US citizen filed for children over 21

[pushbrk 12,914]

I'm actually not an expert on sponsorship of adult children and their families.  However, what many do in a situation like this is to proceed with the visas for only those they can currently sponsor, so that the adults can come to the USA, go to work and act as joint sponsors for the rest of the the family.  For everybody to come at once, if you have a joint sponsor earning 200k, do the math with the I-864p and go from there.  Another thought would be to use different joint sponsor for each family or for one or more families the 200k sponsor doesn't qualify for.

[MSSF 8]

23 hours ago, pushbrk said:

I'm actually not an expert on sponsorship of adult children and their families.  However, what many do in a situation like this is to proceed with the visas for only those they can currently sponsor, so that the adults can come to the USA, go to work and act as joint sponsors for the rest of the the family.  For everybody to come at once, if you have a joint sponsor earning 200k, do the math with the I-864p and go from there.  Another thought would be to use different joint sponsor for each family or for one or more families the 200k sponsor doesn't qualify for.

 So you mean, 2 applicants can be sponsored b joint sponsor 10 ppl, with 200k income?

 

how do i fill i-864 and i-864A part 3?

 

I believe i need to fill i-864 and i-864a both but i am not sure what to select in part 3 of both the petitioner and joint sponsor’s i-864A.

[MSSF 8]

23 hours ago, pushbrk said:

I'm actually not an expert on sponsorship of adult children and their families.  However, what many do in a situation like this is to proceed with the visas for only those they can currently sponsor, so that the adults can come to the USA, go to work and act as joint sponsors for the rest of the the family.  For everybody to come at once, if you have a joint sponsor earning 200k, do the math with the I-864p and go from there.  Another thought would be to use different joint sponsor for each family or for one or more families the 200k sponsor doesn't qualify for.

Part 3. Information About the Immigrants You Are Sponsoring

1. I am sponsoring the principal immigrant named in Part 2.
_ Yes No (Applicable only if you are sponsoring family members in Part 3. as the second joint sponsor or if you are sponsoring family members who are immigrating more than six months after the principal immigrant)

2.I am sponsoring the following family members immigrating at the same time or within six months of the principal immigrant named in Part 2. (Do not include any relative listed on a separate visa petition.)

 

3. I am sponsoring the following family members who are immigrating more than six months after the principal immigrant.

[Dashinka 24,538]

17 minutes ago, MSSF said:

 So you mean, 2 applicants can be sponsored b joint sponsor 10 ppl, with 200k income?

 

how do i fill i-864 and i-864A part 3?

 

I believe i need to fill i-864 and i-864a both but i am not sure what to select in part 3 of both the petitioner and joint sponsor’s i-864A.

According to the I864P, for 23, a person would need to make a minimum of $166,775.  
 

https://www.uscis.gov/i-864p

[pushbrk 12,914]

1 hour ago, MSSF said:

 So you mean, 2 applicants can be sponsored b joint sponsor 10 ppl, with 200k income?

 

how do i fill i-864 and i-864A part 3?

 

I believe i need to fill i-864 and i-864a both but i am not sure what to select in part 3 of both the petitioner and joint sponsor’s i-864A.

Joint sponsor also does I-864, not the "a". The "a" version is for combining income.  Petitioners do not combine income with joint sponsors.  Now is the time to become an A-Student of the I-864 and its excellent instructions.

[Family 4,014]

59 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

According to the I864P, for 23, a person would need to make a minimum of $166,775.  
 

https://www.uscis.gov/i-864p

Each I-864 only needs to show qualifying income for that immigrant family plus 1 ( sponsor) . So family of 5 add 1 and show income for six only. 
 

It does NOT matter that you are also sponsoring the other families. They are NOT counted until each sponsored immigrant is granted LPR…so perfectly fine fo all siblings go through process at same time

[Family 4,014]

On 10/21/2024 at 7:21 AM, MSSF said:

Good morning, 

 

my father filed for 4 children who are over 21 and married. After 10 years we received a letter asking for Affidavit of support, ds230 and fees. 
 

Child 1 is principal applicant has total 4 members: himself, spouse and 2 children

Child 2, principal applicant has total 5 members: himself, spouse and 3

Child 3, principal applicant has total 5 members: himself, spouse and 3

 

Child 4, principal applicant has total 5 members: himself, spouse and 2

 

now my father don’t have enough income to support total 18 ppl. 
 

I understand there is option for follow to join, do we need a sponsor and income to show now for follow to join members? 
 

if dad have total $40 income, how to handle this situation?

 

like, who’s affidvit we should fill first and next?

Do not delay anyone’s case because you are being misinformed on what is actually required. 

Go get some legal help before making decisions. 
 

You can easily find a Joint Sponsor that makes enough . If Joint Sponsor is single ( for example) , he only needs income for 6. Look at poverty guidelines.

 

AND most importantly, he can be Joint Sponsor for ALL of them
 

Not sure why everyone responding is telling you they need to qualify on income for 23 immigrants. That is absolutely incorrect 

[Family 4,014]

On 10/22/2024 at 11:36 AM, MSSF said:

another question: can someone with over 200k can sponsor everyone? This person has 5 total members of his own. Sponsored 4 ppl already as well. And our family members are total 18

Your rich friend will qualify as a joint sponsor for everyone ( all 18 ) of your family as follows 

He needs income for 14 and clearly exceeds it 

 

   ( 5 of his own. 4 previously sponsored, 5 new of yours ) 

 

[MSSF 8]

4 hours ago, Family said:

Your rich friend will qualify as a joint sponsor for everyone ( all 18 ) of your family as follows 

He needs income for 14 and clearly exceeds it 

 

   ( 5 of his own. 4 previously sponsored, 5 new of yours ) 

 

Thanks for responding but i am so confused. 
 

my brains is all smushed. 
 

so again, there are 4 kids my dad is sponsoring who are all married 

 

Family A has total 4 

family b has total 5

family c has total 5

family d has total 4

 

joint sponsor with over 200k said he will sponsor 2 families. 
 

my dad makes 39k but has 1 LPR under him which he sponsored earlier.

