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So I want to ask here in this forum: I heard of something called Utah Zoom Wedding (Utah online marriage) and just have a simple question: if I am here and my fiance is abroad and has never visited the US, is Utah Zoom Wedding possible for us, or Utah online marriage doesn't work if my fiance is abroad and never visited the US?

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The issue is you need to correct the naturalization record first and then proceed immigration with fiance or spouse. You will be going through piles of money wasted in application denials.

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You can marry using Utah   Once married you then have to meet to be able to file for a CR1

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USCIS may never give your future spouse any sort of immigration visa if they're not happy about your naturalization / documentation.

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***This question was split from another topic posted by this OP***

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16 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

***This question was split from another topic posted by this OP***

 

Since this topic was split and moved here, let me add some essential info from the other thread.

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- I am a US Citizen
- My fiance does not hold any visa to enter the US, she is abroad. She never visited the US.

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Utah online marriage may not fix issues discussed in this thread:

 

Additionally, the marriage needs to be consumated. E.g. you should either visit spouse in their home country or meet in third country before they can get immigrant visa.

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How'd you get your N400?

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2 hours ago, us-citizen said:

So I want to ask here in this forum: I heard of something called Utah Zoom Wedding (Utah online marriage) and just have a simple question: if I am here and my fiance is abroad and has never visited the US, is Utah Zoom Wedding possible for us, or Utah online marriage doesn't work if my fiance is abroad and never visited the US?

It won’t fix the problem of you needing to obtain a corrected certificate of naturalization prior to filing.

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3 hours ago, OldUser said:

Utah online marriage may not fix issues discussed in this thread:

 

Additionally, the marriage needs to be consumated. E.g. you should either visit spouse in their home country or meet in third country before they can get immigrant visa.

 

Please, I do not understand this answer. I just need to know:
If I am here in the US and my fiance is abroad and has never visited the US, is Utah Zoom Wedding possible for us, or Utah online marriage doesn't work if my fiance is abroad and never visited the US?
That is all. Of course our relationship is consummated. And we've met a few times in the past few months.

I do realize that the marriage is not going to fix the issue discussed in that other thread. It is perfectly clear.
But it seems that application will be denied anyway (since there are real problems: they are discussed there). So I am seriously considering just not responding to that RFE and close that petition that way. But instead just to marry ASAP (and for what seems to be possibly years to come) to fight case after case (CR-1, then IR-1) to bring my wife to this country that way. Whatever it takes. The sooner she becomes my wife the better. But keeping that K-1 petition dragging for them just to deny it anyway after months and months (years?) seems to be just a huge waste of time, money, and everything else.
Sooner or later I will be able to bring my wife into this country, if I apply again and again for her as my wife, bug Senator, Congressman and Assemblymen 's offices, call TV and Radio stations telling this truly crazy story and post on social media. As my wife she would come here sooner or later, but for now I just cannot produce that Dead Person the Immigration is asking me for (described in the other thread)   
 

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You can marry using Utah

 

Once married you then have to meet to be able to file for a CR1

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4 hours ago, us-citizen said:

So I want to ask here in this forum: I heard of something called Utah Zoom Wedding (Utah online marriage) and just have a simple question: if I am here and my fiance is abroad and has never visited the US, is Utah Zoom Wedding possible for us, or Utah online marriage doesn't work if my fiance is abroad and never visited the US?

Yes, even if your fiancee has never been to the USA, and you are in the USA, an Utah online zoom wedding is allowed. it is very easy, cheap, and fast.  But as others have said, you will still need to visit your newly married Wife before you can file for a CR1. 

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Please, I do not understand this answer. I just need to know:
If I am here in the US and my fiance is abroad and has never visited the US, is Utah Zoom Wedding possible for us, or Utah online marriage doesn't work if my fiance is abroad and never visited the US?
That is all. Of course our relationship is consummated. And we've met a few times in the past few months.

You need to meet after marriage takes place. Prior visits do not count for CR1 based on online marriage.

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Maybe third time's a charm...but how did you get your intital N400? Been waiting for this answer since your first post @us-citizen

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1 hour ago, W199 said:

Yes, even if your fiancee has never been to the USA, and you are in the USA, an Utah online zoom wedding is allowed. it is very easy, cheap, and fast.  But as others have said, you will still need to visit your newly married Wife before you can file for a CR1. 

 

Thank you for clarifying this. This is what we should have done a long time ago. We were meeting every 3 months and had no idea we could marry like this and right away go with spouse visa. We would have never done K-1 if we knew we could easily marry (usually to marry in most of the countries there is some waiting period and not even close to fit into a short vacation). 

I am waiting on my attorney's opinion, but it looks like K-1 is a dead end here already since we're in a long haul fighting providing a Dead Person that never existed (details are in the other thread). While we wait for the nonsense to clear we might be easily stepping into the IR-1 territory with the lawyer doing what he can.

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1 minute ago, us-citizen said:


Sorry for ignoring this but why does it matter so much?

 

It relates to your original problem. 

Immigration journey is not: fast, for the faint at heart, easy, cheap, for the impatient nor right away. If more than 50% of this applies to you, best get off the bus.

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36 minutes ago, OldUser said:

You need to meet after marriage takes place. Prior visits do not count for CR1 based on online marriage.


One thing in this battle against Dead Person nonsense that I think is important:
If they deny our CR-1, can we file for another CR-1 or there is no way and we need to wait for IR-1? 

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