Vaccine Contraindicated - Doctors Won’t Link Issue in Home Country

[nomororo 1]

Hello!

 

This is my first time posting on here so I apologise if I’m writing this in the incorrect forum. My story is long so I will try to keep it as short as possible.

 

My partner and I wish to move the US from Canada. Around three years ago I was vaccinated once against COVID-19 where I had an adverse reaction. While I have documentation of me visiting hospitals, taking nerve medication, seeing neurologists and even cardiologists, I don’t have a formal diagnosis of my reaction nor do I have any doctor willing to link what I’m experiencing to my vaccine.

 

I’m hoping to move to either NYC or LA, and I’ve tried calling civil surgeons in those areas to see how this might affect my ability to immigrate, but every time I’ve called a receptionist has answered and I’m getting a lot of answers that aren’t very helpful. 

 

This has been causing me severe depression as my one goal in life was to live life abroad. I’ve dealt with a lot of emotional and physical pain surrounding my new disability, and the fact that now I might be punished for this again is driving me to the point of seeing no point in living. 

 

I don’t know what to do at this point. If you look at my health records you can see I used to see the doctor a normal amount of times. After I was vaccinated you can see I’ve visited the doctor over 20 times a year with multiple hospital visits. I even ended up at the hospital in 2022 due to self harm because I became so depressed over this disability (it’s essentially chronic neurological pain as well as permanent heart palpitations which was found to be due to a mitral valve leak) that I no longer wanted to live. 

 

Please can someone help me. I’m desperate for answers for those who might have gone through the same thing. It’s not a moral or religious issue as all I’m looking for is a civil surgeon who checks it off as contraindicated. Keep in mind I don’t have a record of any doctor in Canada linking my issues to the vaccine nor do I have a diagnosis surrounding my chronic nerve pain. I think it is extremely hard to get that here so I think I’m out of luck. I even tried reporting my issue to get an exemption here but they said it didn’t qualify. The only qualifications I believe are myocarditis and even then it’s not always enough.

 

Thank you so much if you’ve read all this. I can barely sleep due to how much trauma this issue has caused me since 2021 and this has only just brought up all my past feelings towards this.

[Boiler 45,441]

Has anything been filed?

 

You both live in Canada nad most people would not go the K1 route.

 

Either way you would interview at the Consulate and need a medical, if you do not complete the requirements then for a K1 you could enter and then go the Civil Surgeon in the US route, get an I 693 and file a waiver whilst seeking to adjust. If you go the marriage route then you file the waiver after the interview in Canada.

[OldUser 6,601]

You can certainly apply for a waiver but without any solid backing showing medical reasons why you can't get the mandated vaccines, it will probably be denied.

 

It's worth trying, though there is unfortunately a substantial delay associated in seeking waiver.

 

Please keep us posted on your journey.

Edited September 27 by OldUser

[nomororo 1]

6 hours ago, Boiler said:

Has anything been filed?

 

You both live in Canada nad most people would not go the K1 route.

 

Either way you would interview at the Consulate and need a medical, if you do not complete the requirements then for a K1 you could enter and then go the Civil Surgeon in the US route, get an I 693 and file a waiver whilst seeking to adjust. If you go the marriage route then you file the waiver after the interview in Canada.

I’m not seeking the waiver as it’s a contraindicated. I’m wondering how to find a doctor who is willing to mark it off for me

5 minutes ago, OldUser said:

You can certainly apply for a waiver but without any solid backing showing medical reasons why you can't get the mandated vaccines, it will probably be denied.

 

It's worth trying, though there is unfortunately a substantial delay associated in seeking waiver.

 

Please keep us posted on your journey.

I’m not looking into the waiver, I just want to find a doctor who can sign contraindications and I’m not sure how

[OldUser 6,601]

9 minutes ago, nomororo said:

I’m not seeking the waiver as it’s a contraindicated. I’m wondering how to find a doctor who is willing to mark it off for me

I’m not looking into the waiver, I just want to find a doctor who can sign contraindications and I’m not sure how

I don't know how without proven medical record.

[Ontarkie 14,213]

~~Moved to What Visa Do I Need, From AOS from K1/K3 P&P- the OP is still in Canada and just now looking into the process.~~

[Ontarkie 14,213]

7 hours ago, Boiler said:

Has anything been filed?

 

You both live in Canada nad most people would not go the K1 route.

 

Either way you would interview at the Consulate and need a medical, if you do not complete the requirements then for a K1 you could enter and then go the Civil Surgeon in the US route, get an I 693 and file a waiver whilst seeking to adjust. If you go the marriage route then you file the waiver after the interview in Canada.

Even a K1 in Canada needs to have all vaccines or they will not release the medical. The OP needs to find a Canadian doctor who will actually speak out about COvid which is going to be very hard in Canada. They are still pushing and punishing those for anything Covid related. 

 

@nomororo Personally I would get all your medical records take them to the Panel physician and give him all the information about what the vaccine did to you. Hopefully he will just mark it as contraindicated. If not you will have to go the waiver route. 

[nomororo 1]

1 minute ago, Ontarkie said:

Even a K1 in Canada needs to have all vaccines or they will not release the medical. The OP needs to find a Canadian doctor who will actually speak out about COvid which is going to be very hard in Canada. They are still pushing and punishing those for anything Covid related. 

 

@nomororo Personally I would get all your medical records take them to the Panel physician and give him all the information about what the vaccine did to you. Hopefully he will just mark it as contraindicated. If not you will have to go the waiver route. 

Do you know if I can see another civil surgeon doctor if I’m having trouble with the first civil surgeon I do choose to see? I’m still in Canada and have no idea how this process works. I don’t think the waiver route will work for me since it’s not a moral or religious reason

[appleblossom 2,434]

12 hours ago, nomororo said:

Hello!

