Islamabad Embassy: Visa issued for all except one derivative applicant

[Squiggle 0]

Hello everyone

 

Yesterday we learned that our case updated to "Issued" for 3/4 family members on our F4 visa case. (Details about our case below)

 

The derivative applicant that is still "Refused" is the husband of the principal applicant. Using the USTravelDocs helpline, I confirmed that his case is refused for AP. However, we have received no further requests for evidence for his case. 

 

We were however asked to refill DS260s for each applicant on the case a day before the visa got issued. 

 

Today, in fact just now, we saw that our passports got dispatched. Upon further inspection we found out that the refused applicant's passport is still not dispatched. 

 

Please help us. We do not wish for a situation where one of our family members who happens to be a brain tumor patient gets left behind or has to suffer from delays. Any resources such as contacts, information etc. would be greatly appreciated.

 

Details:

F4 Visa

PD: Jan 2005

DQ: March 2018

Interview: Done in 2019

Medical: Done thrice

 

[Boiler 45,426]

There is nothing that can be done, well a Writ of Mandamus maybe depending on the details.

[Crazy Cat 41,755]

@Squiggle,  As you know, extended AP for Pakistani cases is extremely common.  In addition, AP cannot be expedited.  I agree with @Boiler that suing might be the only option....and that doesn't guarantee success.  Please keep us updated. 

[Squiggle 0]

23 minutes ago, Boiler said:

There is nothing that can be done, well a Writ of Mandamus maybe depending on the details.

Hiii, basically we already did a writ of mandamus. We filed the case on 19th June this year if I'm not wrong. Thats the only reason most of our visas got issued despite Islamabad being a horrible embassy.

 

The final case date after they asked for extensions is 20th September, so 2 weeks from now. We're hoping they role out the last visa before that too.

[Crazy Cat 41,755]

3 minutes ago, Squiggle said:

Hiii, basically we already did a writ of mandamus. We filed the case on 19th June this year if I'm not wrong.

Then you are in a waiting game. Nothing else you can do. 

Edited September 6 by Crazy Cat

[Squiggle 0]

23 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

@Squiggle,  As you know, extended AP for Pakistani cases is extremely common.  In addition, AP cannot be expedited.  I agree with @Boiler that suing might be the only option....and that doesn't guarantee success.  Please keep us updated. 

Yup, Islamabad is an absolute nightmare of a consulate. We actually filed a writ of mandamus this June, which is the only reason 3 of us got the visas issued. Would have never reached this stage without the law suit.

[Squiggle 0]

Hi guys. So 3/4 passports were returned with the stamped visas. But for the refused/AP applicant, the passport is still at the embassy. Is this a good sign that indicates his passport will be stamped soon? Do they tend to just return it unstamped otherwise?

[Crazy Cat 41,755]

1 hour ago, Squiggle said:

Hi guys. So 3/4 passports were returned with the stamped visas. But for the refused/AP applicant, the passport is still at the embassy. Is this a good sign that indicates his passport will be stamped soon? Do they tend to just return it unstamped otherwise?

Means he is still in AP. 

[Squiggle 0]

It's been a week since the rest of the family received the stamped visas, but the refused applicant is still refused on CEAC with no change in status and minimal updates. By updates I mean when they open the case file and the CEAC shows a Last Update Date.

 

Wonder what's going on. The embassy is not replying to emails either, despite timely reminders.

 

The one AP/refused passport is still in embassy custody.

[Boiler 45,426]

AP can take months.

[Squiggle 0]

4 minutes ago, Boiler said:

AP can take months.

We have been in AP for years though (DQ in 2018, interview in Dec 2019), just that 3 of us got issued last week and one of us did not. I get that it can take additional months from this point as well but that does not make sense considering the issued visas expire in Feb 2025. 

 

But does USCIS typically do this in family-based IV cases? I.e. Cause families to separate their arrival into the United States from one another (forcing to leave member(s) behind during the initial entry due to lack of visa)

 

If so I would love to learn more about it so if someone could point me to resources that would be greatly appreciated

[Boiler 45,426]

My understanding is that USCIS are not the ones who do detailed AP checks. They are waiting for the results.

 

I know there has been discussions in the past as to what these checks may entail.

 

 

[appleblossom 2,414]

7 hours ago, Squiggle said:

We have been in AP for years though (DQ in 2018, interview in Dec 2019), just that 3 of us got issued last week and one of us did not. I get that it can take additional months from this point as well but that does not make sense considering the issued visas expire in Feb 2025. 

 

But does USCIS typically do this in family-based IV cases? I.e. Cause families to separate their arrival into the United States from one another (forcing to leave member(s) behind during the initial entry due to lack of visa)

 

If so I would love to learn more about it so if someone could point me to resources that would be greatly appreciated

 

They consider each applicant individually, it won't be a consideration for them. Your family members don't have to stay in the US though if they don't want to, as long as they travel to enter before the expiry date, they can then file for re-entry permits if they want to come back and wait with the person still in AP. 

[Squiggle 0]

20 hours ago, appleblossom said:

 

They consider each applicant individually, it won't be a consideration for them. Your family members don't have to stay in the US though if they don't want to, as long as they travel to enter before the expiry date, they can then file for re-entry permits if they want to come back and wait with the person still in AP. 

 

I see. But considering we did a writ of mandamus suit, does that mean they must provide decisions on all our cases before the hearing?

 

Our hearing is on the 20th of September this year so in a few days.

 

 

[appleblossom 2,414]

5 hours ago, Squiggle said:

 

I see. But considering we did a writ of mandamus suit, does that mean they must provide decisions on all our cases before the hearing?

 

Our hearing is on the 20th of September this year so in a few days.

 

 

 

No, they don't have to provide a decision before the hearing.