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Why did the NVC ask for a police certificate for a country the applicant had been in for under 3 months?

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When preparing to help my wife apply for a US visa, I read that she would need a police certificate from every country she had been in for 6 months or more. When we did the DS-260 we listed Malaysia as a country my wife had been in, but she had been there for less than three months so we were very surprised when we are asked to submit a Malaysian police certificate as one of her civil documents. We think it would be enormously difficult to get a Malaysian police certificate so we submitted a typed explanation that my wife had been there for less than three months instead.

 

Will the explanation be enough? Why were we asked for the police certificate to begin with? 

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She is Malaysian?

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On 9/13/2024 at 6:21 AM, American Husband said:

 so we submitted a typed explanation that my wife had been there for less than three months instead.

 

Will the explanation be enough?

Did you support it with any scans of passport with entry / exit stamps to Malaysia?

 

On 9/13/2024 at 6:21 AM, American Husband said:

Why were we asked for the police certificate to begin with? 

Looks like somebody made a mistake. 

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1 hour ago, OldUser said:

Did you support it with any scans of passport with entry / exit stamps to Malaysia?

 

No, but we included a plane ticket showing our date of entry and the marriage certificate from another country right after we left.

 

Someone making a mistake seems strange, because this was part of an automated online system. It seemed to populate the list of police certificates we needed based on the countries she visited.

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4 minutes ago, American Husband said:

No, but we included a plane ticket showing our date of entry

Why was that required?  Sounds like the DS-260 indicates she lives there....or lived there.

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On 9/13/2024 at 8:21 AM, American Husband said:

I read that she would need a police certificate from every country she had been in for 6 months

Where did you read this? 

 

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Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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11 minutes ago, American Husband said:

 

We spent over two months there. Should we not have counted that as a place she lived?

I thought she visited there.  I would not have listed it as a residence.  Even so, a police certificate would not be required even if she lived there less than 12 months.

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

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______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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14 hours ago, Crazy Cat said:

Where did you read this? 

 

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I guess I must've misremembered because of the country of nationality and country of current residence. In any case, 12 months is even longer so that makes it even stranger that a stay under three months would get flagged in their system as something that requires a police certificate. Thanks for reassuring me that I haven't misunderstood the rules.

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14 hours ago, Crazy Cat said:

I thought she visited there.  I would not have listed it as a residence.  Even so, a police certificate would not be required even if she lived there less than 12 months.

I guess it was an ambiguous case because it was a transition period where she didn't have a permanent address. We're both travelers.

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13 hours ago, American Husband said:

I guess it was an ambiguous case because it was a transition period where she didn't have a permanent address. We're both travelers.

What you have done should satisfy NVC.  Your mistake was listing a place you visited, as a place of residence.  

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