Hillary says she has never been in favor of socialized medicine

[LuzyC 0]

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Edited August 13, 2007 by LuzyC

[GaryC 7]

The sticking point with your argument that costs will go down is obvious. The US government has already shown that it cannot manage Medicare or Social Security. To give them control over the nations health care is insane. Sure, the way we do things now is not perfect but it is drastically preferred by me over the way the government would do it. I don't trust the government to control my health care.

But you trust some solely profit oriented insurance bureaucrat and a red tape apparatus built by the private health care industry that is more wasteful and inefficient than the government in any of the existing programs or any government that runs health care for it's people. The problem with your argument is that the supposition that the privately run health care delivers better results and/or lower cost is simply not in tune with reality.

At least now if I don't like what I am getting I can change jobs and find one that is better. (done it several times now when the company cut back bennies) If the government got into it I would no longer have that option. I don't trust the government and I do not want them to be the only game in town. Let me make my own choices. Don't force yours onto me.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

I gotta question. What the ** in life is gauranteed? This thing about needing security goes back to your childhood. The reality is, do the best you can, deal what is dealt you and move on. Gaurantees come with cars and sh!t you buy in stores. If you find a coupon for a gaurantee involving lifes little challenges, let me know.

Its so simple. Your born, you live,you die. The key is to enjoy everything in between.

God made unpaved roads for a reason. If the road of life gets too rough, pull over.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I gotta question. What the ** in life is gauranteed?

Death and illness

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

I gotta question. What the ** in life is gauranteed?

Death and illness

You forgot taxes.

[Ban Hammer 13,752]

I gotta question. What the ** in life is gauranteed?

Death and illness

You forgot taxes.

i'm glad to see you two finally agree on something

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

I gotta question. What the ** in life is gauranteed?

Death and illness

You forgot taxes.

i'm glad to see you two finally agree on something

I was hoping old #6 might offer to pre-pay me a grave site or at least get the govament to buy me one.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

The sticking point with your argument that costs will go down is obvious. The US government has already shown that it cannot manage Medicare or Social Security. To give them control over the nations health care is insane. Sure, the way we do things now is not perfect but it is drastically preferred by me over the way the government would do it. I don't trust the government to control my health care.

But you trust some solely profit oriented insurance bureaucrat and a red tape apparatus built by the private health care industry that is more wasteful and inefficient than the government in any of the existing programs or any government that runs health care for it's people. The problem with your argument is that the supposition that the privately run health care delivers better results and/or lower cost is simply not in tune with reality.

At least now if I don't like what I am getting I can change jobs and find one that is better. (done it several times now when the company cut back bennies) If the government got into it I would no longer have that option. I don't trust the government and I do not want them to be the only game in town. Let me make my own choices. Don't force yours onto me.

I see you keep avoiding the central issue: The fact that the private system we have costs more and delivers less than any government run system anywhere - including right here in the US.