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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Nigeria
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In light of a topic started on the forum (Moving Here and Your New Life in America), I was looking for divorce rates among US citizens and their immigrant spouses. Anyway I came across this and thought some of you may be interested. Paragraph seven is particularly scarry to me.

http://www.swarayassociates.com/divorce.htm

Divorce rates amongst african immigrants

By Amadu Edward Swaray

African immigrants are all Africans from the African continent who come to the United States to reside permanently. Many of them eventually become US citizens. Some come as a family i.e. with their wives and children. Some come as single individuals. Many of these eventually meet women in the United States and get married to them. They may deliberately marry someone from their home countries. Many of those who do so told me that the cultural and regional similarities make the relationship easier. Many of them also marry women of other races and cultures in the United States.

Compared to their countries of origin, divorce among African families in the United States is very high. The average span of an African married couple in the United States is, unfortunately, only about seven years.

Why is the divorce rate so high? One factor is the impact of the new American culture. Africans in America stumble on the American culture of rights, and, in many cases, do not know how to handle it. In Africa, women are inferior to men, and men have more rights than women. In a typical family, women play domestic roles, while the men are the bread winners. Women do household chores, raise the kids and serve the husband. In America, the women find that they have rights just like, if not, more than men. They hold important non-domestic jobs and are financially strong just like the men. They have equal say on issues in the home, and can financially contribute. They also find that household chores and raising kids should be shared with the men.

The men resent some of these rights, and deem it unacceptable. They see them as challenges to their masculinity. In most cases, their reactions lead to frictions, which in turn, cause marital problems, and many of the marital problems lead to divorce.

Domestic abuse incidents are very high in African families. In Africa, it is normal for a husband to physically or verbally abuse his wife when the wife does something wrong. Wrong things may include extra-marital activity, not treating the kids very well, breaking something in the house, refusing to have intercourse or saying something disrespectful to the husband. The beating is an exercise of the man’s masculinity and punishment of the woman for the wrongful act. The beating does not subject the man to any punishment. There are rare cases, such as if the beating results in murder, where the man is prosecuted.

In the United States, domestic abuse is, fortunately, a crime that goes with serious consequences. If a man is charged with domestic abuse or assault of his wife, and is found guilty, he is subjected to a serious punishment. If the man is an immigrant, who has not become a citizen, he is also subject to deportation. Sometimes African wives take advantage of the consequences, and frequently lie to the police that their husbands have beaten them. There are instances when a wife that is offended by a dispute between herself and her husband, calls the police to lie that her husband has beaten her to cause the police to arrest the husband. Many marriages do not survive instances of domestic abuse.

The highest number of divorces occur in African cross-culture and or racial marriages i.e. an African married to a Caucasian or Mexican or Asian or African American etc. Some of the divorces are simply rooted in the desire of a party to get an immigration “Green Card”, and deserting the marriage once the desire is achieved. Many are rooted in deep different cultural and racial problems. The spouses usually accept their racial differences. They have to look beyond it to get married. Their cultural problems are, however, tougher to overcome. They initially suppress their cultural identities and feelings during courtship. But the differences get out of control in the marriage. The differences come across in daily communication, likes and dislikes, relationships with friends, and most especially their extended family members.

The African initially absorbs everything but eventually reacts against cultural traits that he dislikes. Both at some point do not understand that their different cultural experiences are subverting their relationship, and before they know, the marriage is mired in an acute difficulty. Frictions between the spouses and the African and his or her American spouses’ extended family members are rife, the solution to which becomes divorce.

When divorce occurs, the American domestic relations law governs. Issues of custody, child support, visitation (if there are children), property division (if there is property) and liability allocation (if any) are decided. The divorce leaves behind deep relationship cleavages and sometimes fatal animosities. For a while, the African’s quest for happiness, a strong component of his American dream is lost.