 

when joint sponsor support 2 familes, lets say for family b and c, do i fill only 1 i-864 for from joint sponsor for each family or my dad fill one too?

 

 

 

Just now, MSSF said:

Thanks for responding but i am so confused. 
 

my brains is all smushed. 
 

so again, there are 4 kids my dad is sponsoring who are all married 

 

Family A has total 4 

family b has total 5

family c has total 5

family d has total 4

 

joint sponsor with over 200k said he will sponsor 2 families. 
 

my dad makes 39k but has 1 LPR under him which he sponsored earlier.

 

when joint sponsor support 2 familes, lets say for family b and c, do i fill only 1 i-864 for from joint sponsor for each family or my dad fill one too?

 

 

 

Total household member i meant. Principal applicant and their derivatives

[MSSF 8]

I will really appreciate if you could please explain.

 

i will fill i-864 for family A from my father, petitioner, and say

previously sponsored 1,

sponsoring now 4

and himself 1. 
total 5.

 

because his income 39k is not enough to file for 5, i will fill another i-864 from joint sponsor?

 

in this i-864, from friend with 200k, 

previously sponsored LPR only 1 (the rest are petitions in process not approved yet)

his own household 5

principal family 4

total 10

 

 

repeat same for all families and do not include them as previously sponsored because they are not LPR yet?

 

in this case, what if one applicant receives interview date first n then get approved LPR before, wouldn’t it be incorrect to say none sponsored before?

 

guide plz 

[Family 4,014]

17 minutes ago, MSSF said:

I will really appreciate if you could please explain.

 

i will fill i-864 for family A from my father, petitioner, and say

previously sponsored 1,

sponsoring now 4

and himself 1. 
total 5.

 

because his income 39k is not enough to file for 5, i will fill another i-864 from joint sponsor?

 

in this i-864, from friend with 200k, 

previously sponsored LPR only 1 (the rest are petitions in process not approved yet)

his own household 5

principal family 4

total 10

 

 

repeat same for all families and do not include them as previously sponsored because they are not LPR yet?

 

in this case, what if one applicant receives interview date first n then get approved LPR before, wouldn’t it be incorrect to say none sponsored before?

 

guide plz 

You are not grasping this clearly. I will attempt 

 

The Petitioner/ Sponsor ( your father) fills out an I-864 for EACH son/daughter. If dad is married , he counts as 2, if single he is 1. If dad sponsored someone other than wife, add one more to dad
 

the Petitioner/Sponsor ‘s I-864

 

A-Family 4 plus Petitioner Sponsor 1 , the total is 5 ( I sent you link see income needed) 

B-Family 5 plus 1 , needs 6 

C-Family 5 plus 1 needs 6

D-Family 4 plus 1 needs 5

 

The Joint Sponsor w $200 K income , starts out with 5 ( even though they are not LPR yet and petitions are pending, wife and children are counted as dependents. So 

 

 

Joint Sponsor does an I-864 for each family 

A-Family 4 plus Joint Sponsor 5 , needs 9

B-Family 5 plus Joint Sponsor 5, needs 10

C-Family 5 plus Joint Sponsor 5, needs 10

D-Family 4 plus Joint Sponsor 5, needs 9

Edited October 24 by Family

[Family 4,014]

57 minutes ago, MSSF said:

Thanks for responding but i am so confused. 
 

my brains is all smushed. 
 

so again, there are 4 kids my dad is sponsoring who are all married 

 

Family A has total 4 

family b has total 5

family c has total 5

family d has total 4

 

joint sponsor with over 200k said he will sponsor 2 families. 
 

my dad makes 39k but has 1 LPR under him which he sponsored earlier.

 

when joint sponsor support 2 familes, lets say for family b and c, do i fill only 1 i-864 for from joint sponsor for each family or my dad fill one too?

 

 

 

Total household member i meant. Principal applicant and their derivatives

Forget household member term ..it confuses the issue as in this context refers to I-864 A , which does NOT apply here. ..
 

[Family 4,014]

Each I-864 refers to a principal immigrant and family members that are coming at the same time

[Dashinka 24,538]

7 hours ago, MSSF said:

I will really appreciate if you could please explain.

 

i will fill i-864 for family A from my father, petitioner, and say

previously sponsored 1,

sponsoring now 4

and himself 1. 
total 5.

 

because his income 39k is not enough to file for 5, i will fill another i-864 from joint sponsor?

 

in this i-864, from friend with 200k, 

previously sponsored LPR only 1 (the rest are petitions in process not approved yet)

his own household 5

principal family 4

total 10

 

 

repeat same for all families and do not include them as previously sponsored because they are not LPR yet?

 

in this case, what if one applicant receives interview date first n then get approved LPR before, wouldn’t it be incorrect to say none sponsored before?

 

guide plz 

LPR status is not reached until the visa holder enters the US, not when the interview is approved and the visa issued.  Now if one family is approved before the others, gets their visas and immediately travels to the US activating their LPR status, then the other I864s should be modified to include them as LPRs sponsored.

 

Good Luck!