015 and i know another who had a 7 year wait on  top of "loves to teach"  is married now 9 years and still waiting

 

Prayers go out to u as trump is so against Mexico ,  he could add it to his list of blocked states 

Wow, sounds like you’re actually proud of having to wait that long. You deserve an applause 👏🏼

And as for your comment about Mexico being banned—maybe stick to facts instead of fear-mongering? Not exactly helpful.

[SyrianDyrian 0]

18 minutes ago, Pfons0014 said:

Wow, sounds like you’re actually proud of having to wait that long. You deserve an applause 👏🏼

And as for your comment about Mexico being banned—maybe stick to facts instead of fear-mongering? Not exactly helpful.

They must be from the Middle East hence the long wait. 

[General_123 0]

5 minutes ago, SyrianDyrian said:

They must be from the Middle East hence the long wait. 

profile checks out.........

[JeanneAdil 6,562]

3 hours ago, General_123 said:

Wow, sounds like you’ve personally handled mandamus lawsuits before and have firsthand experience of how consular officers react under those circumstances. Impressive expertise—care to elaborate on how forcing an interview directly results in a denial?

no  !  search from the search bar  on the main page

been reading on these since 2008 when i thought about doing a K1

[TBoneTX 45,543]

This thread is going nowhere, and new members are dismissing the institutional knowledge of experienced members.  The OP has advice adequate to enable a decision.  Therefore, this thread is closed to further comment.  Do not restart this topic.