The author of this article is an attorney who does general practice that includes family, immigration and criminal law. No portion should be deemed as legal advice. If you need legal advice on issues raised in the article, see a family, criminal or immigration attorney. If you need advice or legal assistance from the author, call his office at 763-549-0670, or write to him at the Law Offices of Swaray & Associates, Golden Valley Corporate Center, 1710 Douglas Drive, Suite 107, Golden Valley, MN 55422.

K3

10-xx-04 I129 sent

05-xx-05 NOA1 from USCIS - Aproved - Abandoned for Cr1

CR1

11-15-04 I-130 sent

12-10-04 NOA 1 fee changed had to resend info with new fee

12-11-04 Resend case with new fee

02-14-05 NOA 2 I-130 Case aproved and sent to NVC

02-25-05 NVC received case

03-21-05 Received I-864 fee bill

03-22-05 Sent $70 I-864 payment to

04-16-05 Received IV fee bill

04-17-05 Sent $ 380 IV payment to NVC

05-02-05 Received I-864 packet from NVC

05-02-05 Sent I-864 packet to NVC

05-11-05 NVC received IV payment

05-16-05 NVC sent third packet

05-25-05 Received DS-230 and third packet instructions

06-06-05 NVCReceived DS-230 per fed ex confirmation

06-07-05 NVC Enters DS-230 information in system

waiting waiting waiting

06-20-05 Case Completed!!!!!!!yipee.

waiting for interview date.............

7-26-05 Baby born!!!! yaya

8-15-05 Interview set for 9-29-05

9-29-05 Interview suck they want more proof

10-20-05 second interview

10-24-05 yaya haleloujhya finally got it.

10-28-05 going to meet husband in New York. yayayaya

10-30-05 Home!!!!

Lifting Conditions

7-28-07 Mailed form I751 and supporting documents. $275 (Old fee!!!!!Yipee!!!)

8-17-07 Check cleared my account.

8-20-07 Touched

8-30-07 Received Biometric apointment letter.

9-11-07 Biometrics Apointment

9-22-07 Received letter of approval

9-24-07 Received GC Whoo hoo done for 10 years!!!

09-20-09 Sent N-400 for Citizenship

11-01-09 Bio

01-11-10 Passed Interview

01-16-10 Received notice for swearing in ceremony

02-03-10 Swearing in ceremony

Posted

Well, I think that could be true. But every single case is different and unique. I remember when I was dating my husband. Some people tried to sit me down and dissuade me from dating a Nigerian. One woman was telling me how Aficans treat their wives like slaves. But the other said--that in Nigeria--women were held in high esteem. But still I shouldn't date this Nigerian as he was just after a ticket to America. I'm so HAPPy I never istened to their advice. And I do feel like my husband holds me in high esteem--so that part has been true for me.

As far as staying at home and raising children. my husband fully expects me to have a good paying job and fully supports me in continuing my education. He really doesn't want a stay at home wife which at times seems kind of nice to me! But I'd rather have someone support me to be all I can be--then someone who forces me to stay at home.

February 17, 2005--mailed in I 129F to CSC!

February 24, 2005--1st NOA

March 15, 2005--2nd NOA

April 11, 2005--Fiance receives Packet 3

May 19, 2005 Fax Checklist(Nigeria police report finally arrives)

June 6, 2005-- Interview Date!!!!Visa approved!!

June 18, 2005--Fiancee arrives in Hawaii!

August 14, 2005--wedding in Oregon

September 12, 2005--sent in AOS

September 20, 2005--1st NOA AOS

September 23, 2005--Walk-in biometrics completed

October 1, 2005--fingerprints received/processing resumed

November 26, 2005--EAD card received in mail

June 7, 2006--contact senators about AOS

June 28, 2006--senator says interview date is for August 14!!

August 14, 2006--AOS interview and 1 year wedding anniversary

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Nigeria
Timeline
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Well, I think that could be true. But every single case is different and unique. I remember when I was dating my husband. Some people tried to sit me down and dissuade me from dating a Nigerian. One woman was telling me how Aficans treat their wives like slaves. But the other said--that in Nigeria--women were held in high esteem. But still I shouldn't date this Nigerian as he was just after a ticket to America. I'm so HAPPy I never istened to their advice. And I do feel like my husband holds me in high esteem--so that part has been true for me.

