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Ugh, I got caught in this.  I now always try to show them my US passport when leaving the country, but it doesn't always work.  I'm a dual citizen, and was pulled into secondary screening at immigration coming back into the US, because I had used my NZ passport.  I assume it must have been leaving the US?  Because I can't see that NZ immigration was sharing information with them about which passport I entered NZ on.  They told me I had to ALWAYS use my US passport to travel.

 

(Best part about this - my kids were both with me.  My son was about 7.  We're sitting in the very quiet room with all the detained people.  No one was allowed to use electronics, so my kids are just looking around the room.  My son asks me, quite loudly "Mom, what's sexual assault?"  Thank you to the poster that told you who to call if the immigration officer sexually assaulted you!)

On J visas.  Spouse won DV lottery while in US.  Did AOS from the US.

 

Boston field office, GC holder for 10 years.

Citizenship received in 2016, took ~5 months from application to passport.

Spouse received citizenship in 2019

 

 

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45 minutes ago, kiwibean said:

Ugh, I got caught in this.  I now always try to show them my US passport when leaving the country, but it doesn't always work.  I'm a dual citizen, and was pulled into secondary screening at immigration coming back into the US, because I had used my NZ passport.  I assume it must have been leaving the US?  Because I can't see that NZ immigration was sharing information with them about which passport I entered NZ on.  They told me I had to ALWAYS use my US passport to travel.

 

(Best part about this - my kids were both with me.  My son was about 7.  We're sitting in the very quiet room with all the detained people.  No one was allowed to use electronics, so my kids are just looking around the room.  My son asks me, quite loudly "Mom, what's sexual assault?"  Thank you to the poster that told you who to call if the immigration officer sexually assaulted you!)

Which passport did you use to check in for the flight into US?

 

This info is shared with CBP

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On 11/8/2024 at 9:18 AM, OldUser said:

Which passport did you use to check in for the flight into US?

 

This info is shared with CBP

Sounds like she used her NZ passport when leaving NZ and showed the US passport when entering the US. She also might had left the US with the NZ passport being used for checking-in/buying the ticket. This method is recommended by many dual citizens, but I've always been skeptical about it. The problem arises when buying a round trip from the US to the country of second citizenship. I blame the airlines. 

 

This problem is even more exposed when traveling between a third country and the country of non-US citizenship. 

I've been using my US passport everywhere, including the EU, where I have the other citizenship. I often travel to Japan and, ofc, use the US passport to enter. However, with the new EU electronic authorization rule, airlines will demand to see if I'm authorized to enter the EU (from Japan). Using a different passport when leaving Japan could easily create an overstay there, so that's not an option. If worse comes to worse, I'll travel to the EU via a land border port of entry, excluding the annoying airlines from the process. 

 

Also, for anyone who may be interested: Using the non-US passport may make it difficult to obtain a TS security clearance if you're applying for certain gov positions. 

Edited by randomstairs
03/04/2016 AOS (EB2-NIW concurrent with I-485) mailed to Lewisville TX Lockbox
03/07/2016 AOS delivered to USCIS and signed
03/12/2016 Case received by Nebraska Service Center (NSC)
03/14/2016 Text notification received for I-140/I-485/I-765/I-131.
04/08/2016 Biometrics notice received for 04/21
04/13/2016 Biometrics early walk-in completed.
04/15/2016 EAD/AP combo card received in mail.

 

Long wait begins...

 

11/04/2016 I-140/485 cases transferred from Nebraska to TCS
12/01/2016 Prepared package for EAD/AP renewal (expires 04/09/2017)
12/23/2016 USCIS suddenly changes several forms, invalidating my EAD/AP renewal package (not yet sent)
12/27/2016 USCIS suddenly reforms the entire NIW criteria system, replacing a 20 years old one. Uncharted waters. 
01/07/2017 (Saturday!) EAD/AP renewal package with new forms received in Phoenix "reception desk"
01/17/2017 EAD/AP renewal case accepted; text/email with receipt numbers was received
01/30/2017 Law firm finally confirms that USCIS has suspended processing all EB2-NIW cases due to new criteria. 
02/23/2017 USCIS slowly starts adjudicating NIW cases again.
04/21/2017 Extended EAD/AP received in mail. Valid for 2 years. 
05/06/2017 Received a massive RFE on I-140 NIW case.
07/20/2017 RFE response received by USCIS (a very long response with 30 pages of docs)
09/14/2017 I-140 NIW approved!!! 
11/28/2017 RFE for new medical issued (plus another request re Supp J for employment which is clearly issued in error)
12/04/2017 RFE received in mail
12/07/2017 repeated medical exam for I-485
12/08/2017 Attorney receives documents for responding to I-485 RFE
12/21/2017 Response to RFE received by USCIS 
02/09/2018 I-485 approval (text, email) :)
02/08/2018 I-485 approval notice issued (the "welcome letter") - I'm LPR now
02/16/2018 Green card received
 
