Illeagal imigrant busted for murder!

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Oh ffs it's two SEPARATE issues. My views on illegal immigration are very very different than my views on criminal behavior (I would think this would be obvious considering my choice in life partner and the fact that I work with and associate with illegal aliens on a daily basis). I don't support either one HOWEVER I recognize the difference between good Jose who comes here to work and make money and bad Jose (yes they exist) who comes here to rape children and kill people. ANYONE who is a criminal is scum in my book, and the fact that we didn't even HAVE to have them here-their not "ours" so to speak-makes them even worse IMO.

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No I think VJTroll, who stated that, probably read something/heard something that the shooting itself might be linked to MS13.

I heard it from someone I know who lives in Ivy Hill. He said that's what people are 'saying'. A street rumor, IOW.

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Again, you are making assumptions. Obviously this guy is a bad guy. No one is going to dispute that. But it's no ones right to judge him. I don't know his story. No one knows what is going on. Some times its pretty hard to differentiate between "good jose and bad jose" as you put it, until a crime is committed.

VJtroll- interesting. We will have to see what comes of that. Ps- you loving this rain?

Edited August 10, 2007 by thetreble

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BTW - I think the gang angel can't be dismissed. The way this whole thing went down sounds a lot like a gang initiation. MS13 does this sort of thing in LA and Baltimore.

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BTW - I think the gang angel can't be dismissed. The way this whole thing went down sounds a lot like a gang initiation. MS13 does this sort of thing in LA and Baltimore.

I would highly doubt this. All 4 kids were in college and not troubled kids. Two of them were brother and sister. I don't believe it was a gang initiation. They were 4 friends. I am putting my money on a robbery.

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The shooters would have been the one being initiated.

MS13 has targeted black people before for this sort of thing in LA.

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I think everyone on this board has been against granting legal status to those who have committed violent crimes.

crimes that are violent or not.

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The shooters would have been the one being initiated.

MS13 has targeted black people before for this sort of thing in LA.

Ooohhhhh... duh! Now THAT makes sense and I'd put money on that as well.

Edited August 10, 2007 by thetreble

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And Smoke20, I will hand you some binnoculars and you can go to the borders and patrol yourself. If you are going to be an advocate, you might as well actually do something about it rather then sitting around a computer telling people you are the new poster boy for such things.

hey dude i said "meet the new poster boy for supporting immigration raids & deportation."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poster_boy

not that i am the poster boy. keep your support of illegal immigration from distorting what you read. i assure you if you want to attempt to call me out-& make stupid comments directed towards me-we will go straight to the gutter & this thread will be closed.

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That is a very good point. However, those men that go to other countries are not illegal immigrants. They are passport holders often on business trips

The difference is this guy from Peru may have a passport but isn't going to be getting any Visa to come to the US. Especially not if he's the "looking for a better life" type that we assume he was-there's no "get a better life" visa so of course he was here illegally. His status is incidental.

Someone said, in this forum, that he is linked to MS13..

That's my whole point-he came here to commit crimes. I wish they would just keep that in their own country (since there's really no point in wishing that they won't commit crimes).

Heina, you know what they say about wishing? In the story it says he had a fake s.s. #.

yes, i agree, and coming and getting a fake ss# is criminal activity. I dont think he came here just to kill ppl. but he did come here illegally, and he did come here and commit a crime by caring a fake ss#. crime is crime, weather it is having a fake ss# or killing someone, both should be deportable with no future entrance. If your here and you have a fake ssn in my opinion, you came with the intentions of breaking the law. ontop of that he killed ppl, sick man indeed

Edited August 10, 2007 by Ionescu

[thetreble 19]

And Smoke20, I will hand you some binnoculars and you can go to the borders and patrol yourself. If you are going to be an advocate, you might as well actually do something about it rather then sitting around a computer telling people you are the new poster boy for such things.

hey dude i said "meet the new poster boy for supporting immigration raids & deportation."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poster_boy

not that i am the poster boy. keep your support of illegal immigration from distorting what you read. i assure you if you want to attempt to call me out-& make stupid comments directed towards me-we will go straight to the gutter & this thread will be closed.

Uhhh Please refer to your original post, there was NOOO link. So when someone says.."hey meet the new poster boy..etc." I assume you are talking about you since there is no link. I in no way support illegal immigrant. That is a pretty bogus comment. It is people who judge others and assume things that always get themselves into trouble. I called you out and there was a reason for it. Maybe next time you will provide the link in your OP and then YOU won't look so stupid.

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And Smoke20, I will hand you some binnoculars and you can go to the borders and patrol yourself. If you are going to be an advocate, you might as well actually do something about it rather then sitting around a computer telling people you are the new poster boy for such things.

hey dude i said "meet the new poster boy for supporting immigration raids & deportation."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poster_boy

not that i am the poster boy. keep your support of illegal immigration from distorting what you read. i assure you if you want to attempt to call me out-& make stupid comments directed towards me-we will go straight to the gutter & this thread will be closed.

Uhhh Please refer to your original post, there was NOOO link. So when someone says.."hey meet the new poster boy..etc." I assume you are talking about you since there is no link. I in no way support illegal immigrant. That is a pretty bogus comment. It is people who judge others and assume things that always get themselves into trouble. I called you out and there was a reason for it. Maybe next time you will provide the link in your OP and then YOU won't look so stupid.

" I assume you are talking about you since there is no link"thetremble

well since we're in a thread titled "Illeagal imigrant busted for murder!, Out on bail for the rape of 5 year old." i didn't think a link was needed.

"It is people who judge others and assume things that always get themselves into trouble"thetreble

now who looks stupid & is making assumptions? *holds up mirror*

Edited August 10, 2007 by smoke20

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ok i'll play nice. sorry thetreble.

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You just feel dumb for not posting a link and then saying, "why didn't you look at my link and assume it was me?" If you read your OP over again, I think you will see how hard it is to figure out what you are saying or referring to. Admission is the first step.

Holds up mirror? Wow...I'm cute

I can play nice.

Edited August 10, 2007 by thetreble