As far as staying at home and raising children. my husband fully expects me to have a good paying job and fully supports me in continuing my education. He really doesn't want a stay at home wife which at times seems kind of nice to me! But I'd rather have someone support me to be all I can be--then someone who forces me to stay at home.

The part of the article that worries me most is the interpretations of the two different cultures. All along I have known of the differences, but the author makes them sound unresolvable. It is a little discouraging. Sometimes I feel like we have 3 strikes against us already....cross cultural, interracial, visa process, racism, etc.

K3

10-xx-04 I129 sent

05-xx-05 NOA1 from USCIS - Aproved - Abandoned for Cr1

CR1

11-15-04 I-130 sent

12-10-04 NOA 1 fee changed had to resend info with new fee

12-11-04 Resend case with new fee

02-14-05 NOA 2 I-130 Case aproved and sent to NVC

02-25-05 NVC received case

03-21-05 Received I-864 fee bill

03-22-05 Sent $70 I-864 payment to

04-16-05 Received IV fee bill

04-17-05 Sent $ 380 IV payment to NVC

05-02-05 Received I-864 packet from NVC

05-02-05 Sent I-864 packet to NVC

05-11-05 NVC received IV payment

05-16-05 NVC sent third packet

05-25-05 Received DS-230 and third packet instructions

06-06-05 NVCReceived DS-230 per fed ex confirmation

06-07-05 NVC Enters DS-230 information in system

waiting waiting waiting

06-20-05 Case Completed!!!!!!!yipee.

waiting for interview date.............

7-26-05 Baby born!!!! yaya

8-15-05 Interview set for 9-29-05

9-29-05 Interview suck they want more proof

10-20-05 second interview

10-24-05 yaya haleloujhya finally got it.

10-28-05 going to meet husband in New York. yayayaya

10-30-05 Home!!!!

Lifting Conditions

7-28-07 Mailed form I751 and supporting documents. $275 (Old fee!!!!!Yipee!!!)

8-17-07 Check cleared my account.

8-20-07 Touched

8-30-07 Received Biometric apointment letter.

9-11-07 Biometrics Apointment

9-22-07 Received letter of approval

9-24-07 Received GC Whoo hoo done for 10 years!!!

09-20-09 Sent N-400 for Citizenship

11-01-09 Bio

01-11-10 Passed Interview

01-16-10 Received notice for swearing in ceremony

02-03-10 Swearing in ceremony

Posted

Well, I think that could be true. But every single case is different and unique. I remember when I was dating my husband. Some people tried to sit me down and dissuade me from dating a Nigerian. One woman was telling me how Aficans treat their wives like slaves. But the other said--that in Nigeria--women were held in high esteem. But still I shouldn't date this Nigerian as he was just after a ticket to America. I'm so HAPPy I never istened to their advice. And I do feel like my husband holds me in high esteem--so that part has been true for me.

As far as staying at home and raising children. my husband fully expects me to have a good paying job and fully supports me in continuing my education. He really doesn't want a stay at home wife which at times seems kind of nice to me! But I'd rather have someone support me to be all I can be--then someone who forces me to stay at home.

The part of the article that worries me most is the interpretations of the two different cultures. All along I have known of the differences, but the author makes them sound unresolvable. It is a little discouraging. Sometimes I feel like we have 3 strikes against us already....cross cultural, interracial, visa process, racism, etc.

Well, it 'aint easy to be sure.' And the differences sometimes are HUGE. BUt the author doesn't give percentages. And the majority of marraiges fail within the first two years or at the 7 year mark. I guess what I feel we need is more positive feedback. Because anyone can look at statistics and say yes--that is what is going to happen to me--or one can say nothing is impossible. But with a disclaimer--that there probably come a point where neough is enough. But why look at it negatively.

