Trump admin immigration changes? [merged threads]

[JeanneAdil 6,491]

fee increases were first asked In 2022 and took years to be passed by USCIS 

 

. As described in our Fiscal Year 2022 Progress Report (PDF, 1.08 MB), immigration filings decreased dramatically in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic, and revenue temporarily dropped by 40%. A hiring freeze and workforce attrition reduced the agency’s capacity to complete cases, even as incoming caseloads rebounded to pre-COVID levels.

We lifted our hiring freeze in March 2021, and we are working to fill current vacancies by recruiting and training new staff—we are hiring!

We have continued to deliver improved services even in advance of the new fee rule. To stay on a strong fiscal footing and continue improving our delivery of timely decisions, we need the resources that this fee rule will provide.

 

Trump says his 1st priority is to send back the criminal illegals (out of the 11.7 million he plans to deport).  Those who are deported will take steps to return illegally same way they came the other times they were deported.  

 

Article by American  Immigration Council talks about the cost,  a timeframe and all issues including what it would do to our economy if illegals were not here to do jobs USC's don't want to do.

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/mass-deportation#:~:text=Removing One Million Undocumented Immigrants Per Year&text=ICE's current detention contracts include,39%2C000 people in early 2024.

 

Trump only in office 4 years so lets see what he can get done about the illegals

 

Dont' forget both his wifes came on US visas (along with a lot of his workers in Hotels)

 

I can see him putting the ban back on the countries with terrorist training camps 

[pushbrk 12,876]

I've been a member here since 2005.  The spouse and fiancée visa processes have been essentially the same the whole time.  Implementation of IMBRA and impacts from the Adam Walsh Act have been the big changes along with the K3 and K4 visas becoming virtually obsolete.  None of those changes can be attributed to any Presidential proposals or policies.  

 

That means no noticeable changes in those processes during the first Trump administration.  I'm not aware of proposals to change them in the future.

[Crazy Cat 41,836]

3 hours ago, Kabedi3166 said:

I am concerned that the rhetoric is very anti-immigrant

I have not seen anything as of now which indicates there will be any negative impact on legal immigration.  However, I would not want to be an individual who is out of status.  Time will tell.

[pushbrk 12,876]

2 hours ago, Crazy Cat said:

I have not seen anything as of now which indicates there will be any negative impact on legal immigration.  However, I would not want to be an individual who is out of status.  Time will tell.

With specific regard to "anti immigrant rhetoric" details matter.  The rhetoric I'm hearing is anti-illegal migration.  Those of us who understand and are involved in the actual "immigration process", know the difference between "migration" and "immigration".  People in the USA illegally through migration or overstay, would be wise to get their affairs in order.

[Kabedi3166 5]

Yes, the main target of rhetoric is illegal immigration, with the talk of mass deportations. However, with Stephen Miller being named Deputy Chief of Staff overseeing immigration in his portfolio, there is some word that legal immigration (including what he terms "chain migration", or family-based immigration) is potentially at risk for being reduced or changed (sound like especially for those wishing to bring siblings and parents to US), as well as limitations like the Muslim travel ban, HB-1 visa changes, etc. 

Trump Allies Draw Up Plans Targeting Legal Immigration - WSJ

[TBoneTX 45,266]

Thread is merged with existing thread in the Current Events forum:

 

Edited November 13 by TBoneTX

[pushbrk 12,876]

Replying to

 

trump won, what next?

November 6

my predication is he'll massively cut funding for USCIS resulting in waiting times going from months and years, to decades. whatdo you all think?

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  It should be noted that USCIS is funded by fees charged to those who use it's services.  It is not taxpayer funded.  So the above, is a prediction based on a false understanding of USCIS funding.

[Melancholic Mage 107]

I had someone personally argue that illegals are actually needed to take the jobs that U.S. Citizens won't. That the economy would collapse if deportation should happen. As if this justifies all the possible drug mules, unvetted criminals, child traffickers, and cartel members pouring into the United States. 

 

There is no reasoning with these people. An open border is bad news for anyone lucky enough to be born here, or who have the privilege of being here legally. It's all scaremongering for those who lack skills in critical and objective thinking. Scream in the echo chamber loud enough and by golly it must be true. 

[TBoneTX 45,266]

This is quite interesting beyond the title.  Comments?

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The case for mass deportations

 

President-elect Donald Trump has pledged to "launch the largest deportation of criminals in American history."  That is a quote from a Nov. 2 rally in Salem, Virginia, but Trump has said precisely the same thing dozens of times.  Still, through the course of a long campaign, with his improvisational style, Trump has occasionally worded his pledge differently.  For example, at his Madison Square Garden rally, Trump said, "On day one, I will launch the largest deportation program in American history to get the criminals out."  At an Oct. 25 event in Austin, Texas, Trump said he "will launch the largest deportation program in American history" before adding, "We have no choice.  We have got to get all of these criminals, these murderers, and drug dealers, and everything, we're getting them out."  Back on May 24, at his rally in the South Bronx, Trump pledged to "immediately begin the largest criminal deportation operation in our country's history."  So, variations in wording aside, when Trump talks about mass deportation, he is talking about the mass deportation of criminals.

It's hard to imagine opposing Trump's proposal.  Who would want to help murderers and drug dealers who entered the country illegally remain in the United States?  Yet we have seen much talk that Trump deportation plans go far, far beyond criminals and will ultimately lead to 10 million, 15 million, or perhaps even 20 million people being removed from the country.  [...]

