[LAWYER QUESTION] Now Trump has won a second term...

[Boiler 45,467]

I think the point is that he has said nothing about this, not even implied it, and why would he?

 

The more interesting question is where this comes from?

[Dashinka 24,488]

20 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I think the point is that he has said nothing about this, not even implied it, and why would he?

 

The more interesting question is where this comes from?

He hasn't, but his political opponents and their MSM allies have certainly raised the issue on a few occasions, one wonders why they call it fake news.  

[ilikepotatoes 57]

Trump’s own wife is a legal immigrant. I don’t understand the hysteria over his immigration policies - he is against ILLEGALS who have no right to be here in the first place. Anyone who has gone through the process legally should have nothing to fear. 

[KMG 125]

21 hours ago, OHeyItsRick said:

 

Because of the policies put forward by the incoming President and because I am a, albeit legally married and legal immigrant, homosexual.

 

Yeah. The lawyer I spoke to (through this site, actually) said as much, too. So... that's good to know but it's still pretty damn scary.

There is A LOT of misinformation about Trump...https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gop-president-elect-donald-trump-sex-marriage-settled/story?id=43513067

[appleblossom 2,478]

37 minutes ago, ilikepotatoes said:

Trump’s own wife is a legal immigrant. I don’t understand the hysteria over his immigration policies - he is against ILLEGALS who have no right to be here in the first place. Anyone who has gone through the process legally should have nothing to fear. 

 

Last time he cancelled or severely restricted immigration programs, including work visas. And he's repeatedly said he's going to get rid of legal migrants too i.e. the Haitians who are already here legally. I don't understand why anybody thinks he's only going to go after illegals when his own past actions and words say differently. And I can understand the OP's concerns.

Edited November 7 by appleblossom

[ilikepotatoes 57]

53 minutes ago, appleblossom said:

 

Last time he cancelled or severely restricted immigration programs, including work visas. And he's repeatedly said he's going to get rid of legal migrants too i.e. the Haitians who are already here legally. I don't understand why anybody thinks he's only going to go after illegals when his own past actions and words say differently. And I can understand the OP's concerns.

The liberal media is causing mass hysteria over Trump’s reelection. It’s illegals he’s after, and rightfully so. We should be happy about this - while undocumented aliens have been flooding through our border and getting special treatment, we get to go through the agonizingly long legal process ourselves or with our loved ones. We pay huge processing fees, while they are getting free handouts. People who break the laws of our country should not be given priority. 
 

Sick of the media telling only half truths. I’m sure the next headline will be something like “Trump to deport any immigrants who didn’t cross the Bering Land Bridge 15,000 years ago…”
 

 

[appleblossom 2,478]

3 minutes ago, ilikepotatoes said:

The liberal media is causing mass hysteria over Trump’s reelection. It’s illegals he’s after, and rightfully so.

 

 

As I said, it's his own words and actions which make it clear it's not just illegal immigrants. 

 

And I can sympathise with the OP and their worries due to it.

 

[Melancholic Mage 107]

 

Don't believe what you read or hear via the media. The unbiased and on-point observations made here make things quite clear what is actually happening on 'ground level'. 

[ilikepotatoes 57]

46 minutes ago, appleblossom said:

 

As I said, it's his own words and actions which make it clear it's not just illegal immigrants. 

 

And I can sympathise with the OP and their worries due to it.

 

It’s just nonsensical to think that someone who’s gone through the legal process could just randomly be deported. 
 

I truly feel sorry for anyone who is unnecessarily working themselves into a frenzy over this election. There truly is nothing to fear and I hope that with time, people will start to see that.

[appleblossom 2,478]

3 hours ago, ilikepotatoes said:

It’s just nonsensical to think that someone who’s gone through the legal process could just randomly be deported. 

 

I agree, it is nonsensical. But the migrants Trump has said he will deport ("you have to remove the people, and you have to bring them back to their own country") have been through the legal process of the TPS program, and random deportation is exactly what he's saying he'll do to them.

 

And remember the Muslim ban that he implemented last time? When 60,000+ people with visas had them 'provisionally revoked' even though they'd been through the legal process? And green card holders were refused flight boarding when trying to return to the US?

 

3 hours ago, ilikepotatoes said:

I truly feel sorry for anyone who is unnecessarily working themselves into a frenzy over this election. There truly is nothing to fear and I hope that with time, people will start to see that.