Everybody told me before I married that my marraige would be harder since its cross-cultural. And I believed them. But for every thing that's hard, I have to dwell on what's good. And alot of what is good is beacuse of the cultural difference. I guess I'm an optimist--but just because its interracial, intercultural--and international--doesn't mean you're doomed for failure. It might, but why look at it that way. Sometimes I feel the cultural differences are so huge they cannot be surmounted--but they always are in time. I don't believe in doom saying. The reality is there--and its TOUGH. But the reality is not that one is doomed for failure. Sorry for the long rant.

February 17, 2005--mailed in I 129F to CSC!

February 24, 2005--1st NOA

March 15, 2005--2nd NOA

April 11, 2005--Fiance receives Packet 3

May 19, 2005 Fax Checklist(Nigeria police report finally arrives)

June 6, 2005-- Interview Date!!!!Visa approved!!

June 18, 2005--Fiancee arrives in Hawaii!

August 14, 2005--wedding in Oregon

September 12, 2005--sent in AOS

September 20, 2005--1st NOA AOS

September 23, 2005--Walk-in biometrics completed

October 1, 2005--fingerprints received/processing resumed

November 26, 2005--EAD card received in mail

June 7, 2006--contact senators about AOS

June 28, 2006--senator says interview date is for August 14!!

August 14, 2006--AOS interview and 1 year wedding anniversary

Filed: Timeline
Posted

Well, I don't give much on these type statistics. What about all the African immigrants that eventually divorce here becuase their marriage wasn't actually one to begin with? You know, someone wins a DV slot and sells the "spouse" slot off to provide for the cost of processing the visa, the ticket and to leave some funds for the family they leave behind until they can sponsor them over later on. Or the former African immigrant that returns home to marry brothers, sisters, cousins or (again) strangers for money once accorded US citizenship. This happens every day. Those "marriages" typically last two to three years and since there are quite a number of them, they skew the stats significantly...

Posted

Well i wouldn't pay 2 much attention to the article because it's only statistics. what about the stats of the marriages that are still 2gether? My hubby has introduced me 2 quite a few married couples: Nigerians w/African Americans and also w/ Caucasians and all those marriages are still holding strong. Im talking about 10+years!!!! (L):thumbs::dance: Now where are the stats for that! Marriages fail for many different reasons. It just depends on the 2 people involved and their expectations of one another. Marriage is what you make it to be.!!!

Sweetee

A good marriage begins when both partners feel they got better than they deserve~~~~~~~~~~~~~

K1 TIMELINE

09/23/2003...NOA1(TSC)

02/05/2004...NOA2

02/16/2004...NVC CLEARED

03/09/2004...PACKET RECEIVED(FIANCEE PICKED UP)

06/07/2004...INTERVIEW DATE(SUCCESSFULL.....GOD IS IN CONTROL)

06/10/2004...VISA IN HAND

06/25/2004...USA ARRIVAL

06/29/2004...Applied for SSN

07/06/2004...Applied for Job(SUCCESS)

07/12/2004...SSN arrived in mail

07/15/2004...Began new Job

08/11/2004...WEDDING DATE....(Court)

09/15/2004...EAD & I-485 filed(via infopass)

09/27/2004...EAD & I-485 Receipt date

10/01/2004...NOA 1

10/08/2004...Received Driver's License

11/22/2004...Biometrics

12/27/2004...EAD approval

12/31/2004...EAD card arrives

01/01/2005...Church Wedding(Happy New Year!!!)

03/29/2005...I-485 interview(APPROVED!!!)

04/08/2005...Green Card arrival

12/29/2006...Lift Conditions pending(90 day advance filing)

Posted

Staggering Stats. One friend of mine who divorced his Peace Corp bride sited some of those same reasons for the divorce. However, he promptly returned home and married a girl 15 years his junior from his own village. Just thought I'd add that.

The longer it takes to introduce yourself the less you've actually accomplished

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Nigeria
Timeline
Posted

Like most things in relationships (and the visa process) it is important to be aware of things and know there may be stuggles and that you are committed to work through them.

