Birth certificate question

[Jason-Sasha 1]

I was just going through one of my copies of the petition packet I sent last month to Vermont. My Birth certificate was issued by Cumberland County Pennsylvania. I photo copied the front and back and sent that in. What I've just noticed is that my certificate doesn't contain my parents' names. Just all other info. My passport doesn't have 5 years of validity remaining. Only 2.5. I did include copies of my passport anyhow, because it contains my visas for past travel to Russia. Does anyone think this will be an issue? I was approved in 2005 for a CR1 visa using the same birth certificate, but I also included copies of my passport, which then had plenty of valid time left. Any thoughts? Perhaps I should apply for a renewed passport? Just in case I get an RFE?? But i'm planning on using my passport next month to go to Moscow. Dang. Don't know what to think about this. My birth certificate is notorized with a seal from the city. its a legal document. But I've heard rumors that the parents' names are needed on this. Help....please.

Edited August 9, 2007 by Jason-Sasha

[Yodrak 7]

Jason-Sasha,

Your passport doesn't neet to have 5 years of validity remaining. Read the requirement again, more carefully this time.

Yodrak

...... My passport doesn't have 5 years of validity remaining. Only 2.5. ......

[Jaseball 0]

I wouldn't make it an issue until someone officially makes it an issue, which I suspect they won't. They are really only interested in your status as a US citizen. They have our SS number, so they can pull up most of our data right there. Both the passport and the BC show you are a US citizen. There should be no problem.

I'm a naturalized US citizen. All I sent in was my bio and copies of my passport pages.

If you are really still concerned, go on the trip with the old passport, then renew the passport early, but I doubt you need to take any action at all.

[Jason-Sasha 1]

Jason-Sasha,

Your passport doesn't neet to have 5 years of validity remaining. Read the requirement again, more carefully this time.

Yodrak

...... My passport doesn't have 5 years of validity remaining. Only 2.5. ......

Yo, Yodrak, thanks for reply. I just checked again..this is what it says in the guides for a K-1 visa petitioner...

11. Copy of the Birth certificate (front and back) for the US Citizen or a copy of ALL pages of the US Citizen's passport issued with a validity of at least 5 years or a copy of the US Citizen's naturalization certificate (front and back). This is used to establish citizenship.

Seems pretty clear to me. But still not sure because of your reply. Does it possibly mean that it has to at least 5 years since it was first issued?? The wording could be confusing but seems to mean 5 years remaining validity. thoughts??

[YuAndDan 153]

Look carefuly at the issue date and expire date, they mean your passport needs to originally have had a validity more than 5 years, most us citizens are issued passports with validity of 10 years. Not how much time is left on your passport.

Also only one proof of US citizenship is needed so either a complete cover to cover copy of the passport, or birth cert is needed not both.

[Jason-Sasha 1]

I wouldn't make it an issue until someone officially makes it an issue, which I suspect they won't. They are really only interested in your status as a US citizen. They have our SS number, so they can pull up most of our data right there. Both the passport and the BC show you are a US citizen. There should be no problem.

I'm a naturalized US citizen. All I sent in was my bio and copies of my passport pages.

If you are really still concerned, go on the trip with the old passport, then renew the passport early, but I doubt you need to take any action at all.

Thanks for reply, David. will do.

[Jasman0717 9]

You shouldn't have any problems, the BC and passport are to establish citizenship for you. Good luck

[Jason-Sasha 1]

Look carefuly at the issue date and expire date, they mean your passport needs to originally have had a validity more than 5 years, most us citizens are issued passports with validity of 10 years. Not how much time is left on your passport.

Also only one proof of US citizenship is needed so either a complete cover to cover copy of the passport, or birth cert is needed not both.

very good Dan! Makes perfect sense now. Thanks. I'm sure that's what Yodrak was trying to tell me too. Funny how some things that are so obvious can't be seen. can you see how I made that mistake? Feel like a tool!

