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Hello everyone. I am looking for some answers in regards to marriage to a Muslim woman I am interested in. Here's some background on both of us. I am 39 years old, Muslim, and she is 32. She has two kids(girls 11 and 13) and divorced and I have one kid. She has a job as a French and Arabic teacher in Casablanca and I work for the Division of Emergency Management in Florida. She does speak English as well. Here are my questions: 

 

1. Is it possible for her to bring her daughters over or is that a special process? The father isn't in the picture if that matters. 

 

2. Would the father have to sign off on them leaving Morocco? 

 

3. If the children can come then what would be the income requirements? Would the household size include my son? 

 

4. I see now there are online marriages in the USA and I see that Florida offers this. Would it be easier to marry online here, fly over and consummate the marriage, just marry in Morocco? I would like to file for the CR-1 visa if I decide to marry her. 

 

5. Would multiple trips to see her first be b%etter and then file? 

 

6. Is the mhar different because she's divorced(officially and unofficially)?

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1. Yes, it's possible. I think they would all be on K2s (but I could be wrong). 

 

2. From what I understand, the absent parent still needs to give consent. 

 

3. Do you live with your son? If so, your household size would be including you and 4 dependants. To be safe, you need to hit 125% of the poverty guidelines. You can read exact numbers here: https://citizenpath.com/faq/federal-poverty-guideline

 

4. Most (if not all) here reccomend Utah zoom marriage and then meeting. Or marrying physically together, then filing. 

 

5. Have you only met once, or at all? More demanding embassies require a decent amount of physical time together. 

 

6. I can't advise on that one. I'm sure another VJer can. 😊

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Sounds like there are 5 of you.

 

Is this someone you have met?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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3 hours ago, smilingstone said:

 

Yes, it's possible. I think they would all be on K2s (but I could be wrong). 

OP is talking about marriage and a spousal visa.  The children would not be eligible for a K2.  They would be immediate relatives of a US citizen.

 

 

3 hours ago, smilingstone said:

Do you live with your son? If so, your household size would be including you and 4 dependants.

That doesn't really matter.

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3 hours ago, smilingstone said:

1. Yes, it's possible. I think they would all be on K2s (but I could be wrong). 

 

2. From what I understand, the absent parent still needs to give consent. 

 

3. Do you live with your son? If so, your household size would be including you and 4 dependants. To be safe, you need to hit 125% of the poverty guidelines. You can read exact numbers here: https://citizenpath.com/faq/federal-poverty-guideline

 

4. Most (if not all) here reccomend Utah zoom marriage and then meeting. Or marrying physically together, then filing. 

 

5. Have you only met once, or at all? More demanding embassies require a decent amount of physical time together. 

 

6. I can't advise on that one. I'm sure another VJer can. 😊

3. Yes. My son lives with me sometimes and then with his mom. 

 

5. We haven't met yet. So even I would still have to have a lot of physical time together? What would be a satisfactory amount of trips? 

 

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17 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

OP is talking about marriage and a spousal visa.  The children would not be eligible for a K2.  They would be immediate relatives of a US citizen.

 

 

That doesn't really matter.

So would the permission from the other parent still be required though? 

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11 minutes ago, jaws2003 said:

3. Yes. My son lives with me sometimes and then with his mom. 

 

5. We haven't met yet. So even I would still have to have a lot of physical time together? What would be a satisfactory amount of trips? 

 

 

You can't realistically consider spousal before meeting atleast once. It will be a huge hurdle to overcome in your petition and quite a red flag to USCIS/Consulate. 

 

For reference, we petitioned (for K1) during my second trip. Between filing and my interview, I will have visited 3 times. The more, the better. Not just for evidencing a real relationship, but also for you to see if it will work. Online is very different to IRL. 

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📤USCIS to NVC: 2024-08-28

📤NVC to Embassy: 2024-09-24

📥Embassy Received: 2024-09-30

⚕️Medical2024-11-19

📋K1 Interview2024-11-26 223 days from NOA1

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1 hour ago, jaws2003 said:

5. We haven't met yet.

Big red flag...for practical reasons as well as immigration concerns. Proof of actual time together will be your most important evidence when the time comes.  You are dealing with a difficult consulate which makes that even more important.  I certainly would not marry at this point...or on the first visit.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

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Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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1 hour ago, Boiler said:

You are getting WAY ahead of yourself.

 

At least go over and actually meet her first.

 

Meanwhile google International Child Abduction.

Of course!!! I will meet her first. I just wanted to know what possible hurdles would be ahead if I went over to meet her and everything. Also yes!!! That international child abduction is serious from what I've read. Not trying to get tied up with those issues. 

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43 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

Big red flag...for practical reasons as well as immigration concerns. Proof of actual time together will be your most important evidence when the time comes.  You are dealing with a difficult consulate which makes that even more important.  I certainly would not marry at this point...or on the first visit.

I totally understand. I need to see her in person but like I mentioned before I don't want to open up a big can of worms either and have a lot of big hurdles to cross. 

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1 hour ago, smilingstone said:

 

You can't realistically consider spousal before meeting atleast once. It will be a huge hurdle to overcome in your petition and quite a red flag to USCIS/Consulate. 

 

For reference, we petitioned (for K1) during my second trip. Between filing and my interview, I will have visited 3 times. The more, the better. Not just for evidencing a real relationship, but also for you to see if it will work. Online is very different to IRL. 

I totally agree!!! I want to calm everyone's nerves and say I will meet her in person however many times I can with earned vacation time.  I wanted to get as much information as possible to see what I'm getting myself into. 

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Single Mother with 2 Children?

 

A lot.

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37 minutes ago, jaws2003 said:

and have a lot of big hurdles to cross. 

The US immigration process is loaded with "hoops" to jump through. It is also a lengthy process. The process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  Morocco is a difficult consulate.  You are wise to gather as much info as possible....and Visa Journey is a great place to do that.  I suggest spending as much time together as possible and studying the VJ guides.  I wish you the best of luck.  

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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Aside from general relationship advice, like meeting first, your case is not much different than any other case for CR1, except:

 

1.  Morocco is a difficult embassy.  You will need more proof of genuine relationship than typical

2.  Fiance visas seem to get denied more often than spouse visas.  I recommend getting married and go the spouse visa route.

3.  It helps you are both Muslim.

4.  If things work out and you do get married, remember that you will need separate petitions for everyone:  one for your wife, one for your stepdaughter, one for your other stepdaughter.  3 petitions in total.

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