11/14/2022 Filed N-400 online; receipt and biometrics reuse form received online
03/07/2023 N-400 Interview scheduled 
04/xx/2023 N-400 approved, same-day Oath ceremony completed. I'm a US citizen.
05/xx/2023 US passport in hand

 

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25 minutes ago, randomstairs said:

I often travel to Japan and, ofc, use the US passport to enter. However, with the new EU electronic authorization rule, airlines will demand to see if I'm authorized to enter the EU (from Japan). Using a different passport when leaving Japan could easily create an overstay there, so that's not an option.

 

Why not enter Japan on EU passport?

Then you don't have issue exiting Japan on EU passport travelling to EU.

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2 hours ago, randomstairs said:

Sounds like she used her NZ passport when leaving NZ and showed the US passport when entering the US. She also might had left the US with the NZ passport being used for checking-in/buying the ticket. This method is recommended by many dual citizens, but I've always been skeptical about it. The problem arises when buying a round trip from the US to the country of second citizenship. I blame the airlines. 

 

This problem is even more exposed when traveling between a third country and the country of non-US citizenship. 

I've been using my US passport everywhere, including the EU, where I have the other citizenship. I often travel to Japan and, ofc, use the US passport to enter. However, with the new EU electronic authorization rule, airlines will demand to see if I'm authorized to enter the EU (from Japan). Using a different passport when leaving Japan could easily create an overstay there, so that's not an option. If worse comes to worse, I'll travel to the EU via a land border port of entry, excluding the annoying airlines from the process. 

 

Also, for anyone who may be interested: Using the non-US passport may make it difficult to obtain a TS security clearance if you're applying for certain gov positions. 

 

For Japan, you can present your EU, or both, passports at check-in (to the airline employee, to justify how you will enter EU). Then, you present ONLY the passport you used to enter Japan to the exit border control agent.  I had to do this more than once when traveling with multiple passports.  

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4 hours ago, OldUser said:

 

Why not enter Japan on EU passport?

Then you don't have issue exiting Japan on EU passport travelling to EU.

I could try that the next time. When I check-in in the US I always use the US passport (that's my understanding of the law), so I fill in the Japanese immigration form with the same pp number. 

03/04/2016 AOS (EB2-NIW concurrent with I-485) mailed to Lewisville TX Lockbox
03/07/2016 AOS delivered to USCIS and signed
03/12/2016 Case received by Nebraska Service Center (NSC)
03/14/2016 Text notification received for I-140/I-485/I-765/I-131.
04/08/2016 Biometrics notice received for 04/21
04/13/2016 Biometrics early walk-in completed.
04/15/2016 EAD/AP combo card received in mail.

 

Long wait begins...

 

