Trump admin immigration changes? [merged threads]

[Ban Hammer 13,297]

1 hour ago, Dashinka said:

I tend to agree with you about tariffs, the costs will be passed on to the consumers much the same way corporate taxes are passed on to the consumers.  That being said, when there is unfair trade, something needs to be done, and tariffs (wto is a joke) seem to be the main tool.

tariffs increase the cost of the product, which means other countries (to include the usa) can compete again in the us market.  
given china using uyghur slave labor to produce items, tariffs would help reduce that slavery.

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/ilab/reports/child-labor/list-of-goods-print?combine=china&field_exp_exploitation_type_target_id_1=All&field_exp_good_target_id=All&items_per_page=10&tid=All&order=name&sort=asc

[MarJhi 950]

55 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

as they work for less money, said work depresses wages.....

The great myth is that those illegals do the work Americans won't do.

 

The truth is as you said, those illegals undercut the wages and they will do those jobs cheaper than an American is willing to do. If those doing those jobs were to leave, businesses who need workers will be forced to pay competitive wages. I thought the left was all about higher wages. 

[Pooky 3,778]

Same thing he does every night … try to take over the world!

 

 

 

[MarJhi 950]

Here is what should happen.

 

Close the border to anyone not doing the process that those of us on this site have done.

 

If someone is here illegally, no matter how long they have been here illegally, they need to apply to get in and get in the back of the line (No special consideration for those who came here the wrong way).

 

[Boiler 45,412]

Looks like NY has got a start on Trump

 

 

[Ban Hammer 13,297]

56 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Looks like NY has got a start on Trump

 

 

the only reason they ended it is they suspect the feds won't reimburse them now..........

[Neonred 3,553]

8 hours ago, Ban Hammer said:

tariffs increase the cost of the product, which means other countries (to include the usa) can compete again in the us market.  
given china using uyghur slave labor to produce items, tariffs would help reduce that slavery.

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/ilab/reports/child-labor/list-of-goods-print?combine=china&field_exp_exploitation_type_target_id_1=All&field_exp_good_target_id=All&items_per_page=10&tid=All&order=name&sort=asc

I can see the need for tariffs, especially goods that are coming in from China and Mexico where average wages are exceptionally low compared with that in the US.  It's killing manufacturing and jobs here.   Just today I went to pick up a new car battery at Walmart.  Noticed on top of the battery was a "Made in China" sticker.

 

Americans are addicted to "cheap" stuff.  (And that car battery wasn't all that cheap at $180)

[Nous Eb 117]

11 hours ago, Ban Hammer said:

tariffs increase the cost of the product, which means other countries (to include the usa) can compete again in the us market.  
given china using uyghur slave labor to produce items, tariffs would help reduce that slavery.

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/ilab/reports/child-labor/list-of-goods-print?combine=china&field_exp_exploitation_type_target_id_1=All&field_exp_good_target_id=All&items_per_page=10&tid=All&order=name&sort=asc

 

 

Thank you, it's baffling how little people understand about the economy, while it's not as hard to understand as they make you believe.

 

Trump added around 150 tariffs dusing his first term, yet the economy boomed, people paid less taxes and had more money in their pockets. Maybe it will also help people to consider what they buy before they buy a bunch of junk they don't need.

 

Another good thing about tariffs is that businesses abroad will be forced to either lower their prices or -better yet- open manufaturing plants in the USA to avoid tariffs, creating jobs in the process. Many companies fled the USA because it wsa financially better to open HQ in other countries causing Americans to lose their jobs while still being able to import their stuff for cheap into the USA. Tariffs end and reverse that. 

Here is some interesting information on tariffs:

 

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Who Pays A Tariff?

U.S. importers pay the bill for tariffs on goods imported into the U.S., but the question of who ultimately pays the tariff cost is more complicated.

