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30 minutes ago, ajxl888 said:

Hi All,

 

I just received this email from the MTL consulate.  Is this any different from what I've been in since being placed in AP?  Or is this the final decision by the embassy?  I'm coming up to the year mark since my interview... Being in AP is one thing but I truly have no idea why I would be denied.  If anyone has any insight it would be appreciated. 

 

Good afternoon,

 

The consular officer, after carefully considering your application and reviewing all available information, determined you have not established that you are eligible for a visa and denied your visa application under INA 221(g).  Additional security screening is being conducted.  Depending on the screening results, a consular officer may reconsider your eligibility for the visa.

 

Thank you for your patience and cooperation.

 

Regards,

 

This isn't a final denial, its AP. They may or may not ask you for a 5535 at this point.

 

edit; I believe you are overstrength for WOM 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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16 minutes ago, ajxl888 said:

Hi All,

 

I just received this email from the MTL consulate.  Is this any different from what I've been in since being placed in AP?  Or is this the final decision by the embassy?  I'm coming up to the year mark since my interview... Being in AP is one thing but I truly have no idea why I would be denied.  If anyone has any insight it would be appreciated. 

 

Good afternoon,

 

The consular officer, after carefully considering your application and reviewing all available information, determined you have not established that you are eligible for a visa and denied your visa application under INA 221(g).  Additional security screening is being conducted.  Depending on the screening results, a consular officer may reconsider your eligibility for the visa.

 

Thank you for your patience and cooperation.

 

Regards,

They couldn't make it any more confusing, even if they tried.  So you’ve been in AP close to a year, and I am going to assume completed the dreaded DS-5535 form.  The MTL Consulate now informs you of a DENIAL (not a REFUSAL) under INA 221(g) with ADDITIONAL security screening being conducted, and that based on outcome a CO may reconsider.  Final but not final.  It would seem you’re in AP, round two :(

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38 minutes ago, ajxl888 said:

Hi All,

 

I just received this email from the MTL consulate.  Is this any different from what I've been in since being placed in AP?  Or is this the final decision by the embassy?  I'm coming up to the year mark since my interview... Being in AP is one thing but I truly have no idea why I would be denied.  If anyone has any insight it would be appreciated. 

 

Good afternoon,

 

The consular officer, after carefully considering your application and reviewing all available information, determined you have not established that you are eligible for a visa and denied your visa application under INA 221(g).  Additional security screening is being conducted.  Depending on the screening results, a consular officer may reconsider your eligibility for the visa.

 

Thank you for your patience and cooperation.

 

Regards,

What is the CEAC status now? 

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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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4 minutes ago, Phil_K_IR1 said:

Wow I've never seen this kind of email personally.

 

221(g) is the standard refusal, but not a final refusal. They're saying you're in AP for security screening (SAO) like most likely everyone here at minimum. 
 

The wording is... weird, but I'm pretty sure they're just saying once the security screening results come in you'd be eligible for the visa (as in the visa officer would "reconsider" your case and adjudicate it again, likely an approval). 
 

Anyone else can chime in though, this is the first time I've seen this wording. 

Thanks.  Yeah, I'm guessing (and hoping) it means we're just continuing the wait... I haven't received/seen anything like this before either, which is why I had a mini panic attack. 

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4 minutes ago, ajxl888 said:

Hmm thanks... yeah, I submitted my responses to DS5535 last year... exactly 11 months ago today, actually!

Wait if you already submitted a DS-5535 than this might be a mistake. Either that or they want to go double or nothing on security vetting. Either way I would Triple Up on your part and a legal attorney ASAP as this is LOOONNNG overdue for you.

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2 minutes ago, Inveigh said:

Wait if you already submitted a DS-5535 than this might be a mistake. Either that or they want to go double or nothing on security vetting. Either way I would Triple Up on your part and a legal attorney ASAP as this is LOOONNNG overdue for you.

Yup lawyers have been informed, so awaiting their response.  We filed for WOM last month. 

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1 minute ago, ajxl888 said:

Yup lawyers have been informed, so awaiting their response.  We filed for WOM last month. 

What is the current CEAC status?

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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All this made me go check our case, saw an unsolicited update for today. 
 

Been a month since the last unsolicited update, or maybe even longer than a month 🤷🏽‍♂️

 

I've learned to not get my hopes up, but I assume this means one of the agencies doing security screening finally gave results back and they just added it in, waiting on however many others.. 

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7 minutes ago, ajxl888 said:

We filed for WOM last month. 

Has there been any movement since filing?  Has the government filed a Motion to Dismiss, or requested/filed for an extension to reply? Thanks

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11 minutes ago, ajxl888 said:

We filed for WOM last month

This is concerning since you received this email after both a DS-5535 and a WOM.  How do they normally respond to a WOM?

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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13 minutes ago, CarmenD said:

Has there been any movement since filing?  Has the government filed a Motion to Dismiss, or requested/filed for an extension to reply? Thanks

They haven't since we're still within the timeframe they have to respond.  And no changes to my case in CEAC.  This email didn't even correspond with a case update, which it usually does when I get those generic email responses from them. 

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1 minute ago, Leo The Great said:

they might update their software and this message may be specific to SAO (DS-5535)

But the use of the word "denied" is weird and concerning.  "Refused" would be more appropriate for a case in AP. 

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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