 

This is my first time posting on here so I apologise if I’m writing this in the incorrect forum. My story is long so I will try to keep it as short as possible.

 

My partner and I wish to move the US from Canada. Around three years ago I was vaccinated once against COVID-19 where I had an adverse reaction. While I have documentation of me visiting hospitals, taking nerve medication, seeing neurologists and even cardiologists, I don’t have a formal diagnosis of my reaction nor do I have any doctor willing to link what I’m experiencing to my vaccine.

 

I’m hoping to move to either NYC or LA, and I’ve tried calling civil surgeons in those areas to see how this might affect my ability to immigrate, but every time I’ve called a receptionist has answered and I’m getting a lot of answers that aren’t very helpful. 

 

This has been causing me severe depression as my one goal in life was to live life abroad. I’ve dealt with a lot of emotional and physical pain surrounding my new disability, and the fact that now I might be punished for this again is driving me to the point of seeing no point in living. 

 

I don’t know what to do at this point. If you look at my health records you can see I used to see the doctor a normal amount of times. After I was vaccinated you can see I’ve visited the doctor over 20 times a year with multiple hospital visits. I even ended up at the hospital in 2022 due to self harm because I became so depressed over this disability (it’s essentially chronic neurological pain as well as permanent heart palpitations which was found to be due to a mitral valve leak) that I no longer wanted to live. 

 

Please can someone help me. I’m desperate for answers for those who might have gone through the same thing. It’s not a moral or religious issue as all I’m looking for is a civil surgeon who checks it off as contraindicated. Keep in mind I don’t have a record of any doctor in Canada linking my issues to the vaccine nor do I have a diagnosis surrounding my chronic nerve pain. I think it is extremely hard to get that here so I think I’m out of luck. I even tried reporting my issue to get an exemption here but they said it didn’t qualify. The only qualifications I believe are myocarditis and even then it’s not always enough.

 

Thank you so much if you’ve read all this. I can barely sleep due to how much trauma this issue has caused me since 2021 and this has only just brought up all my past feelings towards this.

 

What visa are you applying for? I just don't see it mentioned in your post, is your partner a US citizen?

[nomororo 1]

Just now, appleblossom said:

 

What visa are you applying for? I just don't see it mentioned in your post, is your partner a US citizen?

He’s a US citizen and we’re hoping to go the K1 route

[OldUser 6,601]

9 minutes ago, nomororo said:

Do you know if I can see another civil surgeon doctor if I’m having trouble with the first civil surgeon I do choose to see? I’m still in Canada and have no idea how this process works. I don’t think the waiver route will work for me since it’s not a moral or religious reason

You can see any civil surgeon who is listed on USCIS website.

[nomororo 1]

1 minute ago, OldUser said:

You can see any civil surgeon who is listed on USCIS website.

So I could technically keep seeing civil surgeons until a doctor is willing to sign off on my contraindication?

[Ontarkie 14,213]

15 minutes ago, nomororo said:

Do you know if I can see another civil surgeon doctor if I’m having trouble with the first civil surgeon I do choose to see? I’m still in Canada and have no idea how this process works. I don’t think the waiver route will work for me since it’s not a moral or religious reason

If a doctor will not mark it off as contraindicated then it is a moral issue. It is your health and you will not allow a vaccine to further harm you. 

[OldUser 6,601]

19 minutes ago, nomororo said:

So I could technically keep seeing civil surgeons until a doctor is willing to sign off on my contraindication?

You can do that, by I bet it's going to cost you quite a bit of money. There's nothing prohibiting you from seeing various Civil Surgeons. They all theoretically operate to meet certain bar set by USCIS, so not sure how much variability you're going to have in their opinions. But I haven't explored this area in depth personally.

[nomororo 1]

54 minutes ago, OldUser said:

You can do that, by I bet it's going to cost you quite a bit of money. There's nothing prohibiting you from seeing various Civil Surgeons. They all theoretically operate to meet certain bar set by USCIS, so not sure how much variability you're going to have in their opinions. But I haven't explored this area in depth personally.

This is what it says on the website:

 

“Identifying Potential Contraindications and Precautions to Vaccination

The civil surgeon should identify any past or present conditions that might be a contraindication to, or precaution for, the administration of a vaccine. A contraindication is a condition that is likely to result in a life-threatening problem if the vaccine is given. A precaution is a condition that might increase the chance of a serious adverse reaction if the vaccine is administered or a condition that might compromise the immune response to the vaccine.

Civil surgeons must be aware of all contraindications and precautions for the vaccines they administer as described in the ACIP immunization schedules'footnotes. The Pink Book's chapter on General Recommendations on Immunization gives a helpful summary of ACIP's contraindications, precautions, and misconceptions about contraindications, and a list of screening questions that civil surgeons can use. This chapter also gives detailed, concise information about vaccinating pregnant women, people with immunosuppression, and general considerations about giving multiple vaccines at one time.

Contraindications and precautions to specific vaccines are available on CDC's ACIP site.

For pregnant women, contraindications and precautions on CDC's Pregnancy and Vaccination site.

In general, civil surgeons should defer vaccines when a precaution or contraindication is present. If the decision is made to defer a vaccine, the "contraindication" reason for a Blanket Waiver (see below) should be documented for the vaccine dose not given, and the specific type of contraindication or precaution should be documented on the Form I-693.”

 

However, the only contraindications on the CDC list linked to the COVID vaccine are allergies and myocarditis. Does this mean any reaction that isn’t the two of those isn’t exempt? It makes no sense to me considering how different every human is