When President Trump imposed tariffs of 10% on $200 billion worth of Chinese imports in September 2018, Walmart (WMT) and other retailers said the tariffs would result in some combination of higher prices or lower profits.

Bicycles built in China were among the products on Trump's tariff list. A 10% tariff on a bike with a wholesale cost of $60 would add $6 to Walmart's cost of importing that bike.

Walmart could pay $3 of the $6 cost and pass half of it on to customers, whose price would rise by $3. In that case, Walmart profit shrinks and customers are left with a thinner wallet.

The company exporting the bike also could share in the pain. Walmart could demand its supplier lower the price or lose the massive retailer's business.

Still another possible way to offset the hit to business profits and consumer wallets is through currency adjustment. If Chinese goods cost American importers less because of a stronger dollar, the cost of Trump's China tariffs wouldn't bite. Yet the yuan, after initially depreciating about 10% as China's economy slowed under the weight of tariffs, has since recovered the bulk of that decline.

On May 10, 2019, Trump proceeded to hike 10% tariffs to 25% on that $200 billion tranche of imports that included bicycles.

Consumers Didn't Pay China Tariff Costs

Even still, New York Fed researchers found that import prices from China, without the tariff on top, fell only 2% from June 2018 to September 2019 as tariffs ramped up. An October 2019 paper from researchers at Harvard, the Boston Fed and the University of Chicago's Booth School of Business found that major retailers imposed just a 0.7% price increase on products subject to a 20% tariff.

Bottom line: If end consumer prices and import prices were little changed, that means American importers have borne almost all of the cost of the tariffs. However, those importers may have sought to shift some imports to other countries that weren't subject to tariffs.

https://www.investors.com/news/economy/what-is-a-tariff/

 

So combine that with Trump's tax cuts for businesses (the importers) and Americans (the consumers) to compensate and low inflation and you have a system that protects American workers and effectively will put more money in everyone's pocket despite what the media is telling you. It will also make sure products are again built to last when built in the USA instead of much of the cheap junk from China. Your purchasing price might be higher but if you only have to buy it once a decade instead of every year, you will save money in the long run.

 

In addition, this term he will remove tax on tips, overtime and social security and even said he wants top get rid of federal income tax. So even IF you will pay for the tariffs, you will still be much better off financially.
 

Edited Saturday at 05:58 AM by Nous Eb

[Nous Eb 117]

On 11/7/2024 at 12:43 PM, PGA said:

OMG, everybody needs to turn off MSNBC or whatever propaganda media you're watching and take a deep breath. 

 

First, I've been watching/using this site for a long, long time and what I noticed over the years is that when Trump was President, with many people going through this process during that time, if their process was like one day late, they were all like "Trump this!" or "Trump that!" During the Biden Administration, I never heard any of that same sentiment; complaints about the delays sure but never direct blame to Biden even when the process was taking not days longer but months longer. 

 

My personal experience: we applied in the last year of Trump's presidency and the initial process for us was super fast. Thereafter, Biden came in and the remainder of the process seemed to slow to a snail's pace. Biden's fault? I can't say; however, it seems to me when you open the borders to a flood of people who claim "asylum," suddenly all of those agents who were working on a regular flow of activity (ie, the cases of the people on this very site) are dealing with an unprecedented amount of asylum applications.   

 

Just my personal opinion for what it's worth. 

 

Amen! 

The propaganda is a real issue. While independent media is being accused of spreading misinformation, it is actually the legacy media that is literally lying 99% of the time when it comes to Trump and his policies. The most recent example of Trump saying he'd protect women whether they liked it or not was shown in the media as if he was talking about 'reproductive rights' while I literally watched him say that earlier concerning the southern border and the women that were killed by illegal immigrants. How they can get away with it is baffling. The whole abortion thing is being twisted and people do not seem to understand that Roe v Wade was precisely that what they accuse its reversal of: federal mingling in the issue. Now it's back to the states and they will vote on it. If you want to use abortion as your birth control, stay in California, if you are against it, move to Florida. Those few big cities think they are living in a pure democracy, they are not. It's a constitutional republic that protects the individual from the crazy herd. It also protects small states from states like California. It is also why we have an electoral college and not a 'mob rule' election.