Met on internet 6/04. Married at court house in Aba, Nigeria 12/04. 3/05 traditional ceremony in Nigeria w/ my picture. 12/05 finally together again. 4/06 ceremony/celebration in the states together

I 130

1/10/05-sent

2/11/05-NOA1

5/30-touch

6/16-rep contact

6/27-Approved

7/?/05-ds3032/i864 bill generated

7/22/05-sent payment $70

8/1/05-IV visa bill generated

8/11/05-sent bill overnight

8/20/05- rec. 864 packet

8/25/05- nvc rec. IV bill

8/29/05-overnight 864

9/6/05-rec. ds230 (waiting on husband info)

9/28/05-sent ds230

9/29/05-ds230 rec

11/9/05 RFE for orig. birth cert.

11/9/05-sent origional

11/29/05 case complete-abandoned for k-3

129f

3/2/05 sent 3/15/04 noa 1 6/17/05 touched

6/20/05 touched 6/29/05 -heard approved on phone

7/21/05 - husband got packet/interview date at consulate

12/15/05- visa Approved!

12/20/05 picked up visa

AOS

1/9/06 mailed AOS & EAD

1/18/06 NOA 1 AOS and EAD

2/8/06 received appt. notice for bio

2/2/06 EAD touched

2/22/06 EAD touched

3/6/06 apt. date for both bio.

3/7/06 AOS/EAD touched

3/10/06 EAD on it's way

3/14/06 received EAD

3/20/06 filed for ssn

3/28/06 rec ssn

5/10/06 rec noa for AOS interview on June 26

6/22/06 found out pregnant- So happy!!!!

6/26/06 interview-Officer led us to believe we'd have card soon

7/8/06 e-mail stating welcome letter on it's way!

7/13/06 rec. Green card. Yipee!!

Filed: Timeline
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I married a Nigerian my freshman year in college and it was the same situation. We were married for 7 years, long enough for him to get a BA, Masters and citizenship. He then divorced me and married a girl from the Bahamas, whom accepted his abusive behavior and constant cheating. It taught me not to be the same fool twice. I have found love again, but the recovery was HELL. DeNitra

Posted

It is difficult to assess the accuracy of the author claims and findings, which are merely a list of comments, stereotypes and sweeping generalizations, which fall short of analysis and statistics. I can only read comments but no real information (that’s true of a lot of information that I read in the newspaper anyway).

One factor is the impact of the new American culture. Africans in America stumble on the American culture of rights, and, in many cases, do not know how to handle it”: the same true of all immigrants regardless of their nationality, isn't it?

“In Africa, women are inferior to men, and men have more rights than women. In a typical family, women play domestic roles, while the men are the bread winners. Women do household chores, raise the kids and serve the husband”. That is true in most developing countries in the world, including India and Asia. This stereotype doesn’t account for the many African women who hold university degrees, owns businesses, and are professionals in all areas of the economy and are active participants in society. ILO (International Labor Organization) has revealed that the majority of African women are employed, but mainly in the agriculture sector where they account for a large proportion the workforce. From my own observations, I have noticed that African men and women play an equally important role in raising their children and that both share the family’s responsibilities.

“Domestic abuse incidents are very high in African families.” Domestic abuse is an equal opportunity oppressor. The latest statistics in the US have shown that domestic abuse exists in every class of society, regardless of race, social standing and/or nationality. ”Nearly one-third of American women (31 percent) report being physically or sexually abused by a husband or boyfriend at some point in their lives, according to a 1998 Commonwealth Fund survey" (http://www.endabuse.org/resources/facts/)

“The highest number of divorces occur in African cross-culture and or racial marriages”. On what sources does the author rely? According to a very thorough article on interracial marriages by Victor Greto (vgreto@sun-sentinel.com) : "there are no reliable statistics on interracial divorces”. The truth is that divorce is perhaps more prevalent among people with economic disadvantages. "People with economic are just as likely to marry as other people, but their marriages are substantially more unstable. There is a martial quality gap between low-income and other couples but it is not as large as might be expected based on the differences in marital disruption rates" ("Married and Poor: Basic Characteristics of Economically Disadvantaged Couples in the US" by David Feinh http://www.mdrc.org/publications/393/workpaper.html. )

Sometimes I think I know everything, and I regain consciousness. Seen it all, done it all, forgot most of it....