 

I hope you're right. But please don't dismiss the concerns that us legal migrants have, given his past actions and words towards other legal migrants in this country.

Edited November 7 by appleblossom

[TBoneTX 45,266]

Thread is moved from General Immigration Discussion to the Current Events forum, where political speculation is often posted.

[Dashinka 24,488]

I don't watch Hacking much, but the few times I did he seemed to be fairly anti-Trump.  I wonder if he has said anything since Tuesday.

[Boiler 45,467]

Here you are

 

 

When he says Immigrant he mainly means undocumented etc so can be confusing.

 

Now to be fair he did not have much time for Biden, extended timelines and did nothing. And actually called KK likely to lose sometime back.

 

Obviously this is all speculation and time will tell.

[Nous Eb 126]

Every day I see more ridiculous posts over what Trump will and will not do that are 100% made up by the legacy media.

 

Trump is NOT anti-gay. In fact, he is more liberal on that topic than most conservatives. Unless you have children under 18 and you want to but them on hormone blockers of give them gender 'reaffirming' surgery, you have nothing to worry about. Trump's 2017 executive order Promoting Free Speech and Religious Liberty reinforced that federal law must respect conscience-based objections to comply with the First Amendment. That means that if a Christian baker declines to make your wedding cake, he has that right to do so if he feels that goes against his religious beliefs. You can easily go to a different baker as the vast majority will have no issues making that cake. Your right to marry does not mean that the baker's right to freedom of speech and religious liberty is off the table. His rights are just as valid as yours. If you want people to respect your way of life, you will have to return the favor. 

 

The other order bans transgender people from the military. And rightfully so. The whole transgender thing these days is insane. The military needs people who are strong both physically and mentally. I am even more conservative and am of the opinion that women should not have certain combat roles unless they can pass the same training and test as the males. The military is no joke although these days it surely looks like one.

 

 

Now this term I certainly hope he will ban the mutilation of children since it is absolute horrifying what is happening today with woke parents transitioning their sons because they touched a barbie doll or their daughters because the wanted to play with a toy car o wear a blue t-shirt. It is out of control and lives are being ruined. 

 

Years ago Trump has said he would like to see Obergefell v. Hodges overturned. I am not sure he still stands by that, but I agree with him. These types of things should be handles by the states. Conservative states should not be forced to perform gay marriages when it goes against the beliefs of most residents of that state. Smaller states need to be protected and not be forced by the highly populated liberal states like California. It's the exact same as Roe v Wade being sent back to the states. Let those states decide for themselves. Trump doesn't care if your gay or straight, he just doesn't want the LGBTQ+ community to rule the whole country and make decisions for other people.

 

The insane reactions I have seen from people is scary! Some are saying they will kill themselves based on 100% misinformation and stuff taken out of context. Women crying as if the world just ended because their 'rights will be taken away' (read: they should stop using abortion as their birth control).... I am in awe with what I see. Extreme brainwashing at work. Trump just appointed the first female Chief of Staff and appointed openly gay Richard Grennell in his first term as both ambassador to Germany and Acting Director of National Intelligence who then did this: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-administration-launches-global-effort-end-criminalization-homosexuality-n973081

People need to take a chill pill. I would have thought this TDS would be less this time because Trump literally already served a full term and everyone is still alive to tell. 

[EmilyW 1,434]

Here's the thing: both major parties use disinformation to prove their point.  Such is American politics.  I'd rather this robustness than the limp handshake of Europe and Australia, both continents I have lived in, and refuse to live in again.  Places where there is an active pretense of civility that is not manifested in reality.

 

As citizens and LPRs, it's our job to be alert and cogent to that disinformation, and to be rigorous adjudicators.  Is more than half the country racist, misogynistic, bigoted, blah blah blah?  No more than any other country, and I've lived in a few.  Heck, Australia is more racist than the US, in my experience.  And the UK, where I spent a year, isn't too fond of 'Pakis' like me, as I was informed on the regular back in the 90s / early 2000s when I lived there.

 

I like Kamala.  I don't mind Trump.  The US is bigger than both. 

 

TLDR; again, no-one is coming after the LGBTQ+ community.  You would have been more in danger when Obama came into office against same sex marriage.