 

People REALLY need to cancel cable TV and start listening to different voices.

Edited Saturday at 06:12 AM by Nous Eb

[Kabedi3166 4]

I guess it's too early to know, but does anyone have any news or idea about what types of changes to expect to spousal and family immigration from the upcoming Trump administration? I am concerned that the rhetoric is very anti-immigrant and could negatively impact even legal immigration, or at the least slow down processing times. Anyone around during the last administration who has insights? 

[Marieke H 2,489]

I went through the K-1 visa process and AOS during the previous Trump administration, and nothing was really different from previous years. I don't think legal, family-based immigration will be affected much this time. Remember all those immigration fee increases a few years ago? Those were during the Biden administration. I'm not saying any policies are good or bad, but making legal immigration a lot more expensive has probably had a pretty serious effect on some families.

[Leeman15251 34]

I think, he is likely to bring back the public charge rules they had before. When I filed the AOS for my spouse there was a lot more paperwork but it was manageable, the rule was as ended before my husband has the interview so we wasted a lot of time and money on the extra documents. 
 

Fees could go up but that is normal so I doubt they would raise them exorbitantly or anything. The cost of processing cases have probably increased so new fees will probably be needed. 
 

The more unlikely changes, would be to limit the categories of people eligible for a visa. They has been some push to remove sibling and parent green card options. I doubt they would go for the change but it’s not impossible. Of course this is all theoretical now, won’t know for a while what the actual plan is. 

Edited 13 hours ago by Leeman15251

[JeanneAdil 6,471]

fee increases were first asked In 2022 and took years to be passed by USCIS 

 

. As described in our Fiscal Year 2022 Progress Report (PDF, 1.08 MB), immigration filings decreased dramatically in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic, and revenue temporarily dropped by 40%. A hiring freeze and workforce attrition reduced the agency’s capacity to complete cases, even as incoming caseloads rebounded to pre-COVID levels.

We lifted our hiring freeze in March 2021, and we are working to fill current vacancies by recruiting and training new staff—we are hiring!

We have continued to deliver improved services even in advance of the new fee rule. To stay on a strong fiscal footing and continue improving our delivery of timely decisions, we need the resources that this fee rule will provide.

 

Trump says his 1st priority is to send back the criminal illegals (out of the 11.7 million he plans to deport).  Those who are deported will take steps to return illegally same way they came the other times they were deported.  

 

Article by American  Immigration Council talks about the cost,  a timeframe and all issues including what it would do to our economy if illegals were not here to do jobs USC's don't want to do.

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/mass-deportation#:~:text=Removing One Million Undocumented Immigrants Per Year&text=ICE's current detention contracts include,39%2C000 people in early 2024.

 

Trump only in office 4 years so lets see what he can get done about the illegals

 

Dont' forget both his wifes came on US visas (along with a lot of his workers in Hotels)

 

I can see him putting the ban back on the countries with terrorist training camps 

[pushbrk 12,836]

I've been a member here since 2005.  The spouse and fiancée visa processes have been essentially the same the whole time.  Implementation of IMBRA and impacts from the Adam Walsh Act have been the big changes along with the K3 and K4 visas becoming virtually obsolete.  None of those changes can be attributed to any Presidential proposals or policies.  

 

That means no noticeable changes in those processes during the first Trump administration.  I'm not aware of proposals to change them in the future.

[Crazy Cat 41,728]

3 hours ago, Kabedi3166 said:

I am concerned that the rhetoric is very anti-immigrant

I have not seen anything as of now which indicates there will be any negative impact on legal immigration.  However, I would not want to be an individual who is out of status.  Time will tell.