Now, I sent them the birth certificate, but not all pages of my passport (I was thinking that the certificate would be enough). the only pages I sent were the visa pages and the bio page with photo and signature, just to show they were from that particular passport. (not that it really proves anything anyway). If they dont accept my certificate, any chance of them accepting what I gave from my passport, even though its not every page? Not stressing over this actually, I'd just correct it with an rFE, but simply curious for the sake of typing...

You shouldn't have any problems, the BC and passport are to establish citizenship for you. Good luck

You're right. They should be able to see that I'm a USC.

[Yodrak 7]

Jason-Sasha,

Do you see the word "remaining" in that citation anywhere? You added that word on your own. Learn to read what is written and not add, delete, or otherwise re-word.

Yodrak

Jason-Sasha,

Your passport doesn't neet to have 5 years of validity remaining. Read the requirement again, more carefully this time.

Yodrak

...... My passport doesn't have 5 years of validity remaining. Only 2.5. ......

Yo, Yodrak, thanks for reply. I just checked again..this is what it says in the guides for a K-1 visa petitioner...

11. Copy of the Birth certificate (front and back) for the US Citizen or a copy of ALL pages of the US Citizen's passport issued with a validity of at least 5 years or a copy of the US Citizen's naturalization certificate (front and back). This is used to establish citizenship.

Seems pretty clear to me. But still not sure because of your reply. Does it possibly mean that it has to at least 5 years since it was first issued?? The wording could be confusing but seems to mean 5 years remaining validity. thoughts??

Edited August 9, 2007 by Yodrak

[YuAndDan 153]

Now, I sent them the birth certificate, but not all pages of my passport (I was thinking that the certificate would be enough). the only pages I sent were the visa pages and the bio page with photo and signature, just to show they were from that particular passport. (not that it really proves anything anyway). If they dont accept my certificate, any chance of them accepting what I gave from my passport, even though its not every page? Not stressing over this actually, I'd just correct it with an rFE, but simply curious for the sake of typing...

For K-1 the important pages from passport are the ones with entry/exit stamps for proof of meeting in the past 2 years.

Edited August 9, 2007 by YuAndDan

[Jason-Sasha 1]

Jason-Sasha,

Do you see the word "remaining" in that citation anywhere? You added that word on your own. Learn to read what is written and not add, delete, or otherwise re-word.

Yodrak

Jason-Sasha,

Your passport doesn't neet to have 5 years of validity remaining. Read the requirement again, more carefully this time.

Yodrak

...... My passport doesn't have 5 years of validity remaining. Only 2.5. ......

Yo, Yodrak, thanks for reply. I just checked again..this is what it says in the guides for a K-1 visa petitioner...

11. Copy of the Birth certificate (front and back) for the US Citizen or a copy of ALL pages of the US Citizen's passport issued with a validity of at least 5 years or a copy of the US Citizen's naturalization certificate (front and back). This is used to establish citizenship.

Seems pretty clear to me. But still not sure because of your reply. Does it possibly mean that it has to at least 5 years since it was first issued?? The wording could be confusing but seems to mean 5 years remaining validity. thoughts??

Um...Duh! Of course I added that word on my own. Did you read what I've been writing? I said clearly that I thought they meant remaining valid time on passport. If that word was included do you think I'd be questioning this?? Thanks for the help, but if you help people by talking down at them, you can go help someone else. Everyone here asks questions because they misunderstand something or they generally dont know something. If you dont offer help in a helpful manner, then what are you doing here?? Nuff Said.

Now, I sent them the birth certificate, but not all pages of my passport (I was thinking that the certificate would be enough). the only pages I sent were the visa pages and the bio page with photo and signature, just to show they were from that particular passport. (not that it really proves anything anyway). If they dont accept my certificate, any chance of them accepting what I gave from my passport, even though its not every page? Not stressing over this actually, I'd just correct it with an rFE, but simply curious for the sake of typing...

For K-1 the important pages from passport are the ones with entry/exit stamps for proof of meeting in the past 2 years.

Thanks Dan. I understand now. Peace.