So much plenitude, yet so much emptiness

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The Journey, Part I: I-129F (K-3)

I 129F sent to Chicago 11/14/05

NOA1 12/14/05, received by snail mail 12/23/05

NOA2 01/17/06, received by snail mail 01/20/05

Received Packet "3" 02/17/06

Medicals done in Nairobi 03/22/06

VISA APPROVED in Nairobi 03/30/06

Husband arrives ni USA!

The Journey, Part II: EAD and AOS

EAD mailed to Chicago 05/17/06

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Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Nigeria
Timeline
Posted

You get out of a marriage what you put into a marriage. It doesn't work if you have only one spouse who is willing to work on a marriage. It is a 50/50 deal, give and take. USA divorce rates are high, period. To generalize and state that abuse is high from African immigrants is "narrow-minded". I have been in abusive relationships and the people I was involved with were born and raised USA citizens. My husband is Nigerian and he is very kind to me. We have our disputes and disagreements but we work through them. Yes, culture plays a part....BUT in any dating relationship you only show your best behavior in order to win the heart of the one you are with. When you are married, the blinders come off......the real behavior begins to show......that is with anyone whether from the US or anywhere else.

I-129F- Mailed to MSC 02/16/04

NOA1- 02/27/04

08/26/04 Petition "Touched"

08/27/04 I-129F (K3) Approved

08/27/04 Recieved notice from MSC that my petition was transferred to an office in Washington DC?

08/30/04 Received Paper NOA2 Notice via USPS

08/30/04 Petition "Touched"

08/31/04 Petition "Touched"

09/07/04 Petition "Touched"

09/07/04 Petition received at NVC

09/10/04 Petition forwarded to the Consulate in Lagos

09/17/04 Petiton received at Consulate

09/20/04 Husband picked up packet @ the Embassy

interview scheduled when packet was picked up.

12/06/04 Interview Date

12/08/04 VISA picked up at Embassy

12/16/04 Husband arrived in US

12/30/04 Priority Date for AOS 12/30/04

04/25/05 Received Interview Date for AOS

06/14/05 AOS Interview Date in Pittsburgh, PA

06/15/05 AOS Approved...awaiting the GC

06/20/05 Received Welcome to America letter

06/23/05 Case updated on BCIS site

06/25/05 Green Card received!

http://spaces.msn.com/nkemalozie

Posted

Interesting but doesnt surprise me one bit!

LONDON TO CALIFORNIA ....

K1

May 5th 05 - K1 petition sent to CSC

August 23rd 05 - Visa Approved!!!

AOS and EAD

December 5th 05 - AOS and EAD sent

December 16th 05 - NOA's received for both AOS and EAD

December 31st 05 - Receive letter for AOS interview

February 6th 06 - AOS Interview - APPROVED

February 16th 06 - Biometrics Appointment

February 22nd 06 - EAD Approved via e mail

February 27th 06 - EAD card in mail!!!

March 6th 06 - Got a job!

March 17th 06 - Green Card Approval via e mail

March 18th 06 - 'Welcome to America' letter arrives

March 24th 06 - Green Card Arrives!

"Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world.

For indeed, that's all who ever have."

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Qatar
Timeline
Posted

I get contacted by Nigerian woman all the time on Yahoo Chat. Nigeria is the scam capital of the world, so while I wish everyone the best, who has a relationship with a Nigerian.......I would excercise caution.

I have only been to Nigeria 1 time, but lived in 2 different countries in west Afirca. for 3 1/2 years. Good Luck!!!!

 
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