11/04/2016 I-140/485 cases transferred from Nebraska to TCS
12/01/2016 Prepared package for EAD/AP renewal (expires 04/09/2017)
12/23/2016 USCIS suddenly changes several forms, invalidating my EAD/AP renewal package (not yet sent)
12/27/2016 USCIS suddenly reforms the entire NIW criteria system, replacing a 20 years old one. Uncharted waters. 
01/07/2017 (Saturday!) EAD/AP renewal package with new forms received in Phoenix "reception desk"
01/17/2017 EAD/AP renewal case accepted; text/email with receipt numbers was received
01/30/2017 Law firm finally confirms that USCIS has suspended processing all EB2-NIW cases due to new criteria. 
02/23/2017 USCIS slowly starts adjudicating NIW cases again.
04/21/2017 Extended EAD/AP received in mail. Valid for 2 years. 
05/06/2017 Received a massive RFE on I-140 NIW case.
07/20/2017 RFE response received by USCIS (a very long response with 30 pages of docs)
09/14/2017 I-140 NIW approved!!! 
11/28/2017 RFE for new medical issued (plus another request re Supp J for employment which is clearly issued in error)
12/04/2017 RFE received in mail
12/07/2017 repeated medical exam for I-485
12/08/2017 Attorney receives documents for responding to I-485 RFE
12/21/2017 Response to RFE received by USCIS 
02/09/2018 I-485 approval (text, email) :)
02/08/2018 I-485 approval notice issued (the "welcome letter") - I'm LPR now
02/16/2018 Green card received
 
11/14/2022 Filed N-400 online; receipt and biometrics reuse form received online
03/07/2023 N-400 Interview scheduled 
04/xx/2023 N-400 approved, same-day Oath ceremony completed. I'm a US citizen.
05/xx/2023 US passport in hand

 

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2 hours ago, Lemonslice said:

 

For Japan, you can present your EU, or both, passports at check-in (to the airline employee, to justify how you will enter EU). Then, you present ONLY the passport you used to enter Japan to the exit border control agent.  I had to do this more than once when traveling with multiple passports.  

Yes, that's exactly what I plan to do. I wasn't sure if it could work, so it's good to hear from someone with a first hand experience.

03/04/2016 AOS (EB2-NIW concurrent with I-485) mailed to Lewisville TX Lockbox
03/07/2016 AOS delivered to USCIS and signed
03/12/2016 Case received by Nebraska Service Center (NSC)
03/14/2016 Text notification received for I-140/I-485/I-765/I-131.
04/08/2016 Biometrics notice received for 04/21
04/13/2016 Biometrics early walk-in completed.
04/15/2016 EAD/AP combo card received in mail.

 

Long wait begins...

 

11/04/2016 I-140/485 cases transferred from Nebraska to TCS
12/01/2016 Prepared package for EAD/AP renewal (expires 04/09/2017)
12/23/2016 USCIS suddenly changes several forms, invalidating my EAD/AP renewal package (not yet sent)
12/27/2016 USCIS suddenly reforms the entire NIW criteria system, replacing a 20 years old one. Uncharted waters. 
01/07/2017 (Saturday!) EAD/AP renewal package with new forms received in Phoenix "reception desk"
01/17/2017 EAD/AP renewal case accepted; text/email with receipt numbers was received
01/30/2017 Law firm finally confirms that USCIS has suspended processing all EB2-NIW cases due to new criteria. 
02/23/2017 USCIS slowly starts adjudicating NIW cases again.
04/21/2017 Extended EAD/AP received in mail. Valid for 2 years. 
05/06/2017 Received a massive RFE on I-140 NIW case.
07/20/2017 RFE response received by USCIS (a very long response with 30 pages of docs)
09/14/2017 I-140 NIW approved!!! 
11/28/2017 RFE for new medical issued (plus another request re Supp J for employment which is clearly issued in error)
12/04/2017 RFE received in mail
12/07/2017 repeated medical exam for I-485
12/08/2017 Attorney receives documents for responding to I-485 RFE
12/21/2017 Response to RFE received by USCIS 
02/09/2018 I-485 approval (text, email) :)
02/08/2018 I-485 approval notice issued (the "welcome letter") - I'm LPR now
02/16/2018 Green card received
 
11/14/2022 Filed N-400 online; receipt and biometrics reuse form received online
03/07/2023 N-400 Interview scheduled 
04/xx/2023 N-400 approved, same-day Oath ceremony completed. I'm a US citizen.
05/xx/2023 US passport in hand

 

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33 minutes ago, randomstairs said:

Yes, that's exactly what I plan to do. I wasn't sure if it could work, so it's good to hear from someone with a first hand experience.

The trick is to remember that airline check in is to make sure you can enter your destination, they do not look into how you entered your current location.  Countries with border exit control will want to see the document(s) you used to enter.   

 

Also best to only show what is necessary to not confuse them.

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