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/daily-memo/3225917/the-case-for-mass-deportations/

[Ban Hammer 13,332]

47 minutes ago, Melancholic Mage said:

I had someone personally argue that illegals are actually needed to take the jobs that U.S. Citizens won't. That the economy would collapse if deportation should happen. As if this justifies all the possible drug mules, unvetted criminals, child traffickers, and cartel members pouring into the United States. 

 

There is no reasoning with these people. An open border is bad news for anyone lucky enough to be born here, or who have the privilege of being here legally. It's all scaremongering for those who lack skills in critical and objective thinking. Scream in the echo chamber loud enough and by golly it must be true. 

i fully agree.  illegal workers work for less and undercut wages for those usc's with few skills (the young, the poor, etc) and the amount of money sent out of the us back to their home countries is staggering.  for all the noise i hear about a "living wage" it seems odd that the same who make noise about it are often the same who want sanctuary cities, thus having their cake and eating it too.
a search on google showed that

"Some estimate that undocumented workers send $70 billion back to their home countries each year.   Some news reports estimate that about 10% of remittances sent to Mexico in 2022 could have come from illegal activity."

[Ban Hammer 13,332]

5 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

This is quite interesting beyond the title.  Comments?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The case for mass deportations

 

President-elect Donald Trump has pledged to "launch the largest deportation of criminals in American history."  That is a quote from a Nov. 2 rally in Salem, Virginia, but Trump has said precisely the same thing dozens of times.  Still, through the course of a long campaign, with his improvisational style, Trump has occasionally worded his pledge differently.  For example, at his Madison Square Garden rally, Trump said, "On day one, I will launch the largest deportation program in American history to get the criminals out."  At an Oct. 25 event in Austin, Texas, Trump said he "will launch the largest deportation program in American history" before adding, "We have no choice.  We have got to get all of these criminals, these murderers, and drug dealers, and everything, we're getting them out."  Back on May 24, at his rally in the South Bronx, Trump pledged to "immediately begin the largest criminal deportation operation in our country's history."  So, variations in wording aside, when Trump talks about mass deportation, he is talking about the mass deportation of criminals.

It's hard to imagine opposing Trump's proposal.  Who would want to help murderers and drug dealers who entered the country illegally remain in the United States?  Yet we have seen much talk that Trump deportation plans go far, far beyond criminals and will ultimately lead to 10 million, 15 million, or perhaps even 20 million people being removed from the country.  [...]

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/daily-memo/3225917/the-case-for-mass-deportations/

from newsweek on Feb 02, 2024

"The issue is a $150.7 billion one, shared between federal and state governments, and that's just one year."

https://www.newsweek.com/illegal-immigration-costs-us-billions-biden-administration-policy-impact-taxpayer-burden-1866555

[TBoneTX 45,266]

15 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

"The issue is a $150.7 billion one, shared between federal and state governments, and that's just one year."

And that ain't chump change.

[pushbrk 12,876]

19 hours ago, Ban Hammer said:

i fully agree.  illegal workers work for less and undercut wages for those usc's with few skills (the young, the poor, etc) and the amount of money sent out of the us back to their home countries is staggering.  for all the noise i hear about a "living wage" it seems odd that the same who make noise about it are often the same who want sanctuary cities, thus having their cake and eating it too.
a search on google showed that

"Some estimate that undocumented workers send $70 billion back to their home countries each year.   Some news reports estimate that about 10% of remittances sent to Mexico in 2022 could have come from illegal activity."

I wonder what is included in reports about "illegal activity".  Is that illegal migrants working, or illegal migrants making money from other criminal activity, or both?

[TiffAndMike 54]

I honestly think that his primary focus upon entering office is going to be on closing the border and getting all these violent criminals, cartels and gang members out of this country. He will implement the "Remain in Mexico" policy again.  All of  Biden's "Parole in Place" policies will cease to exists. 

 

He will either try to get countries that refuse to let us deport their citizens to take them back or he will just flat out deny their visas.

 

He eventually will attempt to end family chain migration, abolish certain types of visas and change the law on "birthright citizenship" by requiring at least one parent to be either a USC or LPR. 

 

Most countries actually do require at least one parent to be a naturalized citizen in order for their child to be granted citizenship of that country. 

 

I don't believe that those of us who have immediate family or fiance cases will be affected negatively. They just raised the fees on those this year so I doubt they will raise them again.

 

I think if anything, our cases will actually speed up drastically since they won't be in a rush to issue work permits to everyone under the sun with false asylum claims. 

 

USCIS is primarily fee funded by those of us who go through the legal channels. There are currently quite a few "fee waivers" right now. I'm pretty sure that most of them will go away as they should.  

 

The current backlog that we have is due to a lot of the immigration policies Biden put into place and not requiring fees for them. 

 

Think about it, if USCIS isn't getting money from certain petitions, then they have no money to hire more staff to process those petitions.  As a result, USCIS has to allocate the bulk of their staff to process those petitions while the backlog of paid petitions keeps growing longer and longer. 

 

When I first applied for my husband to come to the states in December 2023, the current wait time was 11 months. If the wait time would of stayed consistent,  I'd be getting my approval any day now if I didn't already have it. 

 

Evey single time Biden created a new parole in place scheme, I saw my wait time continue to climb up. It is now sitting at 15.5 months! 6 1/2 extra months than it was when I filed.  

 

I actually voted for Trump as I saw him as my only hope to get my husband here with me sometime in the next year.  With Kamala, I'd probably be waiting another 4 or 5 years.  

[Ban Hammer 13,332]

23 hours ago, pushbrk said:

I wonder what is included in reports about "illegal activity".  Is that illegal migrants working, or illegal migrants making money from other criminal activity, or both?

i suspect the "illegal activity" would be most likely felony level crimes.