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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Jordan
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13 hours ago, battambang610 said:

My fiancee got denied for K1 visa.  We engaged two days after I arrived in Cambodia, so the consulate said we engaged too fast. #######.  Consulate handed a one sheet with "x" mark on section 221g.  Not asking for additional documents.  This is unethical.  Please help, What should we do now? I am clueless.

Why is it unethical? Immigration is a privilege, not a right. The CO doesn't think you have a bonafide relationship, I would be suspect as well. Getting engaged two days after you met for the first time in real life, is not normal. As @SalishSea stated, you need to spend a significant of time IRL with your partner before you apply for anything, especially after you were denied once already.


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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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- What is the story for how your cousin had met your fiancee and then introduce her to you? For example, is your cousin married to a Cambodian?   Is your fiancee related to your cousin in any way, such as a sister-in-law of his wife?

-  How old are you and your fiancee?

- How many days did you stay in Cambodia when you met her?

- How many times have you meet her since you got engaged?

- Did your fiancee explain that you chatted for a year prior?

- What other questions did they ask your fiancee?

 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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As others have stated, the consulate evaluates whether your relationship is bona fide (solid, real).

Substantial time spent together in person, over multiple visits, will help to overcome their suspicions.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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Agreed, but now that they have raised suspicion, and every thing that was discussed or during the interview has been recorded and will be re-reviewed at any future interview, the total picture needs looked at and understood to make sure there was nothing else that caught the embassy's attention.

 

If it was really as simple as getting engaged too fast, then spending more time will be the only fix needed. And no need to over analyze this.

 

But playing devils advocate, the embassy is not going to tell you everything that made them suspicious, and any secret background data they pulled on either of them or their cousin, etc.  They will look at the total picture and totality of circumstances starting from when they first met and got engaged. 

Also, applying for a CR-1 does raise the bar for any suspicion they might have.  For a K-1, they are pretty much free to deny it just on their gut feeling.  But for a CR-1 they need more substantial evidience of the relationship being not bonifide to raise the bar to deny a CR-1.  So if there was really nothing suspicious other than getting engaged to early, spending more time and doing a CR-1 will be double/triple strong to being approved next time.  But you really should just spend enough time together, and prove it without needed to do a CR-1.  Often the visa officer is right, whether you know it or not. 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Brazil
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On 9/19/2024 at 9:16 AM, battambang610 said:

My fiancee got denied for K1 visa.  We engaged two days after I arrived in Cambodia, so the consulate said we engaged too fast. #######.  Consulate handed a one sheet with "x" mark on section 221g.  Not asking for additional documents.  This is unethical.  Please help, What should we do now? I am clueless.

How many day did you spend with her for the first time?

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